What is going on with Google Earth? (Related to October 14th)

Originally posted by saturnus1962
So, if it was to happen? The first question would be, would it been made visible thru media? I strongly think government would do everything to keep it from being broadcasted. Not (only) because they would feel threathed, but they would not want the world to believe there is ANYTHING they can not control.

If everyone sees the ships in the skies for 3 days and the news in America ignores it, then they will look incredibly and obviously corrupt. So of course they will show it.

Its a big difference to show something because you have to and because you want to.

Also, the rest of the worlds media is not as bad as America. Not by a long shot. The super powers all have censored TV, but I havent noticed it in Europe.


[edit on 7-10-2008 by Copernicus]

Well I don't know about ships in the sky... but you guys are all so busy with the BC BS that you miss the REAL news in the sky

Well ONE THING happened today

ASTEROID IMPACT: Asteroid 2008 TC3 hit Earth this morning
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Funny no one predicted that...

reply to post by Phage
So..the reason those empty places show up at the poles is because there is picture of those areas. It is a matter of no data. That's it.

But how are we going to know if the North Pole is melting, or if Antarctica is growing in size or shrinking??

With all the hubbub surrounding 'ownership' of the North Pole or the threat of Climate Change.... WHO does not want us to have unfettered access to imagery of the North or South Poles? Ah! I guess they can simply tell us what They think we should know!

A poster earlier provided a link of clouds over the North Pole. But wait! for some reason, you have to register, then wait 14 days for the 'latest' images!

Just what is going on! There's an ugly vortex in the center or Antarctica, and a gigantic black pentagon at the North Pole for the common folk

I think this anomaly hit this forum a couple of days before this post.

There was a good link to this site that explained what was happening.

The down-side to using the polar orbiters is that you tend to have a patch-work (cloud discontinuity) effect owing to temporal mismatches and drastically different viewing angles compared with the geostationary data.

[edit on 7/10/2008 by skibtz]

Originally posted by tracehd1
I'm amazed @ certain people on this thread that appear 2 b soooo Smart that they keep coming back to show us how smart they really r! Some 1 started this thread because they had a curiosity, a question concerning certain images they found on google earth. No questions are stupid....that's the way I was raised. It's stupid not ask for the answer. A couple people here feel their IQ is way above this thread and make it quite clear to the rest of us. I'm a professional Motorcycle rider...I do not put down those that are just learning to ride..etc... everyone's got to start somewhere...at least they're trying..right? If u'r position is that google is stitching pieces together..hence what we see...state it, be nice about it...and go about your highIQ way! Simply...if you feel u'r to smart for the rest of us..why come back to tell us? Let us..with IQ's @80 and lower discuss what we wish to discuss, find answers for...what we wish to find answers for. All the smart people can start a threads on how to stop global warming.... or..how to fix our present economy...

If you did that...I'm sure some us that are 80 and below will learn great things!!! HELL...if you fixed those problems you'd be HERO's... instead, u come here to put us down for asking a question...errrr whose the stupid ones................................... ?

But what would you say to someone who's knowledge of bikes was crap and when you go ahead and explain to them why petrol engines don't like diesel they went ahead and put it in anyway and then kept doing it.. again and again... what would you think, seriously would you think... "What a D1ck"?

some guy found out today I guess

Was just wondering if this should be happening on other satellites also.

Here is a link from another live weather satellite. If this has already been debunked then sorry for the post.

www.fourmilab.ch...

Do not know if this is the same satellite that google uses.

so i guess there was some bug in theyr system? or its quite possible they want to hide something there..so no data...i really hope its the spaceship were "supposed" to see at 14 wasnt ?

Originally posted by star in a jar

But how are we going to know if the North Pole is melting, or if Antarctica is growing in size or shrinking??

Different types of satellite are used - visual images are, of course, no use this time of year when the North Pole in in perpetual darkness (the sun doesn't rise there again until next March). To determine sea ice extent we use microwave data - which is not in the visible wavelength and thus can be used irrespective of sunlight.

Hey Guys.
I found this today that exlains how google's sattelites work...it's pretty easy to understand so maybe this'll help you (who are like me) who had no idea what was going on in the first place.
Still kind of makes the missing data thing seem...odd...I don't know.


"The primary source of GoogleEarth images is, DigitalGlobe. They told Pop Photo how the system works.

At the heart of it all is a satellite in a low orbit, going from one pole to the other. It's different from geostationary communications satellites because it's at 20,000 miles and always above the equator. You can't get a decent shot from that height. And the angle is limiting. For example, you'd always get a shot of the Statue of Liberty's front profile since she faces southeast. You'd never get a straight-down shot. The only alternative is to use a camera inside a satellite that's swooping from pole to pole at a much lower altitude, typically about 300 miles.

Chuck Herring at DigitalGlobe says they have two satellites to choose from, with a third launching next year. But the one they use the most, named QuickBird, makes a polar orbit every 90 minutes.

The camera is unique, not like a DSLR that exposes all the pixels at once. There's no shutter. The camera is designed more along the lines of a flatbed scanner hooked up to a very, very long telephoto lens. As the satellite floats along, the image of the earth in effect moves beneath it. The imaging bar, called a "push broom sensor," covers an area on the ground that's 16.8 km wide (nearly 10 miles). It focuses the image onto a CCD array that is 13 inches wide and contains nearly 30,000 pixels. And the resolution is astounding. Herring says each pixel covers an area on the ground about the size of home plate, which allows you to clearly see a car.

The lens itself is gigantic. Imagine a telephoto lens 30 feet long! That's 8.8 meters. It has a fixed aperture of f/14.7. Kind of slow but they always shoot in the daytime. And of course, only on sunny days! (Who needs close-ups of cloud tops?) Typically they shoot with the sun at an angle to give better definition. They can even make 3-D shots by combining images shot at an angle. The camera can point up to 20 degrees from vertical.

So how do you fit a 30-foot lens inside a satellite? The engineers at DigitalGlobe call it "folded optics": lots of mirrors bouncing the image back and forth. The camera produces an image that's generally rectangular - 16 km wide and 250 km long. That's roughly 10 miles by 155 miles. But remember, that's the size of the image, not the size of the sensor. The sensor is basically just a slit. Theoretically they could shoot a continuous strip around the entire earth. But there's not enough storage space on board for that much data, so they cut it off at 155 miles.

But what about that detailed shot of two guys walking across the bridge in Dresden, Germany? That's where the wizardry of software comes in. Numerous suppliers - both public and private - have images shot from airplanes. The trick, of course, is to piece them together. GPS data makes it all possible. Plus, the people at GoogleEarth have their own proprietary software that knits the images together. They wouldn't go into detail but said it's something like the software that you and I might use to knit together a panoramic image. "

Taken from : www.popphoto.com...

reply to post by dorton


Good find! It would be interesting to know if they use the same satellite, or if it is affliated with Google.

reply to post by CaptainMurphy


That is explaining how the images of Earth's surface are obtained, not the weather (cloud) images. Please see the numerous posts in this thread explaining how the cloud images are obtained.

Finally! All the proof I need to debunk this (not that all of your contributions weren't fantastic...but I don't really understand much science jargon so it didn't help me )

I found this site www.barnabu.co.uk...

this guy has been keeping monthly cloud coverage for the past few years from GE. If you go back to OCT 2007 you WILL see the octagon shape IS there and that this is NOT a new 'phenomenon'.

This just appears to be another case of people seeing what they want to see.

Originally posted by CaptainMurphy
Finally! All the proof I need to debunk this (not that all of your contributions weren't fantastic...but I don't really understand much science jargon so it didn't help me

)

I found this site www.barnabu.co.uk...

this guy has been keeping monthly cloud coverage for the past few years from GE. If you go back to OCT 2007 you WILL see the octagon shape IS there and that this is NOT a new 'phenomenon'.

This just appears to be another case of people seeing what they want to see.

Excellent find Murph!

However, you do realize that there will still be lots that will not believe and still say it is a spaceship! I guess wishful thinking is easier to believe than exactly what is in front of your eyes! :

fourmilab.ch...

I don't think this is part of Google Earth, (It shows the pentagon also... why would 2 sources show the same type of glitch?) Check out the Clouds, IR Clouds, Weather, and other options. Type in 88degrees North or South and 175degrees East. Clouds option, why is there something below and above it? The "Pentagon", when compared with the Clouds to the IR Clouds looks like it's inbetween? Is there something invisible inbetween the two cloud "layers"?

I simply wrote the guy at fourmilab and asked him why the pentagonal shape appears in the picture. Here's his reply:

The weather satellites which provide the data for this global composite image aren't able to observe the polar regions because they're in equatorial orbits and the extreme North and South latitudes are so oblique the images aren't adequate to resolve clouds. So, data for those regions are missing and shown as black. To know what's going on there, you have to go there yourself:

www.fourmilab.ch...

The polygonal shape is due to the process of composition of data from several satellites observing the Earth from different longitudes in geosynchronous orbit.

You will also occasionally see odd-shaped black stripes and patches in other areas of the globe. These are due to data drop-outs from the satellites, where data for that region did not arrive in time for the SSEC at the University of Wisconsin (which is the source for the weather map data used by Earth and Moon Viewer) to prepare the map.

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Wow deja vu all over again.
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Originally posted by tarifa37
reply to post by zorgon

 

Good idea, there is one more obvious reason why there are not 2000 mile long ships cloaked sitting above the earth,"SHADOWS" those ships if real would blot out the sun (cloaked or not).There would be huge shadows on earth where day would become night. Think about how shadows are always much larger than the object that cast them.

actually wrong buddy.. a cloaked ship lets most light pass thru.. therefore a shadow would not be produced..remember.. light is being bent around the object ... to top this off.. the north pole doesnt have much sun anyways.Cloaking technology is real and in our hands.. I heard recently a frodos jacket isnt too far off... amazing stuff.. now imagine this technology in the hands of a race that is far more advanced?..