Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

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Sorry if I missed this already, but BP has re-opened the Azerbaijan-Turkey pipeline.

www.forbes.com...

BAKU, Aug 14 (Reuters) - BP Plc. has resumed gas exports from Azerbaijan to Turkey via Georgia after halting flows two days ago due to a military conflict between Russia and Georgia, BP said on Thursday, confirming reports of Russian agencies.

'The pumping has resumed today,' said a spokeswoman for BP

Originally posted by maloy
reply to post by titorite

 

Or do you only believe one Georgian - Saakashvilli - the one who is busy "sucking off" Bush and Condoleezza Rice (excuse me for being so blunt).

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I think truth is lost in war... But I stopped trusting all the Russian sourced news somewhere around page 180. I have noticed all the Russians have this severe Russian biased... And not that I blame yall. I mean it is your country after all. But I do not think you russians are presenting honest news... but propaganda from your media.

I mean you yourself said this conflict would not last long yada yada, Ya said that if they invaded Gori with intentions of occupation you would not be in support of said actions yada yada... It has nearly been a week now. Russia has taken many a city destroyed the airports and seaports, bombed the pipelines and yet from what I have seen you and other Russians continue to beat the drum that Russia is doing the right thing and that the accusations of war and Georgia are false...

Well OK then. You can say whatever you like but I for one think it is the Russians crying wolf here based on the last 200 pages of events.

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I saw it on TV - I'll try and find a link.

RUSSIAN GENERAL STAFF SAYS CONCERNED BY TYPE OF CARGOES THE U.S. IS DELIVERING TO GEORGIA

(AlertNet)

What could that be about, anyway?

Originally posted by chips
Breaking:

RUSSIAN GENERAL STAFF SAYS CONCERNED BY TYPE OF CARGOES THE U.S. IS DELIVERING TO GEORGIA

(AlertNet)

Hm.

Our worst fears have come true. This is the exact thing we feared when we heard humanitarian aid thru military vehicles were to be delivered to the Georgians!

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Your statements are mainly based on Russian Media. Well this isnt a good source, because every media in Russia is moustly controlled by RF goverment. It doesnt mean that Western Media are more trustable,but be real there are some very confusing info going out of Russia.
For example those 2000 killed people in Thinkvali.
www.svobodanews.ru...
They said that nummbers are diferent.
Well from my point of wiew, RF has bigger economical and geo-political inetrests in S.Osetia than Georgia. And reason to protect S.Osetia or oliberate them of course will raise a questions, because about 60 Years ago the Western world have seen those oliberators under Red Star!

So just to be clear, since I was gone for a few minutes, this is the situation currently, right?

• Georgia and reporters on the ground acting as witnesses say that Russian forces are in Gori, Poti, and Zugdidi.
  
• Explosions were heard near Gori, however Georgia's Interior Ministry says that these were merely Russia detonating unexploded ordinance
  
• Georgia says that Russian forces in and around Gori are only there to aid in the transition of power back to Georgia
  
• Georgia then says that Russia are "destroying" Gori and Poti
  
• Reporters are describing attacks by what are either Russian forces or Ossetia militia in Gori
  
• There are now at least 100 armored vehicles near the center of Zugdidi with Russian flags.
  
• Russia says its forces will be in Georgia for at least two days in order to facilitate an orderly hand over to Georgian authorities
  

...and as usual, we have no way to know which side is telling the truth, other than the fact that Russian forces are present.

Is that where we stand currently?

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Originally posted by asen_y2k

Originally posted by chips
Breaking:

RUSSIAN GENERAL STAFF SAYS CONCERNED BY TYPE OF CARGOES THE U.S. IS DELIVERING TO GEORGIA

(AlertNet)

Hm.

Our worst fears have come true. This is the exact thing we feared when we heard humanitarian aid thru military vehicles were to be delivered to the Georgians!

What exactly were "our," worst fears? That the Russians would try to paint this entire conflict as an event engineered by the US? If so, that was a no-brainer.

If you are insinuating that the US is bringing in weapons under the guise of humanitarian aid, based on what a Russian General says, then I have a bridge and some swampland to sell you.

It's just been picked up on the TV breaking news, too.

Russia says concerned by US cargoes to Georgia

MOSCOW, Aug 14 (Reuters) - Russia's General Staff said on Thursday it was concerned by the type of cargoes the United States was airlifting to Georgia and said Russia's Black Sea fleet would take commands only from the Russian President.

(AlertNet)

- SKY TV (REU): Russia concerned about type of cargo being delivered to Georgia.

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I saw it too, on Sky News, I think.

I can not say if it was Russian or not, the only thing I can say is that he pointed a pistol to the cameraman and apparently (it was not visible, the camera was pointing to the ground) he followed the cameraman. After some seconds I heard a shot and the cameraman stopped.

The idea it gave me was that the shot was to force the cameraman to stop, if it was to shoot him that was no need of so much talk and following him.

Nothing was said about those images during the news piece.

On topic people...

Interesting and active discussion does not need "Off Topic Commentary"

Semper

Other headlines in the region
Armenia releases Azerbaijani hostage www.anspress.com...

Armenians commit arsons in occupied territories of Azerbaijan www.anspress.com...

Export of natural gas through Baku-Tbilisi-Erzurum pipeline restored
www.anspress.com...

Iranian President to visit Turkey today www.anspress.com...

Have a nice day

Just got this from Fox news;
Georgian forces were firing pistols at journalists.
They were sitting with Russian soldiers and a carload of 'Undisciplined' Georgians were
firing at civilians.

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Russia concedes that Russian forces are in Poti.

Colonel-General Anatoly Nogovitsyn, deputy head of Russia's general staff, told a news conference it was legitimate for Russian peacekeepers to be in the Georgian port town of Poti for intelligence operations.

The General Staff had previously denied Russian troops were in Poti.

www.alertnet.org...

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BREAKING - SKY TV/AP - U.S. Official: Russia is 'sabotaging' airfields and other installations in Georgia.



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That seems like it pretty much sums it up, only to add the fact that Russia is now not too comfortable with what our "humanitarian aid" packages look like.

I sincerely hope that we are not sending military equipment into Georgia. Regardless of who is right and who is wrong, we do not need to directly add the US into the geopolitical mess.

Something tells me that they are not going to believe that antibiotics are hidden in the barrels of guns. :shk:

*Not saying there are guns, I was just being sarcastic*

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