Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

Originally posted by buddhasystem

With all due respect, Ukraine has a population of 46 million people and a very large territory to go with it. Hardly it is a small and/or insignificant country.

When I say small, think of it more in "world impact" terms not physical or population size. As in: would the average citizen of a NATO country care if Russia invaded country x.

reply to post by Mainer


The only thing I can reply to that is: I'm glad I'm not in the Ukrain.
You're right tho.

Look at the somewhat reluctant attitude of the European countries. Hell, in my country, this conflict get like a one minute coverage on the news, and that's it. So I started to wonder why that was. The answer was quite simple: gas and oil.

Europe gets it's bulk supply of gas and oil from Russia and Europe like many other countries in the world is highly dependend on those products. So they'll think twice before cutting of those supply lines.

Originally posted by Regenmacher
Lots of Georgia war photos here:
The war in South Ossetia: 89 photos Arkady Babchenko

Thank you for the valuable link. I can see that Tskhinvali was hit quite badly. Given shortage of info in general, and visuals in particular, this is pretty priceless.

Western media fakes photos of Georgian "victims."

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The man pictured is wearing very clean clothes, and the "corpse" has no apparent damage (maybe the wound is on the back?)

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Same "corpse" turned over. No wound on the back, eh?

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The guy from the first picture is dressed up and ready for a new show

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Check out how the corpse is hanging onto the woman's shoulder! Do all corpses do that?

Originally posted by asen_y2k


I think they can muster up 300 tanks to charge at Tbilisi. They already have that many no.s in Georgian territory. They can easily gather them and move towards Tbilisi, can they not?

yea... If they want a blood bath..... It depends on MANY MANY factors.

Just to name a few..

1. Exactly how many troops are defending the city
2. What type of troops
3. What kind of training
4. What type of weapons they have (How much Armor, Anti tank weapons, Artilery etc
5. Are they properly dug in
6. The size and makeup of the attacking force.
Etc etc etc etc..... the list goes on and on..

Not to mention .. There are US troops in the city and Condy Rice is supposedly there also........................................

Originally posted by -Rugged Shark-
reply to post by musselwhite

 

Oh, wasn't that the same site that claimed that the shelling in Gori on tuesday, in which several people died, including journalists was just a car accident?

i have not found the post in the link; however, take a look at this

Whatever Russia says about Sakaashvilli and South-Ossetia, there are no coincidences here: 1. The timing of the start of the conflict perfectly matched the opening of the Beijing Olympics, stifling debate during the crucial initial hours of the fighting. 2. The United States does not have the capacity to intervene because it’s tied up in Iraq and Afghanistan - the Georgia war might even influence the presidential elections. 3. NATO still needed to be taught a lesson over Kosovo. 4. And the European Union… well… internal strife still keeps it powerless. Putin loves to point this out. 5. At the same time, the Russian intervention sends a clear signal to any country seeking to stand up against Russia. Even if the shooting stops today, the political impact of this week’s events will last for years in Russia’s favor. Putin’s Russia, crudely, is likely to dismiss the death of a foreign journalist of a small country not involved in the conflict as mere collateral damage in a violent peace-keeping operation. For us in the Netherlands, let us mourn the death of Stan Storimans, who courageously died on the job he passionately loved, and let us hope the truth will come out in this case.

whitebull.eu...

in order to find out what is really happening one must travel to Georgia

While attempting to analyze this propaganda, I can clearly envisage someone in Moscow taking inspiration from the Balkan Wars, and from what the U.S. government, supported by its conservative media, managed to achieve in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Writing, in advance, a communications strategy that supports the military objectives. Not just twisting the truth, but creating a whole new version of it.

whitebull.eu...

I would not be surprised if at the conclusion of all of this we look at this Georgian situation as a simple enticement to get into a war with the Ukraine.

reply to post by Regenmacher


Thanks for those photos, they show that this is not a game, it's about real people and real places.

reply to post by musselwhite

1. The timing of the start of the conflict perfectly matched the opening of the Beijing Olympics, stifling debate during the crucial initial hours of the fighting.

Proven not to be true, the conflict didn't start on friday the 8th but on thursday the 7th.

I havent read the rest yet, but I guess I can pick out a few others.

reply to post by musselwhite


Sorry, here's the link where they claim that the Gori incident was just a car accident.

Note: be aware, graphic images.

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Russia doesnt get mad, they get even, and that is occurring right now. The best thing to do is threaten them or tell them what to do. Luckily, the criminals in WASHINGTON know better...wait, no they don't.

I dont know about the rest of you but I would like to see what maloy thinks to all this and get his view on the Ukraine.

I v find his post great to read and even if I dont agree with all of them,they make me think and I have to revalue my thoughts,after all thats what this site is all about,Is it not?
Lets hope he comes back to this thread, as it not the same without him.

Originally posted by -Rugged Shark-


Proven not to be true, the conflict didn't start on friday the 8th but on thursday the 7th.

pretty darn close in timing wouldn't you say?

did you ever see the movie "Wag the Dog?"

I totally agree. I hope that he returns aswell

Is this guy 3rd from left
which came from Regenmacher link of pictures

the same guy from here

Just discovered a Reuter's article revealing an e-mail that predicted the Georgia/Russian incident 2 days before it occurred.

You can see it in this thread.

[edit on 14-8-2008 by tyranny22]

Originally posted by tyranny22
Just discovered a Reuter's article revealing an e-mail that predicted the Georgia/Russian incident 2 days before it occurred.

You can see it in this thread.

[edit on 14-8-2008 by tyranny22]

Do you, or anybody else know the name of our State Department official that stated, something to the effect, that it "appeared" Georgia was responsible for the aggression? I remember reading that last Friday or Saturday, but can't recall the link or the person's name...it was, of coarse, a direct contradiction of Rice who commented on the conflict in the same hour/s.

Originally posted by wolfmanjack
HEY LOOK !!!!!!! Its Edward James Olmos !!!!



LMAO the first picture from that link above has a guy in uniform that looks like Olmos.. The guy who plays Adm Adama on battlestar galactica

No, he was the thin-dude in Miami Vice. He had the thin-tie, and the thin-mustache, and the thin-vocal cords...and he liked linguine.

[edit on 14-8-2008 by pluckynoonez]

reply to post by musselwhite


That depends on how much value you add to the timeframe. For some 12 hours isn't alot, but when you're bursting to go to the toilet and can't for the next 12 hours, it's a hell of alot.

Personaly I think that the timeframe with the olympics is irrelivant. Especialy when you look back at what was going on before let's say the 6th of august, you can clearly see that the tention has been building for weeks, if not months.

reply to post by pluckynoonez


Sorry, I know you asked that question before, but I really don't recall that statement. Perhaps someone else might recall it?

Small update all i could find was this:

Unnamed U.S. Diplomat Held Georgia Partially Responsible for War in South Ossetia

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