I am being WATCHED...is anyone else?

reply to post by iamcanadian2


Again, you've failed to understand my point and have chosen to promote yourself as an activists instead.

The fact you are over zealous and trying to recruit us to fight your little war is very puerile. In fact, I doubt you're an activist because you are willing to post your full name on the internet.

Agent provocateur madam?

Originally posted by infinite
reply to post by iamcanadian2

 

Again, you've failed to understand my point and have chosen to promote yourself as an activists instead.

Well if you think I have failed to understand your point, then I say you have not explained yourself in the most articulate way.

The fact you are over zealous and trying to recruit us to fight your little war is very puerile. In fact, I doubt you're an activist because you are willing to post your full name on the internet.

I am not trying to recruit anyone, I am trying to get the message out there that organized stalking is a very real and growing fast...Where in any of my post have you seen an indication that I am recruiting?
You asked me why I use my real name and it is because I am an activist and not hiding anything about what is happening to me and others. Since I became an activist for the exposure of this crap, the many intrusions into my house have stopped and the attempts to run me off the road have stopped. So I would say that because I have attracted a lot of attention to myself and the cause, I feel much safer in my city than I did before.
I must admit that I am passionate about spreading the word and trying to educate people....the information/links (that you are allergic to) I post was not just for your eyes sir and I hoped that others would take the opportunity to read it and get a better understanding of this.


MR Illuminati...Are you at a loss for words and the only thing that you could come up with was to throw at me that I am a provocateur....hmmm

Thanks for your responce. I guess you don't want the stalking stats. As most of us know stats can be skewed and I know that the stats I have are much lower than the actual number of people who experience organized/multiple stalkers. I have complained twice to the police about multiple stalking and when I did a Freedom of Information search on myself, there was no mention of the multiple stalkers or even a single stalker. I would have to surmise that most complaint of multiple stalking go unrecorded on the police records. Stats are boring to look at anyways.

Have a nice day Mr Illuminati

Debbie Newhook

[edit on 24-7-2008 by iamcanadian2]

reply to post by iamcanadian2


I have yet to figure out how to quote and respond...Sorry about my entire post above in quotes.

Hey ya'll, I've skimmed through about 8 pages and the last few were just a bunch of bickering back and forth. Maybe you guys should take it to U2U, you know?

Anyway, I'm wanting to see the pics of the vans parked out front. Are they posted yet?

Thanks!

Thanks to the OP for the thread... I know where you are coming from... I've been watched for about a year now. I am a bit like you in the traveling the net and sites that are listed by the government... but I also have a hacking background that goes back to when I was caught as a teen. I still frequent hacking and exploiting sites and am very verbal about the government. I belong to many anti-government and free speech groups. My most recent incidents were pretty bad. It was just before Christmas and I was buying ammunition online by the case (that's 1000 rounds at a time). Then I bought 3 high powered rifles and 2 handguns in a weeks time. I was in the garage working on political signs with the radio blasting... I could hear an extra thumping noise (like bass) and it wasn't going to the song. I thought WTF.. so I turned off the radio.. and could hear the Thumping sound very loud then. I went out the side door of the garage and right in front of me at the tops of the trees was a green helicopter (kind that troops transport in). It had no markings and was close enough I could see the pilot. Scared the sh&t out of me! First reaction was to get my gun... it was up at the house. So, second reaction was to give them the middle finger... I did, both middle fingers. They flew off.
Next incident was only a month ago... much like you I HAD tons of sites of interest (to me and them) bookmarked (i'm a very verbal Bush basher by the way). I was online and following links to wherever they lead me... when my computer mouse moved by itself... my screen went blue for a couple minutes... then restarted. When my computer came back up I opened Opera browser (which always starts me where I left off). My homepage was changed to this www.cid.army.mil... and remains that way today (I figure they would just change it back next time). All my bookmarks were gone. All of them gone. My computer has been swept and cleared of backdoors and trojans... now has a firewall on it... but still, I doubt that will keep them out of it if they really want in.

Again, thanks for your story. If someone gets on your nerves you don't have to have a battle of words with them... just hit the ignore button under their name... and POOF, they are gone.

PS - UPLANDER... I believe the OP said that they did not get a pic of the vans parked outside... but they got pics showing out the window showing where the vans were parked.

[edit on 25-7-2008 by thecandyman]

reply to post by iamcanadian2


Loss for words? By what? You've posted nothing significant. Just paranoid rantings and commented on something that has been discussed before on ATS I'm sorry, I don't want to see your "statistics" because I was talking to the OP not you.

You've accused me of denying certain subject matter that I never denied. I was talking about the OP's experience and then you accused me of denying the government doesn't spy on people! Have you paid attention at all? Obviously not

Stop using my responses to promote your activist "credentials".

It is hilarious you think I am apart of the illuminati - it proves my conclusions right. You are not an activist and probably in your early teens.

Please grow up and stop trying to get my attention.

Welcome to my ignore list

*clicks ignore*

reply to post by thecandyman


Interesting link that replaced your web page. More scare tactics on their part. Did you mange to get your web page back up and if so can you link us to your web page?

Both my son and I saw a the same type of helicopter stop over our house a few month ago. What a sight to see a helicopter that big and that close to my house. I just gave them a wave and went back inside my house. I am sure my neighbours had to wonder why this helicopter was motionless above my house.

I am also glad that OP brought this to ATS.
I have also experienced computer hacking and I believe the OP said she had many problems with her computer as well. I hope she is still reading this thread and did not suddenly find her computer compromised.

We as targets do experience very strange occurrences but the good part about the strangeness of public incidents is that other people do see some of these incidents and it does help the target to be believed in the community. This is a tough one for the average person to wrap their head around. No one wants to believe that this kind of crap actually happens to the average person.

This post is hylarious, the two pics about...nothing, are priceless

reply to post by zorgon

reply to post by Sharr


Yup - coincidence can adequately explain everything you mentioned. You are attributing more weight to events and circumstances that you perceive as something strange, and ignoring events that are perfectly normal, which gives you a lop-sided view of events, skewed heavily towards the negative.

Originally posted by Sharr
Yeah...its definitely wild for sure! Thanks for all the information on these "federal police" and you're right, I'll keep in mind that they don't play by the books...AND I'm going to have to start posting threads like this on ATS with a proxy server (I can't believe I didn't think of that in the first place...DUH! lol) and I am definitely in the process of going over my computer with a fine-toothed comb to see what I can find...and yeah, they'll probably lurk in the shadows for a while, but that doesn't mean I can't find them

I'm starting to think about hooking up my webcam so I can keep an eye on things while I'm gone/sleeping but...that might open me up to even more spying if they can tap in to the camera and watch us through it...yeah, maybe I should abort that mission...and on that note, I'm unplugging my computers mic

Yours in the Light...

P.S. does anyone know IF a computer/phone was to be bugged, where (if any) the general location of the bug would be? just curious...also, does anyone have any idea what else I can do to save my ass...? what if they come up to us and try to arrest us/me...is there any way I can resist? or do they have jurisdiction? although it IS making me feel RATHER important and boosting my self-esteem...its nice to know the government is threatened by US for a change eh?

there's so much counter-surveillance things you can buy cheap off the internet at any spy/gadget shop they have bug detectors that will supposedly detect any bug on your phone line they have ones that detec tthe bugs in your house they have bug jammers they have all sorts of things just go look up anti surveillance or counter surveillance stores theres tons of them on the net

OP,

Re cell-phone:
It's called "roving wiretaps"
Government can turn on your phone to listen to conversations nearby without you knowing it's on.
Even works when the cell is turned off.
GPS also real-time tracks your movements and feeds pings from cell-phones nearby during the roving wiretap so they can also be roving-wiretapped.
Google for more info on everything I post.
Have learned to compose quickly, post without preview and not accept cookies.

>>~~>Me personally:
.I'd driven to a grocery store to shop.
.Found I had left my wallet at home and sped back to get it.
.A gray car zoomed past me in a no passing zone.
.I turned down my block and the gray car was driving towards me with a black SUV right behind.
.Later, while unloading groceries,
.A neighbor, from around the corner, walked up, and said:
he-"I wish your visitors would park in front of your house instead of mine."
me-"I've been gone, shopping, I had no visitors."
he-"I saw the two guys from that black GM (suv) go into your house."

I, later that night, found my computer had lost files.
I got out my CD backups, blank. Read only CD's were blank.
Not all of them.
eg: I still have the testimony of one of the men who killed Jimmy Hoffa:
who cut him up and who put his body in the Meadowlands Stadium's concrete foundations.
AIDS Birth files vanished. Other files about Gov't, and LE website posts from years vanished.

Sept 1 2001: I was posting about a rightwinger (R) staffer, who worked on the Hill, e-mailing me there was about to be a stock market crash.
(it happened 9/10/01)
Sept 1 2001 My computer's hard drive caught fire while I was posting. Literally.
Last post before that one was about the comprehensive count of all Florida ballots (which showed Gore won) being scheduled for release on September 11, 2001.
"Events" caused the release of that count to be delayed and restated for "patriotic reasons" to waffle about who won by what standard.


WE ARE ALL BEING WATCHED!

You are not alone.

Google:
"Declan" "keystroke logger + fbi"
"Magic Lantern"
"Echelon" "Carnivore" "FISA"

OP,

Re cell-phone:
It's called "roving wiretaps"
Government can turn on your phone to listen to conversations nearby without you knowing it's on.
Even works when the cell is turned off.
GPS also real-time tracks your movements and feeds pings from cell-phones nearby during the roving wiretap so they can also be roving-wiretapped.
Google for more info on everything I post.
Have learned to compose quickly, post without preview and not accept cookies.

>>~~>Me personally:
.I'd driven to a grocery store to shop.
.Found I had left my wallet at home and sped back to get it.
.A gray car zoomed past me in a no passing zone.
.I turned down my block and the gray car was driving towards me with a black SUV right behind.
.Later, while unloading groceries,
.A neighbor, from around the corner, walked up, and said:
he-"I wish your visitors would park in front of your house instead of mine."
me-"I've been gone, shopping, I had no visitors."
he-"I saw the two guys from that black GM (suv) go into your house."

I, later that night, found my computer had lost files.
I got out my CD backups, blank. Read only CD's were blank.
Not all of them.
eg: I still have the testimony of one of the men who killed Jimmy Hoffa:
who cut him up and who put his body in the Meadowlands Stadium's concrete foundations.
AIDS Birth files vanished. Other files about Gov't, and LE website posts from years vanished.

Sept 1 2001: I was posting about a rightwinger (R) staffer, who worked on the Hill, e-mailing me there was about to be a stock market crash.
(it happened 9/10/01)
Sept 1 2001 My computer's hard drive caught fire while I was posting. Literally.
Last post before that one was about the comprehensive count of all Florida ballots (which showed Gore won) being scheduled for release on September 11, 2001.
"Events" caused the release of that count to be delayed and restated for "patriotic reasons" to waffle about who won by what standard.


WE ARE ALL BEING WATCHED!

You are not alone.

Google:
"Declan" "keystroke logger + fbi"
"Magic Lantern"
"Echelon" "Carnivore" "FISA"

In addition I sometimes log-on and find posts I did not make.
Is some kid hacking my computer.
Anyone can buy a keystroke logger modeled after Magic Lantern and Internet Security software is written to "not see" Magic Lantern.
(Declan writes about that quite a bit)
Are a couple neighbors playing tricks.
Last hacker I tracked down sold ad spots for a local talk radio station. He did not like my politics. I tw was personal.
Might not be the government watching you; There are crazies who are just private citizens.

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a message to the cia,mi6,mi5 and other agencies
« Thread started on: Jul 24th, 2008, 08:53am »

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To Whom It May Concern as I know you monitor such sites as these, you have removed certain photos from my computer and as I have several copies of said photos not only on disk but on film, I now know I have stumbled upon something in one or more of said photos and will investigate further. By deleting the said photos you have proven to me that you are mindless morons and are severely lacking brain cells, the clever thing to have done as you seem to have had access to my computer would have been to install a virus to delete everything on my computer that way I would have looked at the incident as a virus attack but instead you only deleted certain photos that I had already published which has not only verified your stupidity but that something in said photos has hit a nerve and has you running scared, could it be the photos of American troops at raf machrihanish or is it the photos of a certain plant and underground facility in Midlothian lol that was built by a company that specializes in deep underground tunneling (Murphy’s) or is it my investigating the shadow warriors USAF, that you had the police follow me for over 10 miles before stopping me, yes the giveaway was when the police officer asked me what the cameras and binoculars where for even though they where out of view and there was no way they could have known I had said equipment lol stupid or what, did they not teach you anything at public school apart from how to sign daddies check book.
You know who I am and no doubt have a history of my life better than I do, you know my involvement with certain members of the Basque separatist movement, or the mafia and a certain Chinese organization in the seventies and my enforced stays in the big house in the seventies and eighties yet your Mr. Mankins invited me into nasa hq probably under the impression I was someone else, how stupid was that as I said you are mindless morons and missing a large amount of brain cells and your judgment day is soon to be upon you as you are slowly but positively loosing your hold over the masses who no longer swallow your deceit and lies and now see you for what you really represent.
As stated I will be going through the deleted photos with a fine tooth comb to obtain the reason why you completely removed all traces of them from my computer.
Before all their skeptical followers start the B/S replies to the above letter, it is not put here as a post but as a form of communication between them and me to let them know that I know so don’t bother with replies.



That was written by a friend of mine and his harassment continues....

hi all.
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who was it "Keel"? anyway, someone back in maybe the 70s or early 80s wrote about about aliens and UFOs. He wanted to research whether they actually exist.
the Men In Black [MIB] then began to appear in his life. Got to the point where even papers in his office began to Levitate!
In one case, a black car came at him in his lane, a head on collision. But this black car went right through he and his car like of a ghost!

????
His final, i think, findings where that UFOs, the MIB, were Spirit
realities! That this is nothing new, that back in the "darker ages" it was the attack of demons! Bad entities from the lower spiritual planes partially materialize where they *look* to be real and/or human!

There would be people who might try to give to you all the advice to "call upon the Name of Jesus Christ", when confronted with these entities!

One similar book writer wrote about how he HAD to now accept that the spirit planes exist and that all is not always nice there. He had to then confront that he will live after death, in one of these planes.

Another book, maybe this same first one, he told, at the end, that UFOs
are a spirit phenomena, and "multidimensional realities" really really mean that all of these dimensions co-exist right "next door" to this one that we live in, and bleedthroughs occur.

Try reading some of these books about "alien abduction" and UFOs!

the vast realm of "poltergeists, demons, angels, spirits, ghosts, heaven and hell, and the like, Await! a deep Hole indeed.

summery: that many of your [all's] men in black with black cars are NON-PHYSICAL materializations of entities from other dimensions!!
They have the same "MO" of demon and spirit entities' appearing to you.
Entities that have appeared to individuals from day one! they just change their appearences to keep up with the times!

freestone

[edit on 12-10-2009 by freestonew]

reply to post by freestonew


Yep. It was John Keel, he wrote "The Mothman Prophesies"... I just checked on google and he died this July(?!). Anyways, that book is probably the best UFO/Paranormal thing I ever read. The things he encountered go far beyond FED's and whatnot.

Example: One time, a friend called Keel, but dialed one number off, the phone still rings at Keel's house, the friend was about to hang up but he picked up. Turns out he had two phone numbers. On a out of town trip, Keel calls the other number and someone with Keel's voice picks up.

Crazy stuff. What I want to know is, why are all these people still allowed to report what they've found? Or at least report that they've been victim of these MIB/FED's?

Have you ever seen the movie "Gaslight"? It's an old movie but the film is about a woman who is being mentally harassed by her husband/boyfriend, all in the name of money. He rigs her house so it seems there are ghosts and tries to drive her insane. Your b/f might be a real piece of work, or not. I'll let you decide that. Do some research on c.i.a. spook houses, planned deception, false prophecy, secret societies, etc. Check out, "how to create an undetectable mind control slave". Just ignore the fear in any situation if you can, it will only make you stronger.

reply to post by Sharr


Hi,
It is quite weird you bring this up. I live in austarlia, and have also been, talking to my other half about the same things, roughly for the past 2 years. A year ago, I started to talk about who was controlling the world to my other half, at 10:30 night time. Now considering i never use my mobile much, it basically there in case of emergencies. Right at that time I had a weird phone call, when I picked it up, there was no noise what so ever, but it was still in call. I said hello 3 times, and nothing. So I hung up. Now ever since that night, We will talk about odds and end things. The weird things is, that the next day, I will check my emails, and when I come out, the Nine MSN site comes up, and usually asked poll questions. The interesting thing is, as soon as I complain about something, the next day I am ask a question, about the topic I was complaining about. Now this happens every time. Makes me wonder sometimes, thats for sure.

MP

My internet is watched and monitored quite heavily,they think iam connected with wikileaks tho they have no proof,i am a supporter of WL but have nothing to do with them.
I undergo heavy censorship and some forums i have posted in are shut down within 24hrs.
Both Yahoo and google data mine us ( they do everyone ) however Yahoo and myself are in a constant information war, i give info - they censor it and delete it- whole conversations deleted.
I live in a remote coastal town,at the end of a long dirt rd.
I have been expecting a helicopter for months and about two weeks ago,an unmarked chopper popped up out of nowhere and flew around my house, so i gave them the middle finger (THE BIRD).
Computer taken down 3 times in less that 12 months.Lucky i have mates that can build em and fix em.

I have been tested for remote viewing by outside agencies on more than one occasion.

I no longer have a mobile phone (not needed),all my purchases are done in cash, i withdraw all my money from the bank in one transaction.

In the end i see it all as good fun,they dont bother me - iam not scared, the cowards hide behind monitoring equipment filling an agenda under the guise of homeland security. Cowards the lot of em.

That is some freaky stuff. But you can never be to sure if it's government. In the end who is the government? As Clinton admitted '' there is a government inside the government and I don't control them''. Maybe you've gone too deep. Just be careful, avoid breaking laws and document+post everything unusual. That is a weapon we now have against them, the internet. And don't worry too much. The conduit is closing, it's well on it's way.