Some of the best ghost footage ive ever seen...or is it?

Let's see....

He's a film maker, one of those films was a horror story, he's disappeared off YouTube and won't respond to emails, there are obvious flaws in the videos....


And still the debate continues.

I would agree based on the circumstances that the first vid is a fake except for the fact that the rottweiler's eye movement is behind the movement of the other dog. Unless the rottweiler is a 'tard or is functionally blind then his reaction to movement would be identical. If you download the vid and watch their eyes, at times they momentarilly don't even coincide, very strange. The film has no tell tale signs of altering.

Originally posted by thrashee
Let's see....

He's a film maker, one of those films was a horror story, he's disappeared off YouTube and won't respond to emails, there are obvious flaws in the videos....


And still the debate continues.

Its kind of funny isnt it.

I think this thread has become less of a "Is this VIDEO real" thread and more of a " are ghosts real" thread.


whether your are a believer or a skeptic its real hard to convince someone to think the opposite of what they already think.

I personally believe in ghosts. I however do NOT believe in these videos.

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I personally believe in them, too. That's why videos like these really tick me off

I hate to admit it but from experience I would authenticate these vid's. I dislike being a fool and even more give credit to anything untangible, but this guy is either a extremely fine film maker or these are credible videos. Right about now I can get a sense of who is who on this website. Before you discount these as fakes please represent your skepticism with some validation.
I have history and a desire not to validate most of the things I see here but these should be examined by you so called experts

Originally posted by bDaedal4ever
I hate to admit it but from experience I would authenticate these vid's. I dislike being a fool and even more give credit to anything untangible, but this guy is either a extremely fine film maker or these are credible videos. Right about now I can get a sense of who is who on this website. Before you discount these as fakes please represent your skepticism with some validation.
I have history and a desire not to validate most of the things I see here but these should be examined by you so called experts

Not to be rude, but you didnt read the thread did you?

You might want to skim through the thread and see for your self that we did give these videos a fair shake.

Also, look back at page 13 where I posted a link to a website that has other movies by him.He even has cameos in them.

Here, so you dont have to search for it I will provide another link

www.foro-embarazada.com...

I want to point out that I DO believe in ghosts. I just dont believe in these videos.

Once again, mabye skim through the whole thread and see that we did give these videos a fair shake. We provided evidence that these videos are real and we provided evidence that they are fake.

In the end, fake won out.

By the way. Welcome to ATS. I just realized you are new. Im always glad to to see new members. I hope you enjoy the website. I think you will.

peace friend

No insult intended but the comment about winning or losing

In the end, fake won out

is incorrect as nothing here is won or lost but maybe proven or disproven, which does not apply here.
As for skimming through the last 8 or 9 pages I did and read the first 4 or 5 entirely. You can believe what you want but I am not without my merits and as far as being new, it means nothing to me as a perspective.
Thank you for your invitation.



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Originally posted by bDaedal4ever
No insult intended but the comment about winning or losing

In the end, fake won out

is childish as nothing here is won or lost but maybe disproven, which does not apply here.
As for skimming through the last 8 or 9 pages I did and read the first 4 or 5 entirely. You can believe what you want but I am not without my merits and as far as being new, it means nothing to me as a perspective.
Thank you for your invitation.

First , dont get me wrong. I wasnt trying to imply that your being new meant that your perspective was some how lower than mine. Because that is simply not true. Your perspective is just as good as anyone elses. I was merely welcoming you to ATS, as it is the polite thing to do...

I think you will see, If you havent already, that most people on this site will give you a fair shake no matter what.

As far as my saying "fake won out" I could rephrase it if it helps. Let me say it like this , In my opinion there was far more and far better evidence that the videos were faked.

also since you did read the most of the thread and skim through the rest I would like to apologise as I was wrong. My mistake.

Peace friend

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hi im interested in this kind of stuff ghosts ect after some strange things appeared in some pics i have taken inside and outside my house i have posted some pics on my myspace page just to see what other people think of them, the weird thing is my house was built in 1995 with no history of anybody passing away it was built on land that was used as cow fields so im at a loss. in some pics in the house i have been getting orbs so i went outside to see if i could possibly get them as well. so i started asking for them to show and i started taking pics and they did in one pic they look like they are coming out of the ground and ascending into the sky. they dont appear in every pic my wife and i take but once we started getting things we just always started taking pictures it was like they were/are attracted to the camera. then we stopped getting things in our pics for a while and a few days ago i was taking pics of my daughter and there was another, in my mind it was shaped like a skull. we actually think the idea of having something with us in the house is cool, it may sound crazy but any way please check out the pics i posted on my myspace page under
jason marshall zip 37150, im new to myspace so i havent really learned everything about it yet. thanks in advance and please let me know your thoughts.

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Why would you authenticate these videos?

I'll give you my very non-expert reason why I think they are fakes:

1) When the door opens and closes, you can tell that it does not do so in a fluid motion, but rather in a stilted manner. Film proteges have labeled this as a classic sign of stop-motion technique. Furthermore, the door does not have any type of counter-swing motion about it, meaning, if you push a door, you'd expect it to swing away, and then come back just a bit from inertia. In the video, the door choppily swings (hard) to one position and then is dead still.

2) The paper towel. It's just too convenient that this prop is left on a coffee table, and that it's left positioned in such a way where one end is hanging off the table, for me to believe this stunt.

3) The position of the camera itself. The guy just happened to set a camera facing exactly where the activity was going to occur.

4) The radio distortion. This is simply overkill. I do believe in ghosts, and I actually watch Ghost Hunters and believe most of what they experience. Through dozens of shows, nothing they have encountered has been as definitive as this video. That's part of why I in fact believe in the honesty of the show. So it's simply too much for me that paper towels go flying, doors go slamming, random noises behind the camera occur--oh, and the radio flickers in and out of distortion in syncopation.

5) The reaction of the dogs. Although others here claim that the dogs' reactions seemed to prove the authenticity of these videos, I disagree. The dogs were not growling, howling, or backing away. They were watching something (someone) behind the camera. At one point one dog yawns. 'Nuff said.

6) According to other posters, this guy is a film maker. (If that doesn't ring some bells, I don't know what will). Furthermore, one of his projects was a horror piece.

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth[/i

Not to be rude, but you didnt read the thread did you?

You might want to skim through the thread and see for your self that we did give these videos a fair shake.

Also, look back at page 13 where I posted a link to a website that has other movies by him.He even has cameos in them.

Here, so you dont have to search for it I will provide another link

www.foro-embarazada.com...

I want to point out that I DO believe in ghosts. I just dont believe in these videos.

Once again, mabye skim through the whole thread and see that we did give these videos a fair shake. We provided evidence that these videos are real and we provided evidence that they are fake.

In the end, fake won out.

By the way. Welcome to ATS. I just realized you are new. Im always glad to to see new members. I hope you enjoy the website. I think you will.

peace friend

OH man. bDaedal4ever just put me on his/her foe list for the above statement. Now im sad

Ohwell I put him/her on my friend list.

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Now back on topic...

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