Couple in hiding with 2-day-old son to avoid vaccination

Couple in hiding with 2-day-old son to avoid vaccination

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SYDNEY -- A couple have fled their home in Australia and gone into hiding with their two-day-old son to avoid having him forcibly vaccinated against hepatitis B, a report said on Saturday.

The family, including the boy's mother who was diagnosed with hepatitis B several years ago, went on the run after a court ordered them to vaccinate the newborn against the disease that can lead to liver cancer and cirrhosis, according to the Sydney Morning Herald.

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Why would this couple went as far as hiding? are we now living in world that our government can just freely dictate us on what do they want to do with us physically?

There has been a lot of cases that hospitals, medical examination results were not completely accurate. It is not uncommon to have fatal errors.

I understand the worry from the parent side being a parent myself.

I also understand that it maybe a law in some countries to make it mandatory. But I guess, with this case, can't we have our own freewill?

There were several documented cases as well that certain babies died after vaccination. Could you blame the parents for having doubts? It's precious life we are talking about here.

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[edit on 23-8-2008 by searching_for_truth]

I don't blame them. Have you seen what they put in vaccinations?

Check out my thread about this here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Australia insists on vaccinating newborns???!? Wow... I did not know that Creepy. I would not live there.

The mandatory vaccination issue is a double edged sword for me.

I do understand why we have vaccines. Just wiping out polio was worth the pain and risk my mother took when she allowed me to be vaccinated against polio. There were no micro fine needles nor were they disposable.
They were cleaned and used several times. It was the luck of the draw if you got a less painful injection.

I also understand the plight of the parents that fear the vaccines. Remembering my political bent 39 years ago I would probably be in the group of parents that would not want my child vaccinated.

I am pro choice concerning what we can do medically to our bodies and to our children's bodies.

Should the government have the authority to mandate that all children be vaccinated? No, I think not.

I do believe it is probably best to allow vaccinations for our children. But I support the parents that don't want their children vaccinated.

No choice = No freedom

There is no one on this planet that would ever be able to force me to vaccinate my children. In fact, I would be armed and ready to blow them out of the water should they believe they have the authority to SHOW UP. Treason is the right thing to charge anyone with that disempowers democracies. When they come to force things on the kids, that would be the revolution call for me.

I chose to get my children vaccinated. It's probably worth the risk.

However, it should be a parent's right to choose and what authority does a friggin court have to tell a parent what to do with their child?

I'm not entirely sure, but I think that some Kindergartens might be able to request vaccination records before they enrol a child.

I wish I could say that I can't believe it's happening in my country, but I'm not in the least bit surprised.

Originally posted by tezzajw
I chose to get my children vaccinated. It's probably worth the risk.

Given that most vaccinations come with no supporting data that they even work, combined with the fact that the ingredients in vaccines ARE toxic and/or allergenic and WILL do some damage...

Give me the risk of illness over the guarantee of doing an unknown degree of damage to my child.

However, it should be a parent's right to choose and what authority does a friggin court have to tell a parent what to do with their child?

And since I agree with this wholeheartedly, I am not going to flog you for doing what you did to your children.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think that some Kindergartens might be able to request vaccination records before they enrol a child.

The laws vary from place to place, but there are exemptions pretty much everywhere in the US.

I wish I could say that I can't believe it's happening in my country, but I'm not in the least bit surprised.

Not only forced poisoning of our children through vaccination, but they have been lying about fluoride for decades, they are allowing Monsanto, et al, to put "food" out there that is genmod and/or irradiated without labeling it as such, and many other very unAmerican things as well.

We, the people, have no control at all anymore, lest we fight at every opportunity. Do not let them repeal DSHEA - which would put us in compliance with the Codex Alimentarius - and that will be all she wrote if THAT happens.

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The family, including the boy's mother who was diagnosed with hepatitis B several years ago

from your source clear as day
now the parents have this and the chances are this kid will get it aswell
so the parents are risking their childs life for what?
the fact that they dont want him getting the shot

so when the kids older and ( thats an if) gets this disease that his parents have been diagnosed with
his parents can tell him why he wasnt given the shot against it?


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Yups. My brother in law had hepatitis B. He survived. That was 25 years ago. He has five kids. (All are my nephew & my niece of course) None of them were vaccinated. Not even once of any kind. They are very healthy and free of any disease. One of his daughters got dengue but survived. In the hospital where they took her, another victim (Teenager) who had complete vaccination since the day she was born, died of dengue.

Now I am not saying that having vaccination is better that none or vice versa. I myself had never been vaccinated in my life. at my current age, 40, never had any serious or life threathening disease. (I got chicken pox when I was 38)

Bottomline, it is up to the individual or guardians of kids to decide wheter they want to vaccinate or not.

While I also heard a lot of good testimonies about those who had vaccination, still, i can say there is no guarantee.



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Yeah, I don't see the point in vaccines. Diseases like Polio may be common in third world countries but there is no way they can cross our borders!

And being in an iron lung isn't so bad, even if its for a lifetime. See...when you dress them up with balloons and stickers they can look cheery! Add a TV and an X-Box and most kids would be perfectly happy.

MEMPHIS, Tenn. - A woman who spent nearly 60 years of her life in an iron lung after being diagnosed with polio as a child died Wednesday after a power failure shut down the machine that kept her breathing, her family said. Dianne Odell, 61, had been confined to the 7-foot-long machine since she was stricken by polio at 3 years old.

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If it is to protect the child they should do it... I don't agree that it should be forced on them though. I made a choice to have my son vaccinated after research and talking to the doctor, I was concerned about the mercury... the clinic I go to dosen't use mercury shots... they had a pamphlet and I talked to a doctor I trust and a friend who works their.

I dunno... if it's for the public safety I can see it... all I know is when my son enters preschool they will ask for his immunization records. In fact the program he is going through now has his records from birth to now... it's all in the computer. The program is through health and human services, and he gets his care from the clinic, yet health and human services has access to his immunization records.(Which is kinda nice actully...)

We've been in Maidstone for approx 8 years. Not long after we came here a woman told her husband he should go for a flu vaccination. Something they never did before. He died within hours of receiving the flu shot. That freaked the hell out of me because my hubby and I were pondering on if we should start these shots or not. After that incident you can forget it. I know what I shared is not about the vaccination in the article. I just wanted to share it because someone died in town from a flu vaccination he never received before. If it was suddenly manditory for us to receive the flu shots, we would be on the run too. I don't blame the couple. They may have their reasons.

This story doesn't really serve as a good example for opposing the vaccination.

The mother was positive, which means her newborn (if left unvaccinated) is also VERY likely to acquire the disease. Newborns with the disease will also likely have the disease as a serious chronic problem for the remainder of their lives.

I could be more sympathetic to the parent's choice if this were a forced vaccination where otherwise the risk for the disease was very low. But that is not this case.

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We are not talking about one vaccine.

Once the Government gets a hold of that child, they will give it dozens of vaccines before it turns three - and the parents won't be getting it back.

Once in gov't custody the child will have a 1 in Five chance of being molested, as predators gravitate to such positions and always pass the screening procedures.

Welcome to the New World Order - I just delivered my 1763rd child into its clutches on August 12 2008.

We're all screwed. I'm 74 and I've never seen the world this bad. The world almost ended two weeks ago, came closer than ever before.

So like I said, We're screwed.

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huh?

What are you ranting about?

Idiocracy here we come.

If you havent seen the movie I definately would.

This is what happens when you have socialist medicine.
These people will probably be hunted down with an unwarranted espenditure of public resources to make an example out of them.

I believe it should be up to the individual whether he/she/it gets vaccinated.

And I also believe it should be up to the state/insurance provider whether you get medical attention for illnesses/disorders that you voluntarily decided not to get vaccinated for.

Originally posted by CO Vet
And I also believe it should be up to the state/insurance provider whether you get medical attention for illnesses/disorders that you voluntarily decided not to get vaccinated for.

Including the one's your parents decided upon?