Iraqi government expected to have $79 billion surplus.

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assuming we don't also tack on some form of usury.

No I think raping them of all their Oil supplies and selling it at artificially inflated prices is taxing enough.

[Looks like the time has come for the United States to send out their first collection of debt notice to Iraq, then.

Right because Iraq entered into a contract with America that was legally binding and clearly stated Iraq will be held liable for all damages and debts incurred by America's pointless invasion?

Try looking towards your fat cats in Washington who's pockets are lined with money made from the death, suffering and chaos of others:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira

Try looking towards your fat cats in Washington who's pockets are lined with money made from the death, suffering and chaos of others:

You mean THESE profits?

What's so hilariously ironic here is the fact that a country with less than 5 hours of electricity on most days is turning over a profit.

It's just come out of a bloody invasion and is engaged in all out civil warfare and the Iraqis are making MORE money than America.

Whereas the world's most powerful economy (once) and the leader in the free market world, is steaming full speed ahead into recession.

Absolutely hilarious...

What is Iraq doing? Clipping coupons?

Btw, this figure doesn't include one cent of 1 trillion dollar cost spent on the war in Iraq or the 48 billion for reconstruction.

Yes, that's right. A war-torn country without a stable government is making more money than the US...

Goes to show you just how much the Bush Admin have screwed things up.

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira

Btw, this figure doesn't include one cent of 1 trillion dollar cost spent on the war in Iraq or the 48 billion for reconstruction.

You just hit the nail on the head, actually. Iraq is making money because they aren't paying for a damn thing at this point. The good old United States tax payer is footing the bill entirely.

BURDMAN, yes and the stupid American taxpayer can continue to pay the bill as it is they who have supported this illegal war. If I had my way the US and its people should pay trillions back for the damage it has done to Iraq and the millions of Iraqis that have died in the name of corporate greed.

All the US forces in Iraq should be disarmed and made to clean up the mess they created and say they are sorry for all the murder and mayhem that they have inflicted on a nation that did nothing to America or its people.

Originally posted by magicmushroom
All the US forces in Iraq should be disarmed and made to clean up the mess they created and say they are sorry for all the murder and mayhem that they have inflicted on a nation

??????

"Say they are sorry?" After that are you going to put them on time out? What is this, kindergarten? I have no intention of debating the validity of this war with you, that road has been traveled down way too many times by me. Suffice it to say I supported the initial effort to remove Hussein from power and I've financially supported the troops staying there babysitting the Iraqis to make sure they didn't turn right around and fall victim to yet another dictator. I'd sooner spit in their eye than pay them one more cent to rebuild their country which was destroyed due to their own military hiding like frightened women inside urban regions and using civillians as human shields and I'd add another ball of mucous to the other eye before I'd ever expect our troops to say "I'm sorry" for something which they have no business feeling remorseful over.

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Iraq is making money because they aren't paying for a damn thing at this point.

And they should because......?

I didn't realise Hussein signed a contract stating he would be liable for all costs incurred by the US.

Or is that waiting to be "discovered" by some Marines in an outhouse in Baghdad somewhere?

You see generally when you go to war, the opposing side does not pay for your war effort. It's a little bit, shall we say, COUNTER-productive.

I'm not sure what planet you reside on.

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira

You see generally when you go to war, the opposing side does not pay for your war effort. It's a little bit, shall we say, COUNTER-productive.

I'm not sure what planet you reside on.

I reside on Earth, a planet where there used to be such a thing called "the spoils of war." Allow me to explain, as you are clearly unfamilliar with this historical concept. When two countries go to war there is generally a winner and a loser. Historically, the winner claimed the spoils from the war. In other words, they renumerated themselves by claiming whatever resources, property, or holdings the loser possessed to fund the operation.

Somewhere along the line we've tipped things upside down and now the winner of a war apparently becomes the loser's sugar daddy for awhile and the victors actually pay the spoils. Talk about counter productive... fighting a war without the promise of gains coming from said war, don't you think? Saddam's head on a pike wasn't worth $1 trillion... but there's a hell of a lot of oil under Iraq's crust which would pay that bill quite nicely if only we had the stones to have laid claim to it.

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Spoils of War?


Ahhh yes and Bushius Decidius Georgius XXVII of the Senate and the People of Rome triumphantly hoists the Golden Eagle over Baghdad and claims Mesopotamia as yet another Roman province!
Woe, misery, suffering unto the vanquished Mesopotamians! To the victor go the spoils!

Your on the right planet, but the wrong century perhaps...?

now the winner of a war apparently becomes the loser's sugar daddy for awhile and the victors actually pay the spoils.

Bingo. Yahtzee. Uno.

There's no such thing as the spoils of war, because wars these days are not fought to feed an army, to win over the King's wife, or to capture a Relic.

Those days are long gone. Today it's all about posturing and geo-political manoeuvring, the only ones that profit are those at the top who wage wars for own their own personal gain.
Forget WMD's, spreading freedom, democracy; that's a sideshow to keep you happily distracted.

You think Bush said to himself before going in, "Hey gee, I hope we find a treasure chest in Baghdad that makes this whole thing damn worth the trouble."

You have some high opinion of the powers to be I think. Rumsfeld didn't even care if the average US grunt had enough armour to survive on the battlefield.
Cheney was concerned about his stake in Halliburton (big contracts= *cha-ching* as long as Halliburton gets them!)

And for Bush, well who the hell knows why he went into Iraq. Maybe he does hate Muslims and thinks an epic of "War of Civilisations" is upon us.
Maybe he's settling and old score and getting one back for his dad.
Maybe he's just a complete friggin' idiot.
Historically that has been the case after all...

But there are no "spoils" to be had. This wasn't some Middle-Eastern Profiteering Expedition, for the greater good of the US make no mistake about it.

Wars these days are fought purely for personal gratification and gain for those at the very top and all those whom influence them behind the scenes.

but there's a hell of a lot of oil under Iraq's crust which would pay that bill quite nicely if only we had the stones to have laid claim to it.

Wow, from bad to worse...

So you would be okay with the notion of sitting in Iraq for the next 50 years sucking up their oil and turning them into an American "protectorate" of sorts?

Precisely the thinking that got America's fit firmly planted in the quicksand to begin with.

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Well you certainly did an end around on me in this thread. A political attack, how quaint.

I've never been shy here about my position that we went about this war all wrong and went in without the goal of winning anything. I've also never been shy to admit that I believe this war should have started out with bombings several magnitudes greater than the ridiculously misnamed "shock and awe" Rummy touted and that bombing shouldn't have ended until the Iraqi people presented us with either Saddam, his sons, and the leaders of his party or their remains. The instant we set American troops feet on the sand we should have proceeded to the next stage of the plan (which, I remind you was what the fear mongers erroneously screamed was the point of this war to begin with), that next stage being the extraction and recovery of oil from Iraq.

I haven't agreed with us staying in Iraq and rebuilding it at any point during this war. We pussyfooted our way in and dealt with the situation far too sensitively and with far too soft a touch and we have paid for it.

In direct answer to your question, there's an old saying "You break it, you buy it." We broke Iraq and we're paying for it, so yeah... we might as well go ahead and take what we just purchased.