Another Reason to be in Iraq? Treasure Hunters

I strated this research originally in our Stargates are Real thread... because of rumors that a "stargate" and other Ancient "tech" may be the real reason we went to Iraq...

The Book Stargate Conspiracy touches on this and so doe this article by Micheal DeSalla
"An Exopolitical Perspective on the Preemptive War against Iraq How Does the Historic ET presence relate to US policy in Iraq?"
Study Paper #2

In searching for anything to do with Iraq and our military in connection with Ancient treasure... I found a wealth of data that was interesting but not all related to "stargates" so figured the best way to gather more 'intel' as it were was to start a new thread on the

LOOTING OF IRAQ

Originally posted by DREAMING MAN
reply to post by undo
Is there "any possibility" of a Gate being located in Iran, & if so where?

I have seen many reports talking about the real reason we went to Iraq... but so far I have not seen one mention of a LOCATION where they are looking for the "stargate" specifically...

However we have a major base near UR and it seems UR is right in the center of Saddam's military area...

And I am seeing this patch around Iraq at all the major sites... The OFFICIALl story is they are protecting sites from looters... and looking for stolen treasures to return to the people of IRAQ

This may well be the case... and some has certainly been returned...

However these are disturbing images





King of the Castle NIPPUR







The Storming of UR



Now convince me again that they are doing this "for the good of the Iraqi people...

Here is that same uniform again...



I found these after I had identified the patch...



The patch belongs to JIACG (Joint Interagency Coordination Group)

It is run by...

Colonel Matthew F. Bogdanos, USMC, was recalled to active duty after September 11 from his position as a New York City prosecutor. He is currently detailed to the National Strategic Gaming Center, Institute for National Strategic Studies at the National Defense University.

He has written a book ... "The Thieves of Baghdad"

Here he is at the Pentagon briefing his team...

"Shadowy networks of individuals can bring great chaos and suffering to our shores....To defeat this threat we must use every tool in our arsenal. -The National Security Strategy of the United States of America."
- Colonel Matthew F. Bogdanos (September 2002)

THIS is the JIACG TEAM before they became "treasure hunters"

Blowing the safe ripped the hinges from the doors. This is the operations room of the Joint Interagency Coordination Group, JIACG for short. This is part of a team of 80 now deployed across the region and drawn from agencies with expertise in counterterrorism, weapons of mass destruction and sanctions busting. 25 are drawn from the US Department of Defense, military intelligence and nuclear, biological and chemical weapons experts. But 55 out of the 80 are non-military, undercover customs investigators and the CIA. 'News Night' understands that British intelligence officers from MI6 are part of the team. We agreed to disguise the identity of some operatives while filming this report. The JIACG intelligence team has never been filmed before. US Central Command gave 'News Night' access partly to prove to the Iraqi people that the coalition is intent on finding evidence against the dictator and those countries which broke sanctions imposed after the last Gulf War. This man, known simply as 'Chief', is a senior member of the team.

15/4/2003 www.abc.net.au...


JIACG Recovers Treasures of Nimrud



This is sad.... Melted into ingots....



Nimrud's crown...



The unmistakable GOLD LUST in the eyes...



Clear view of the JIACG Patch...



Transcript of the briefing

www.defenselink.mil...

I had these photos about a year ago but lost them and it took a long time to find where they were hidden...

One good thing about all this is the DoD takes great photos so I have a huge collection now of Ancient Sumerian, Etc works....

Desecrating History

In the first few days after the end of the "shock and awe" campaign, from April 10-12 2003, Iraq's main museums, libraries and archives were looted and extensively damaged by fire. A Bradley tank and a number of US troops were in the area. At one point a curator from the Iraq Museum staff walked over and asked for assistance but was told by the tank commander (who to give him credit, actually radioed his superiors to request permission) that no orders had been given to help.

At the time, Donald Rumsfeld appeared on our television screens in the US and declared these events a positive sign of the liberation of an oppressed people, "stuff happens" he said.

www.guardian.co.uk...

"Stuff Happens!" - Rumsfeld on looting after fall of Baghdad



The "stuff that happened"...

First, there was the Pentagon's strategic decision to use the main cultural heritage sites of the country as military bases. These sites include Ur, the legendary birthplace of Abraham; Babylon, the famed capital of Mesopotamian antiquity; and Samarra, the Abbasid Islamic imperial city. The digging, bulldozing, filling of sand bags and blast-barricade containers, the building of barracks and digging of trenches into the ancient sites; all this has destroyed thousands of years of archaeological material, stratigraphy and historical data. Walls and standing structures have collapsed as a result of shootings, bombings and helicopter landings.

At the risk of repeating myself, I would like to remind readers that such activities are against both Iraqi cultural heritage law and against international laws of war and occupation. In other words, like human rights abuses, the destruction of a people's cultural heritage and history has elsewhere been regarded as a war crime. To be precise, similar to the case of torture, international law has regarded such activities as war crimes when people or states other than the US have been responsible for them.

www.guardian.co.uk...

Yet the pentagon assigns a crack team of "Super Spooks" to handle it...

JIACG - Joint Interagency Coordination Group

Imagine, if you will, that Stonehenge was taken over as a military barracks that housed thousands of troops and required the digging of the earth in order to provide plumbing and sewage in the middle of the ancient site itself, while trenches were dug around the megaliths and perhaps some of the smaller monoliths were relocated, and used as blast walls to protect the troops at the checkpoint entries to the base. When leading archaeologists came to point out the damage, they were asked: "Are you suggesting that we risk the lives of our troops?" This is the situation today at some of the most important cultural sites of Iraq.

Aerial view of looted sites... the 'craters' are all random dig holes

Aerial Photographs of Looted Sites
Photos by special permission from the Italian Carabinieri
for savingantiquities.org
Copyright Carabinieri T.P.C. Italia.

Zabalam



Umm-al-Aqarib



Tell-Shmid



Tell-Medinah



Sifr



Jokha



Abbas-al-Kurdi

Taking a little trip on Google Earth....

UR and Tahlill Air Base



Its a good thing we have "Smart Bombs" because if we didn't there would be no UR left...




I have some more closeups of the area and its a work in project...

MORE HERE

So if anyone has any more articles please share....

Um, so how exactly is there an "Unmistakeable lust for gold" in their eyes? They look bored to me honestly.

And these pictures aren't what I would call disturbing, it's a bunch of our men in uniform posing in front of ancient ruins.
The YouTube link doesn't work by the way.

Edit: YouTube link was corrected shortly after my posting.

[edit on 5-8-2008 by spec_ops_wannabe]

Hey big guy, you might want to reinvestigate what patch you say those guys are wearing. The clip art pic and the patch they are wearing in the photos don't match. The patch clearly shown in the photos is from Civil Affairs & Psychological Operations. The clip art pic is worn by Army elements of Central Command. You have shown photos from at least four different units. This is all nonsense. Initially the US Military did not put much thought or planning into protecting these treasures. Kicking Saddam's a$$ was the number one priority. Once this oversight was recognized the Pentagon took steps to correct the issue. Sure you had US soldiers disturb and take things they shouldn't have. Those servicemen and women are in complete violation of the UCMJ plus the core values that are taught to them. They do not represent the US Military as a whole. It is pathetic that so many people on here stoop to out and out lies and falsehoods. Why do you choose to spread lies and start controversy. Is it because you are not man enough to put on a uniform yourself? Are you too good to sacrifice of yourself for the betterment of all mankind?

Originally posted by THE-LURKER
Initially the US Military did not put much thought or planning into protecting these treasures. Kicking Saddam's a$$ was the number one priority. Once this oversight was recognized the Pentagon took steps to correct the issue.

They should have thought about this before they invaded a country in my opinion. Please keep in mind we are talking about the oldest civ known to mankind. These sites contain artifacts that are priceless.

It is pathetic that so many people on here stoop to out and out lies and falsehoods. Why do you choose to spread lies and start controversy. Is it because you are not man enough to put on a uniform yourself? Are you too good to sacrifice of yourself for the betterment of all mankind?

So what's your point? This has nothing to do with being man enough to put on a uniform. It's about preserving and respecting ancient human heritage.

Originally posted by Fastwalker81
They should have thought about this before they invaded a country in my opinion. Please keep in mind we are talking about the oldest civ known to mankind. These sites contain artifacts that are priceless.

Just wondering, what exactly was saddahm doing to share this ancient civilization with the rest of the world? looks to me like he was keeping most of it for himself and melting the rest into ingots.

So what's your point? This has nothing to do with being man enough to put on a uniform. It's about preserving and respecting ancient human heritage.

How was this "ancient human heritage" being preserved by the iraquis prior to the war? do you have any examples of this "preservation"?

Yes these artifacts are priceless but, they are just objects. If initial war planning snubbed them in favor of protecting the lives of our servicemen and women then so be it.
As for the uniform comment. There are far too many people out there that will look for anything to use to condem the US military. People who are so called experts that have nothing to truly base their opinions on other than heresay. Put the uniform on and then you can have a true perspective of the life of a soldier. Until then you are not in anyway qualified to judge them.
Saddam ruined a good portion of the ancient city of Babylon. He had new brick put on top of ancient brick in an attempt to rebuild it. The Germans did far more damage to Babylon than any single group. A good portion of the original brick from Babylon is in a museum in Berlin. There isn't as much in Berlin as the Germans had hoped as one of the ships carrying artifacts and brick sank in the Mediteranean.
The US set up bases around these ancient sites to protect them not to loot them. Could they have done things better and differently? Sure, but hindsight is always twenty twenty. The biggest violaters of these sites were the Iraqi's themselves.