Indiana Father Kills Sex Offender Who Broke Into Home

reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage

I'll defend the sex offender to some degree. He might very well be the vicitm of complex social ills that are not easily explained which manifested in deviant criminal behavior. I feel bad for the guy to some extent. He probably didn't think he was evil. His family probably didn't think so either.

But at the end of the day, you don't ask the rabid dog why he is rabid, you shoot it. And then you try to root out the cause of the disease springing up in your neighborhood, invent new medicines, etc., so you don't have to keep shooting sick animals.

The attitude is so regional. Home intruders get shot to death every week or two around here and the news always interviews the homeowner and makes him out to be a hero.

If it is a home breakin there is NEVER any question, and they don't get fussy about intent or if the perp was carrying weapons.

This guy was just lucky, the heart condition probably did him in. The perpetrator had a knife and the homeowner apparently did not have any weapons (sheesh I would have beaten the guy half to death with an object if I had been the wife).

Originally posted by mybigunit

Originally posted by Harlequin
wow lots of comments without people READING the damn article

Police did not anticipate any charges against McNally

We read the article but they say they dont "anticipate" which leaves it open for charges. We have seen all to often homeowners get charged when people break in their house. I remember the father and son who beat the hell out of an intruder with bats and they got sued and LOST and had to pay the burgler. Disgusting.

The police have to say it that way I suppose, because they don't know what the D.A. will do for sure. I mean, I don't anticipate being hit by a bus in the near future, but there's always a chance.

Originally posted by earthman4
I think death is too strong a punishment for the crime. I don't think the homeowner should be charged but he should be ashamed. I bet the sex offender got caught taking a leak in an alley. Maybe he was lost. Maybe he was going to rape. His crime was trespassing. You can't deal a death penalty until they commit the crime. I know it seems wrong but it is just.

Homeowner should be hailed a hero. An older man of 64 subdues and incapacitates a younger man in the defense of his daughter.

BS, this pervert was on the loose and got his punishment either by accident or deliberatly.
No real issue here.
Release the guy, drop any charges. Score one for the good guys.
Might set an example for the other freaks wanting to try this.

reply to post by sos37



Good job I'm not a christian because I would have kicked the bastard to death and then felt guilty about it the rest of my life.

Once convicted of raping a child that persons' life should be forfeited. Violent sex offenders; should be ended.

Violent sex offenders have shown consistently that they repeat their crimes, even after extensive prison time. Perhaps if we put all our smarts and resources together we could create a successful rehabilitative process for them. That's not the case. As of present these violent sex offenders repeat repeat and repeat. The only options right now is to put them in prison for life or end their life. Or.... they get out and rape your daughter, with a knife in hand.

Harsh truth.

in the article .. it said that nobody wins.. it was a lose lose situation.. what a load of crap... it was a big win.. for the rest of society .. that this guy is dead.. and will not be a problem from that day forward.. and the guy that got him.. he is a big winner also.. a true hero.. protecting his daughter like a real man.

Originally posted by jackinthebox
I feel bad for the guy to some extent. He probably didn't think he was evil. His family probably didn't think so either.

I feel very bad for that reason too. It's very unfortunate for him.

His perception however does not change the perception of the rest of the World; that he was a doer of evil.

But at the end of the day, you don't ask the rabid dog why he is rabid, you shoot it. And then you try to root out the cause of the disease springing up in your neighborhood, invent new medicines, etc., so you don't have to keep shooting sick animals.

That's a very sound and reasonable approach. I agree with you 100%.

Unfortunately there is no cure to the root cause right now. And it doesn't seem like their is much work being done in this area.

The animals are sick, and the illness is life-long. So we shoot the rabid dog.

It would be wonderful for everyone if we found that cure.

Originally posted by jackinthebox
I feel bad for the guy to some extent. He probably didn't think he was evil. His family probably didn't think so either.

Oh I think he knew what he was doing was VERY evil.

When he was packing up the rope, knife, gloves, mask, and he was getting a woody thinking about what he was going to do to that girl, the look of terror in her eyes, the rope to bind her and make her feel helpless, the knife to scare her into compliance, he ABSOLUTELY knew that he was committing a horrible cruel frightening act that would in all likelihood traumatize her for the rest of her life.

And he like the idea! He got off on the cruelty. Otherwise he could have hired a hooker to "pretend". He sounds pretty evil to me!

I have heard that you can "heal" these people by castrating them, either chemically or physically. Physical is better because they can stop taking their meds and the chemical castration wears off.

reply to post by Sonya610


Sonya I think you are assuming he rationalizes the world like a sane person.

reply to post by Sonya610


You know he is evil, I know he is evil. But even Darth Vader didn't think he was evil. And that might be the most evil part. What drives people to do the things that they do?

Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Sonya I think you are assuming he rationalizes the world like a sane person.

Most of these guys fully realize how demented their acts are. They may not CARE, but they realize it is seriously twisted. Very few are so psychotic they have no clue what they are doing.

reply to post by justsomeboreddude


Not sure if many members were being serious about the castration thing. It would not work.

These predators are not satisfying a normal sex drive by a normal means. It's a twisted pathology. And it's not about intercourse.

Just the same, I would not be adverse to this idea

reply to post by justsomeboreddude


I happen to have known a convicted child-molester, who begged to be given the "repression drug" he had been prescribed, when he could no longer afford it. He was actually in my store crying, literally, that he couldn't get the meds. He reoffended the next day. I have heard that he killed himself in prison.

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
I have heard that you can "heal" these people by castrating them, either chemically or physically. Physical is better because they can stop taking their meds and the chemical castration wears off.

I agree, when people are convicted of sexually driven violent crimes that have been solidly identified with DNA evidence castration sounds horrid but they put themselves in that position. Don't want to be castrated? Then don't rape people.

Originally posted by jackinthebox
reply to post by justsomeboreddude

 

You know he is evil, I know he is evil. But even Darth Vader didn't think he was evil. And that might be the most evil part. What drives people to do the things that they do?

A type of hunger you and I will never comprehend. I know that sounds corny but I think it is true.

[edit on 30-9-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

reply to post by Sonya610


Sure, it depends on the particular sex offender.

The one that rapes children his or her whole life, probably doesn't view their actions as wrong. They probably just feel it's something they are supposed to do, and therefore 'right' for them. This isn't a rational decision, it's them feeding their pathology. It's mental illness.

Originally posted by jackinthebox
What drives people to do the things that they do?

I think acts of sadism (like this one) are a lot different than other forms of evil which can be justified (i.e. political evil is always done protect something/someone). But cruelty for fun is a different sort of evil, they don't bother justifying it (except to possibly say the victims don't matter anyway).