Are we all going to die next Wednesday?

What are you rainman iceman?
How many tootpicks did I just drop on the floor....two seconds...3,596. Judge Judy is coming up don't be late.

Let's see what happens. Poke it with a stick I say.


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reply to post by ice1300


If anything is going to happen, it probably will be 2012.
Mayan calendar ended year 2012.
So.. maybe our will too?
Who knows..
There's 2 possibilities, one is that we will die as they say
and second is that nothing will happen.

Wait and we'll find out guys..

See you in hell...

In regards to the L.H.C, while i don't immediately jump on the "end of the world" bandwagon here, I will say that from all research, and by statements made in quantum physics circles, there is a possibility that a strangelet "can" be created during the collision. The odds are around 1 in a billion, and as others have stated, this is something that happens constantly in the observable universe. However, what we don't know about the observable universe could fill every library from here to Rome.

The thing with playing the odds is this, there is no hard and fast rule that says that a strangelet could be created on the first run or the billionth, so you roll the dice, you take what you get.

On a personal level, I'm on the fence with this one. From a student of quantum theories perspective, I'm excited. This will open up avenues for us as a species that have been heretofore unimagined. I'm looking forward to reading the reports and analysis after the first runs and running the numbers.

On the other hand, there is a part of me who also knows that there are dangers inherent in this ( as with all things really) and while the danger in mathematical terms may be infinitesimal, the real danger in actuality is beyond anything that we as a species could ever hope to contain. The proverbial Pandora's Box.


Sometimes, I do think that we are playing with fire and maybe taking the high jump into the shallow water, but, maybe it's just our time.

Being completely honest though I cannot say that I truely believe that we are going to convert the earth to strange matter, however as a student of science I do not completely dismiss it as it is certainly a possibility,as well as anyone else who claims that it will unequivocally never happen, needs to take a look at the information and note that just because the probabilities are on the extreme low end, does not in no way negate the danger of said probability or the possibility that it could happen sooner or later.


In closing, I have just recently learned about this website, and I have enjoyed it much over the last couple days and would like to say hi to all as this is my first post.

Maybe something Good will happen and since everyone has gone Bad maybe the Good will be their Bad,..

maybe an activist will blow it up or they'll be nuked on Tuesday

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reply to post by KrazyAnubis

There's 2 possibilities, one is that we will die as they say

You make it seem like it's a 50/50 chance of life or death, when really, you have a greater chance of dying from a random meteorite impact. You take more of a risk with your life and put far, far, more faith in your automobile manufacturer/maintenance tech when you pull out of your driveway.

There's far more than just two possible outcomes as well. It's possible that the test can fail and provide nothing conclusive. It's possible that the test will succeed and open up any number of further possible new discoveries. It's possible that it won't give any data other than confirming what we already hypothesize and nothing more. It's possible that a maintenance issue or an attack could stall the tests. etc... etc... and yes, it's even philosophically possible that it could destroy the world. There's just no good reason to believe that it's in any way probable.

And really, what's it matter? You could die at any moment, for any number for far more plausible reasons. Once you're dead, the world dies with you - because everything you know, feel, experience, desire, and everything within the realm of perceptible human experience goes to the grave with you. To YOU, the world has indeed ended, just as it has ended for billions of other people throughout history. You won't even have the time to lament the loss of humanity and those you love.

If you're religious and believe in all that fire and brimstone revelation junk anyhow, then hey.... you get to meet your god all that much faster and don't have to leave anyone behind. Sounds like a win-win situation for you guys.

reply to post by Kuronotenshi


Hey, thanks for the input and welcome too ATS.

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The world will not end.

This sounds like Y2K all over again.

I can see "The Simpsons" parody, they will flick the switch and hear a miniscule "pop".

Cheers, Fox.

I have not read all messages, but here is what I am thinking:

If LHC is dangerous project I think ufos and aliens know that. They probably know what we are thinking because they can measure state of earth. (sorry my poor english).

So if we look LHC we should look also sky above LHC if there is any ufo-activity.

LHC: scientists can say it is safe, but I think black holes and dark matter are basic things in universe but we dont know how those really work.

Anyway, very interesting to see what happens. I hope project is great success and we learn something new. If I remember right LHC is working max speed in couple of years so we must wait.

Are we all going to die next Wednesday?

some of us will, others won't...

some will even be born, just another typical day on earth...

as for 2012... mayans were practical people, i suppose, they may have had calendars that didnt go that far into the future, others may have gone farther... who knows?

they havent been discovered.

many contemporary humans cant grasp the concept of humans existing 10,000 years from now, why should the mayans be any different?

how far ahead do our own calendars go? next year? a decade?

2012 will, too, be another typical year on earth... lets make it a good one, eh?

Black holes are gravitational fields. Subatomic particles have NO gravitational field. To say a microscopic black hole can exist is nothing more than lack of knowledge or understanding, it's physically impossible. These brainiacs talk about dark matter (99% of the universe is not visible), the suns million degree atmoshere (the sun exist in a vaccum of course it's atmosphere is hotter than it's surface), the big bang (matter traveled 15 billion light years in 13 billion years yeah right) and all these other ridiculous announcements to beg for research funds. It's a waste of money, and is nonintelligent gimmicks to fool the masses, and denounce God. In fact Job knew the earth was round 4,000 years before a supposed christian set sail to the new Atlantis to prove religous fanatics are wrong.

Steve
Scalarwars

So then you're spending your last days like this?


Maybe at the last second a Time Traveller will stop it or is that the riddle?, They won't stop it just for the greed to obtain Time Travel.

You should pray but kow your trying to send a TT to GOD

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There are reactions going on in the sun and also even in the Earths atmosphere when cosmic rays hit air molecules that are many orders of magnitude more powerful than anything this device will create, and we are still here. Not to mention the fact that the Earth has been whizzing through space for billions of years and hasn't been eaten up by the theoretical myriads of black holes that occupy empty space. I think its very unlikely that anything will happen.

tbf this is scarin the # outta me

ı ahve been told a lot of dıfferent thıngs that wıll be happenıng on wednesday the only thıng ı am sure about ıs that there swtıchıng on the machıne ı dont ı thınk ıt wıll take some tımes for the atoms the smash together and hey the black holes mıght not grow hopefully!

Source:

Ufoblogger..

CERN: mini black hole every second. (!)

Micro black holes could be problem in long time period. Some Doctor tells that in four years black hole could be so big that earth will be destroyed.

Funny, estimation year is 2012. I think doctor took this year because somebody think this is very very bad year for us..

What gets me is that we know that when a sun collapses it needs to be a certain size to form a stable black hole. It seems that the LHC won't be forming a stable black hole, just a tiny spec that will exist for a fraction of a microsecond.

Just turn it on and take the rather small mathmatical risk and maybe we'll discover something amazing.

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Its not really about how the universe came to be. I dont care about that either. Its the technology that will result from knowing how it works. THAT is what I am excited about. If this really did give us a deeper understanding to how the entire universe works, imagine the boom in technology.

Who knows, maybe we wouldnt even have to be dependent on this rock to survive anymore. We can hope.

reply to post by dodgygeeza

We literally wouldn't even know there was a problem until Earth quakes began, and even then we'd only have minutes to try and figure out what is happening before being swallowed up.

Just a guess, but, what if they have already started testing and the strange weather patterns we are experiencing are a result of those tests. Earthquakes while always present have had tremendous peaks the past few months and there are almost 40 volcanoes now erupting at the same time. The quakes (under sea) may be causing the ice to break away in the North. What if the black hole they create starts small and grows as its fed more matter? In my opinion, they usually have tried it before they tell anyone, so it is an if, but, what IF this is correct?

It is probably a continuation of the "Philadelphia Experiment".

What is it they seek to know that is worth the catastrophes that could result?


[edit on 7-9-2008 by Siren]

this story hit Fox news a few min ago. with the story link from The Daily Mail.

Wow fox way to stay on top of this one!!!!

www.foxnews.com...