Hacker uncovered UFO secrets

Hacker uncovered UFO secrets

www.realufos.net

In 2002, Gary McKinnon was arrested by the UK's national high-tech crime unit, after being accused of hacking into Nasa and the US military computer networks.

He says he spent two years looking for photographic evidence of alien spacecraft and advanced power technology. The U.S. Bush administration now wants to put him on trial, and if tried there he could face 60 years behind bars.The search for proof of the existence of UFOs landed Gary McKinnon in a world of trouble.

After allegedly hacking into NASA websites -- where he says he found images of what looked like extraterrestrial spaceships -- the 40-year-old Briton faces extradition to the United States from his North London home. If convicted, McKinnon could receive a 70-year prison term and up to $2 million in fines.

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[edit on 8/4/2008 by JacKatMtn]

Too bad no save huh guys?

www.realufos.net
(visit the link for the full news article)

Here is the direct link to the blog article you posted:

www.realufos.net...

The article was created on January 27th 2007, so it hardly constitutes as breaking news, however, if you are interested in finding out more information try and one of the threads listed here:

ATS Search Results for "UFO Hacker"

Or join this thread which is probably the most current discussion about his recent court appeal loss here:

ATS Thread: "Hacker Loses Appeal"



[edit on 4/8/2008 by SilentShadow]

I hope he's right/telling the truth, I believe in UFOs for the most part (though I don't think Roswell was one). I would love for it to be disclosed to the world that UFOs and Aliens are real.

Originally posted by SilentShadow
Here is the direct link to the blog article you posted:

www.realufos.net...

The article was created on January 27th 2007, so it hardly constitutes as breaking news, however, if you are interested in finding out more information try and one of the threads listed here:

ATS Search Results for "UFO Hacker"

Or join this thread which is probably the most current discussion about his recent court appeal loss here:

ATS Thread: "Hacker Loses Appeal"



[edit on 4/8/2008 by SilentShadow]

Thanks a lot! I get lost here with all the material and I new this couldn't possibly be breaking news; and it's all new to me so thanks for the links and further information... peace!

If you had open access to all this secret material wouldn't you perchance consider purchasing a highspeed connection for a few months? I mean, c'mon.

I wonder if it wasn't just planted there and left open in order to keep someone poking around for the purpose of being able to trace the source and prosecute whoever is making the accesses. The 'ol bait and blame trick.

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
If you had open access to all this secret material wouldn't you perchance consider purchasing a highspeed connection for a few months? I mean, c'mon.

I wonder if it wasn't just planted there and left open in order to keep someone poking around for the purpose of being able to trace the source and prosecute whoever is making the accesses. The 'ol bait and blame trick.

My thoughts, exactly. Make a folder named "TOP SECRET UFO STUFF" and then reel the wannabe hacking trolls in. Even if the files were copied without the network knowledge, which I would highly doubt, posting the stuff on the internet can be tracked back to the source of the posting.

This guy was a pretender....

Originally posted by hinky

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
If you had open access to all this secret material wouldn't you perchance consider purchasing a highspeed connection for a few months? I mean, c'mon.

I wonder if it wasn't just planted there and left open in order to keep someone poking around for the purpose of being able to trace the source and prosecute whoever is making the accesses. The 'ol bait and blame trick.

My thoughts, exactly. Make a folder named "TOP SECRET UFO STUFF" and then reel the wannabe hacking trolls in. Even if the files were copied without the network knowledge, which I would highly doubt, posting the stuff on the internet can be tracked back to the source of the posting.

This guy was a pretender....

There is hacks you can't possibly do on a high speed internet, only on a 56k modem.

Originally posted by hinky

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
If you had open access to all this secret material wouldn't you perchance consider purchasing a highspeed connection for a few months? I mean, c'mon.

I wonder if it wasn't just planted there and left open in order to keep someone poking around for the purpose of being able to trace the source and prosecute whoever is making the accesses. The 'ol bait and blame trick.

My thoughts, exactly. Make a folder named "TOP SECRET UFO STUFF" and then reel the wannabe hacking trolls in. Even if the files were copied without the network knowledge, which I would highly doubt, posting the stuff on the internet can be tracked back to the source of the posting.

This guy was a pretender....

If I were a hacker and got into this stuff without so much as a password (this was stated earlier), I'd be suspicious immediately that I'm being led into a trap and would back off.

If I were one with the power of judgement (judge, juror) on the case I would wonder why such important information was left unguarded. I would dismiss it as entrapment. As a juror I'd have made my descision to acquit upon hearing these facts. Perhaps those facts will be supressed in trial. (Will this sort of case see a jury?)

If I were in the agency and this isn't a trap, I'd be pursuing charges against the individuals who committed what I'm guessing is a very serious breach of protocol regarding top-secret information. I don't recall anything about anyone else being charged in regards to the incident; perhaps I'm forgetting-- which is entirely plausible too.

McKinnon is no "hacker" in the way I conceive of it and likely isn't a danger to any properly secured network. The whole point is to spin a huge media story for public consumption that shows a manifest moment of the U.S. government flexing it's muscles especially internationally to send some sort of perverted message.

Originally posted by Mr_Sushkov
There is hacks you can't possibly do on a high speed internet, only on a 56k modem.

Explain. These computers were only accessible by direct dial-up connections and not over the internet? No. The article states unequivocally "NASA websites". What aspect of TCP/IP can only be used from a dial-up connection?

Edit: In any case I guess the events happened in 2001 and 2002 so maybe highspeed wasn't so widely available anyway. Nonetheless there's no excuse for not saving anything. Heck, even raw packets received could have been captured and saved via a proxy.

[edit on 8/4/2008 by EnlightenUp]

If you go to the Project Camelot site, check out the updates for August 3rd & 4th... you will find a link to an online petition to Free Gary McKinnon, and updates as to his legal defense. They also have an interview with Gary McKinnon from 2006 called Hacking the Pentagon, which is very good.

Originally posted by yankeerose
If you go to the Project Camelot site, check out the updates for August 3rd & 4th... you will find a link to an online petition to Free Gary McKinnon, and updates as to his legal defense. They also have an interview with Gary McKinnon from 2006 called Hacking the Pentagon, which is very good.

Funny signature...lol!

The direct link to the online petition.
www.petitiononline.com...

Not that it will do any good but I would advise everyone to sign it. If nothing else, it will show that there are many who are in complete disagreement with the US governments stance on this matter.

I very highly doubt that anything that contains information of UFOs (or anything as damning as photos of craft), would be on a networked computer connected to the outside world. Compartmentalized info is a big thing in the military and government, and *not* putting critical data where just any joe hacker could get to it, is something they would not do. I know even MUCH less critical data when I was in the Army, was kept off of any computer connected to the Internet.

Even so, I think he didn't find anything. Perhaps he was looking for something else entirely (i.e. was being paid to find other info), but tried to use this as a cover, who knows.

And to the OP, there is a big difference in your thread titled "Hacker uncovered UFO secrets" and the article stating "where he says he found images of what looked like ET spaceships". I began reading this thread because I thought you where presenting some evidence that the Gov. was hiding some UFO things that this guy saw. Clearly, he has know idea what he was looking at on there.
If you asked me and you didn't, he should keep his mouth shut with charges like this lol!

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Of course the thread was titled that way--they all are. And they all boil down to the same thing: no evidence.

Funny how that works. Funnier still that the OPs still keep getting their post starred.

reply to post by thrashee


Roger that...

More and more this area is 'fairy land' lol. I will keep tabs here because well one day, well, ya' never know.

I was interested in this when i first heard - extradition laws were significantly altered/bypassed from what i recall to get him to the US.

But as with most of these stories, the more you learn, the shakier it gets - the usual lack of evidence and fundamental issues start to dog the story, like his lack of downloaded evidence or the method he supposedly used to gain access.

*sigh* it was fun while it lasted though

Having had my identity stolen, I do not feel sorry for this hacker. He had better hope his jury does not contain anyone who has had their identity stolen. How do we know he wasn't looking for information to sell, such as social security numbers?
If he found out about NASA and extraterrestrial life, why did he not print it out?

reply to post by LunarLooney1


up until about that time, 2002/2003, the NASA website portal wasn't very secure and if you had any concept of their servers folder hierarchy, you could veiw photos and documents til your eyes bled, a lot of data was not protected or hidden. All it ever took was a photo released by NASA at the time, and just examine the the url. It was easy to back hack to unpublished index pages loaded with stuff. Junior must of tampered/vandal with some data to bring down that kind of wrath!

err, so I'm told!

[edit on 7-8-2008 by eaganthorn]