Rockeffelers, Rothschilds not on Rich lists

I posted in another thread about this but the Rothschild wealth in present day is a complete myth created by some very paranoid people. You can find an actual history of the wealth of many families at several places online that aren't full of weird shadowy conspiracies that aren't believeable or credible. They've lost a large amount of wealth over the last few decades due to some bad business dealings and nationalization in Europe. They actually stand to lose with the unification of Europe so I'm not sure why they would be behind the one world government as a previous poster has said.
Not that the richest people lists are the end all be all, but if there was one family with trillions of dollars someone with a legitimate journalist background would have reported on it. The Waltons are reported on all the time, and that's a family with a lot of wealth and lot of trusts that the wealth is stored in and it doesn't come close to what some people are accusing the Rothschild's of having.
There is absolutely no evidence that this family is involved in anything more than charitable causes and investment banking on a medium scale. They aren't even the largest firm anymore (I believe the family has even split and broken in to a couple of companies) and are controlled partially by a chinese company. Sheesh, DENY IGNORANCE people, don't embrace it anymore.

dear white chapel,

You really are ignorant do you really think a family with an estimated weath of 500-600 trillion dollars yes trillion can not avoid making the news LOL.

you need to go be with your animals .......you freak

you give the example of the waltons being so RICH
they are nothing thats right nothing compared to the rothchilds the rothchilds control governments do you think govenments dont have more than the waltons LOL you are ignorant wake up!!

Originally posted by White Chapel
They actually stand to lose with the unification of Europe...

Why?

... but if there was one family with trillions of dollars someone with a legitimate journalist background would have reported on it.

You mean something like this:

the ability of the family which has founded one of the world's largest private banking dynasties to sustain their secretive fortune, which industry insiders count not in billions but in trillions, and keep it within the family.

source
Paul Vallely is a regular contributor to The Independent (UK) - a legitimate journalist. (it's not just the American Free Press (new Spotlight) reporting it.)

There is absolutely no evidence that this family is involved in anything more than charitable causes and investment banking on a medium scale.

Are Rio Tinto and DeBeers (amongst others) charitable causes? The winery?

(I believe the family has even split and broken in to a couple of companies)

No, the French family and the English family have merged their holdings. (after the retirement of Sir Evelyn de Rothschild , who is now heavily invested in India. He also has an investment in The Economist.)


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These people are also part of the religious conspiracy that goes back thousands of years, they control our beliefs with the news and TV. Read the book "old world secrets the omega project codes", it will blow your mind!!!

Rockefeller's and Rothschild's are not on the list because, they actually own all of the money on the earth that those richest people think they own.
We are just forced to lease the money from them, with interest of course.
And of course all goods we think we own, have a temporary value put on them as well by the money itself.So they own them to.

Originally posted by White Chapel
I posted in another thread about this but the Rothschild wealth in present day is a complete myth created by some very paranoid people. You can find an actual history of the wealth of many families at several places online that aren't full of weird shadowy conspiracies that aren't believeable or credible. They've lost a large amount of wealth over the last few decades due to some bad business dealings and nationalization in Europe. They actually stand to lose with the unification of Europe so I'm not sure why they would be behind the one world government as a previous poster has said.
Not that the richest people lists are the end all be all, but if there was one family with trillions of dollars someone with a legitimate journalist background would have reported on it. The Waltons are reported on all the time, and that's a family with a lot of wealth and lot of trusts that the wealth is stored in and it doesn't come close to what some people are accusing the Rothschild's of having.
There is absolutely no evidence that this family is involved in anything more than charitable causes and investment banking on a medium scale. They aren't even the largest firm anymore (I believe the family has even split and broken in to a couple of companies) and are controlled partially by a chinese company. Sheesh, DENY IGNORANCE people, don't embrace it anymore.

You have got to be joking, these people print our money. You almost had me going. I thought you were a bit slow at first, good one!!!

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I don't see what is wrong on blaming them and whoever else is behind the money system for the world poverty.

They could easily fix it if they wanted , yet they will not ... and people keep clinging to this ilusion of division to give their excuses , of course they cannot yet see through the ilusion unfortunately.

If you gave 63k to a poor person , it would not last simply because of the crap system we have.

Our world is very badly managed , and it seems it is on purpose. For the moment there is still "1st world countries" and "3rd world countries" , but it seems the WHOLE world will be turned in a much worse place to live for EVERYONE soon. the world "economy" gets worse and worse by the day...

reply to post by AgentOrangeJuice

Actually David's on the list. (the OP is kind of dated, so maybe he wasn't at the time)

Here's David Rockefeller at 2.9 billion.

As to why he is listed at a mere 3 billion dollar, take a look at Norman Dodd's interview on the Reece Commission investigation of tax-exempt foundation.

video.google.com...

Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
reply to post by AgentOrangeJuice

 

Actually David's on the list. (the OP is kind of dated, so maybe he wasn't at the time)

Here's David Rockefeller at 2.9 billion.

As to why he is listed at a mere 3 billion dollar, take a look at Norman Dodd's interview on the Reece Commission investigation of tax-exempt foundation.

video.google.com...

Yeah that's 2.9 billion personal spending fun money.
Mostly spent on poisoning baby's and having gold teeth removed from dead people.
That isn't the wealth of the corporations and company's that make up the family empire.
That is infinite because they own paper currency we just rent it off them.

well good points... however, we use the terms rich and poor... what if there is a class of people who are beyond rich... sort of Monach's if you will. money has no value only there will...

The rich lists are comprised of people whose wealth can be accurately estimated from publically available info. There's people who don't fall into that category due to the secretive nature of their fortunes.

My late grandfather was a corporate lawyer, who acted for banks and big business, and once said that ownership of all the world's large companies could be traced back to a handful of people.

hello everyone
the reason they dont come into the limelight is that they control the media through their cronies and prefer to stay low-profile.
they are really satanists who are fooling the jews of the world that they are acting for their collective benefit.
when they believe the time is right, they will reveal their true colours.
pls google "the rothschild bloodline" its quite long but very interesting.
thanks

They are not on the list because they probably had a hand in
creating the list. They after all control the media.

There is a way to end it. There is a way that, with a few small actions, rich and poor, upper and lower class, and the corrupted economy can end.

All we have to do is stop supporting the system.

On December 1, 1955 in Alabama Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat for a white passenger. This sparked the Montgomery Bus Boycott. This single act of defiance encouraged more and more people to protest, make their voice heard and, as a result, civil rights changed.

You are here, on this site because you acknowledge the vast majority of wealth and therefore power is in the hands of a small few. These people have made tremendous efforts to restrict your rights, and have done so. They now hold the power to walk into your house at any point, seize all you own, and lock you up for as long as they wish to label you a terrorist.
That is the beauty of a terrorist, they have no race, no origin, no status, they are any and all people that oppose a government and its agenda. And if they can't get to you that way, you can be sure that an "accident" will keep you quiet.

The denouncing of the monetary system could not be easier, all that is needed is for the system to stop working. And that is not such a big task. If a majority of people withdrew all their money, cashed out all their saving, sold all there stock. The system would collapse, there would not be enough liquidity in the market for it to sustain itself. Banks who have the power to lend and spend 10 times what they actually have deposited, would fall. For every Dollar you take, they lose 10.

It is easy to assume that what would follow would be chaos, but that is also down to us. It is technology, not politics, not money, not religion that has improved everyone's life, not just a few. Technology is also much further ahead than you may think, we have the ability to cease our dependency from oil, gas and hydrogen TODAY. But these commodities can be controlled by the few at the top and so it will not happen until they want it to. Solar, wind, tide, wave and geothermal, can give us all the power we could ever need with no harmful effects to our planet.

With no money there would be little work, but this is an advantage, not a problem. The jobs that would exist would be those of technology, science, education, healthcare and planning. The rest of us, should we not deem those areas suitable, would be free, really free to live our life. To care for our family, to engage in sport, to create art, make music and have fun.

These ideas are not new, they are just limited to those who seek them and choose not to follow blindly aka have "faith" in there religion, in there country, in there politics.

I beg you, take action, inform others of the problems to which they stay ignorant.
Visit www.thezeitgeistmovement.com and join the movement.
Visit www.thevenusproject.com... and see how things could be, if you want them to be.

"be the change you want to see in this world"
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

3) Rothschild ordered that there was never to be "any public inventory made by the courts, or otherwise, of my estate ... Also I forbid any legal action and any publication of the value of the inheritance."


www.liveleak.com...

Originally posted by queenkelley
3) Rothschild ordered that there was never to be "any public inventory made by the courts, or otherwise, of my estate ... Also I forbid any legal action and any publication of the value of the inheritance."


www.liveleak.com...

I remember reading that a while back, along with their favoring marriage to family members to keep the bloodline pure ( ???). But it was Amsel Rotschild that quoted "Give me control of a nations money, and I care not who makes the laws". I also read months back in an article that said the Rotschilds own at least 2/5 of the planet, but I'm guessing it's a 50/50 split with the Rockerfellers, Morgans, and most of the tards in Goldman Sachs. All the puny billionnaires are sock puppets for the 'Grand Treasurer".

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
the rothschilds ahve enough money to buy the chinesse, american, european armed forces off the just through pure bribery paying thm more money than there whole country earns. money = power that why they arent so famouse becuase they dont want to be considering they pretty much control the price of gold, and in WW2 the funded both german and allied forces purly so they could charge up the intrest rate of what the countrys owed them very cleaver especail consider they where the ones sell both the contrys metal to build tanks and boats and guns and other items also the bank of england still have not payed them off from WW2 yet. Also the rothschilds are also very carefully who they marry by what i have been reading becuase i think they are the richest and most powerfull people in the world and to maintian that status you have to be extremly carefull like that. so they might have enough money to give every man woman child 63,000 dollars each in the whole world which would be enough to cure famin and poverty and some sufering int the world but alot of people dont understand why they dont do this. simply becuase it will create an imbalance perfect canot be perfect if evreything else is perfect becuase then it would be normal like happy cant be happy without sad once agian it creates normal. anyway i have finished going on about crap see ya P.S sorry for the crap spelling

If everybody in the world would have 63 000 dollar, the dollar would be worth very very few.

I would not want to be a Rotschild...maybe rich...but they are genetic mutants from a history of inbreeding. Look at some of the younger ones (and older)...yuck...ugly, ugly humans.

Amazing how they own the media,a nd have you seen some of there homes, amazing. Amazed how they get no attention at all, with all that wealth.

But owning the media, they keep themselfs out of it.

I just wonder how they really started, and what did the first ones know and when. But of course hollywood will ridicule those things, and people just say blair runs uk, and now cameron, lol.

reply to post by The Fifth Column


Yeah i think the phrase is (Conspicuous by their Absence).

The really rich pay for their ambiguity and obscurity.

Only now, with computers and indexes, we are able to calculate how much wealth there should be, and how much is missing, it will be a short hop from there to finally connect the dots to names.

As Sherlock Holmes would say "The games afoot Watson!".

It will be interesting to see these people convert to transparent operations or even to see whether they are up to the task.

Cosmic...