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posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by Equinox99




So you wanting the weak humans dead is showing love? I do not want to see you hate.

This is getting ridiculous, where did I say I wanted weak humans dead. This isn't my solution, I'm not the Illuminati.



So they are the people who are slowing down progression. With the knowledge they hold all of humanity could have progressed into the next level. Their greed is what is holding us back and I do not understand why you can't see this.


Why does everyone want to be given something. How do you think they got it. If you want to know why not go out and get it your self. No one is stoping you from educating yourself. But know you want it the easy way right, you want them to do all the work and then tell you. LOL



But you accept the destruction of humans which means you follow the same path. Of course not physically, but mentally.


I accept it because I can not provide an alternative solution. When you can not fix a problem on your own and some one else has to come to fix it for you, chances are your not going to like how they do it, but nevertheless it has to be done. This is always the case.



You stated how weak animals are killed. Turtles are one of the weakest creatures yet they have lasted longer then many of the animals.


Yes but they still are dominated, they are not overpopulating the Earth last time I check!!




Guess what will happen if the Illuminati take over? There is a great chance you will be dead, or be a work slave. If that is your idea of a great life then I would rather die by the gun.


If my death serves to bring about a world with out suffering then I offer it wholeheartedly.
I will never be a slave!

[edit on 7/17/2008 by XcLuciFer]



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:42 PM
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Yes but they still are dominated, they are not overpopulating the Earth last time I check!!


there are more spiders than humans.


what's that mean? i'm scared!



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:43 PM
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I must have phrased my comment wrongly, you misunderstood it. I´m sending you a U2U to clarify because the comment is intended towards you and your opening post specifically.


[edit on 17-7-2008 by Skyfloating]



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by undo



Yes but they still are dominated, they are not overpopulating the Earth last time I check!!


there are more spiders than humans.


what's that mean? i'm scared!



LoL.... This is what I'm talking about, you call that thinking! Do you honestly think spiders are overpopulating the earth. This is a waste of my time!



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by XcLuciFer


LoL.... This is what I'm talking about, you call that thinking! Do you honestly think spiders are overpopulating the earth. This is a waste of my time!


it's never a waste of time to laugh. Now as far as spiders go. It's true. there are more spiders than humans. I think they said something like 10 spiders for every square foot .. Apparently there's some really small spiders.

Now if you were an extra-terrestrial species, wanting to study a planet, what better place to hide out than in the spider population. how many of them do you think are really little android spiders in disguise or little nano spiders, so small we can't see them but .........

eek




Spiders, however, are not polluting the planet. Although, I'm not so sure about any potential nano-bots.

Isn't it amazing that we assume things must be people sized or larger to have the mental capacity to do widespread damage but yet a real virus can level a population in a few days? We are sitting ducks in a huge, universal shooting gallery and if somebody doesn't have our best interests at heart, the fat lady already sang and we just don't know it yet.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:53 PM
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Its a mathematical fact that people must die!!!!





posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 04:58 PM
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who are we kidding?
this stuff is off the richter scale



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:25 PM
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This is getting ridiculous, where did I say I wanted weak humans dead. This isn't my solution, I'm not the Illuminati.


You follow them do you now? The Illuminati's interest is your interest not mine. Illuminati want to reduce the population of the Earth by 2/3 so therefore that is in your interest.



Why does everyone want to be given something. How do you think they got it. If you want to know why not go out and get it your self. No one is stoping you from educating yourself. But know you want it the easy way rigth, you want them to do all the work and then tell you. LOL


So what you are saying is the Illuminati made those inventions themselves? Hardly, they would have robbed someone else for them. They are not smart they have money. I already came to the conclusion that they have not lifted a finger, they are all born into riches and are handed everything. Don't believe me? Go research the backgrounds of the people you praise. Rockefeller, Rothschild and etc.



I accept it because I can not provide an alternative solution. When you can not fix a problem on your own and some one else has to come to fix it for you, chances are your not going to like how they do it, but nevertheless it has to be done. This is always the case.


There are always other alternatives. Science has gone a long way. Now if we were exposed to the technology that those elite have stole from people we could have seeded other planets now couldn't we? They are scum and will get what is coming to them.



Yes but they still are dominated, they are not overpopulating the Earth last time I check!!



Neither does the lion now do they?



If my death serves to bring about a world with out suffering then I offer it wholeheartedly.
I will never be a slave!


So slavery is not suffering? Do us all a favor and go offer yourself to the Illuminati.

[edit on 17-7-2008 by Equinox99]



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:27 PM
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LoL.... This is what I'm talking about, you call that thinking! Do you honestly think spiders are overpopulating the earth. This is a waste of my time!


Yet here you linger trying to feed us this crap that there is disinformation about Satanism. No disinformation here it is the truth. Satanism is evil if it spits out believers like yourself.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by dunwichwitch
I think too many people tend to take religion for face value. Satanism is not a religion. It's a rebellion against something in which neither the majority of Religious people, nor the people who rebel against it, understand much about.

Christianity has some beautiful and enlightening concepts behind all of the dogmas the Church pushes. So do all religions. Try understanding, instead of rebelling and feeling bitterness and hatred and arrogance.

I can already tell that you're bitter, 666. If you weren't bitter, you wouldn't be going on about Satanism in the first place. It is absolutely ridiculous, man. Just drop it. If you wanna practice something other than religion, why not meditate and find your own wisdom and spiritual path? Why worship rebellion against creation, when your very essence is a part of that which you wish to rebel against?


wow, i just started reading from where i left off last night and BAM, judgemental right away. You know what i want, what i do, and why i am doing it. oh and that i am bitter. you are quite far off on all accounts. and if you can read... my original point was
say it with me now
why does every conspiracy theory here lead to "satanism" somehow in every thread
why should anyone be trusted on here when so much ignorant crap about satan is included in that.

that is all. I want to know why satan is so important to everyone here. it seems there is more satan on the site than anywhere else i go online so i want to know why it is mostly wrong and with that, what credibility does anything else have.

i did not rail against religion, i spoke out against preaching "facts" from a christian bible. that defeats the purpose of restoring credibility by making an actual point in light of the original post.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by re22666
wow, i just started reading from where i left off last night and BAM, judgemental right away. You know what i want, what i do, and why i am doing it. oh and that i am bitter. you are quite far off on all accounts. and if you can read... my original point was
say it with me now
why does every conspiracy theory here lead to "satanism" somehow in every thread
why should anyone be trusted on here when so much ignorant crap about satan is included in that.

that is all. I want to know why satan is so important to everyone here. it seems there is more satan on the site than anywhere else i go online so i want to know why it is mostly wrong and with that, what credibility does anything else have.

i did not rail against religion, i spoke out against preaching "facts" from a christian bible. that defeats the purpose of restoring credibility by making an actual point in light of the original post.


Then look no further to your own fellow people. I have never met you nor have I judged you but people ruin it for Satanism. People ruin it for Christianity and there is more hate spewing towards Christianity then Satanism. When Satanists such as XLucifer start saying 2/3 must die how does that reflect towards Satanism?



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by undo
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well as with your own path, my life experiences have taught me a certain measure of understanding, which i can attribute to more than "religion", as it's no longer just a written text but a living example. in other words, personal witness, testimony and experience, which i feel, is almost entirely unsurpassable. if someone could prove i was hallucinating during those moments, i'd be more inclined to consider them less than unsurpassable, but just that alone would be a work fit for the most stubborn individual on the planet and probably even that wouldn't succeed. cause i'd still have that niggling doubt in the back of my mind that i know what i saw, know what i heard, and so on.



what you describe is called "spirituality" around here and most places i know of and that is all fine and good. I have no problem with anyone having any kind of faith and hope. My problem is those people answering real world questions with some nonsense from a book of fables that some religion uses as its favorite bed time story.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:44 PM
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Their is so many inconsistency's in you last response I don't feel it warrants a reply. I'm done wasting my energy on you! God luck with you quest for ignorance.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:47 PM
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When Satanists such as XLucifer start saying 2/3 must die how does that reflect towards Satanism?


Well prophetically-speaking it means the bad guy is preparing to fulfull scripture. he apparently doesn't believe the details of what happens after that.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:48 PM
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This is incredible, you have no idea what your talking about!!!!


I'm not a Satanists, you assume much to much!



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by dunwichwitch
I mean... do I need to understand the exact design and construction methods of a Remington shotgun to know that if you fiddle with the trigger, you might just be liable to blow your or someone else's brains out? No... but observation of the nature of shotguns and people who carry them tend to give me a negative impression towards guns and people who use guns to illustrate a point or carry out a deed.



you mean like say...thousands of Catholic priests raping young boys? so you agree with me it is time to charge the entire catholic church as a pedophile cult?
i mean what observations are you speaking of? satanic rituals? do you see them? often?
besides that...my thread is not about the nature of satanism. it is about people like you that say negative things about it based on absoloutely NOTHING!!!!!!!!



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:51 PM
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My problem is those people answering real world questions with some nonsense from a book of fables that some religion uses as its favorite bed time story.


oh now see, this is where we would have some trouble with communicating. i think it's just as accurate (in the original languages) as say a modern day history book and in some cases, more accurate. i don't view the ancient texts as fairy tales, myths and bedtime stories. i think they are all talking about the same events from different cultural positions.



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by re22666

you mean like say...thousands of Catholic priests raping young boys? so you agree with me it is time to charge the entire catholic church as a pedophile cult?
i mean what observations are you speaking of? satanic rituals? do you see them? often?
besides that...my thread is not about the nature of satanism. it is about people like you that say negative things about it based on absoloutely NOTHING!!!!!!!!


Well before we could charge the catholic church with being a pedophile cult, we'd have to backtrack to the grecian and roman empires, in which pederasty was a normal and in many cases, preferred form of sexual erm....expression.
en.wikipedia.org... in truth, it was a pagan social construct before it was a catholic one. seems to me that some of the pederastic priests are just generational from prior ones back to the days of pagan rome. a tradition that just never stopped all these millenia.

not that i'm condoning it, i'm just pointing out that their behavior on such topics originated in rome, and before that greece and at the time, was considered normal and many cases, preferable, which just goes to show ya, social mores are rubbery blobs of playdoh



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by undo
i have a few things to add to the topic of the upside down pentagram.

now this may not be the offiical definition for it, but this is something i've pondered and seen as example:

let's start with an hourglass shape. it's two triangles, one pointing down, the other pointing up. when they intersect, they form the magen (the star of david), which is also the neck of the wormhole, the neck of the hourglass. that point in time between beginning and end we think of as the "ever present." this i believe is another way of saying I AM. (denoting eternal presence, or omnipresence).

anyway, the downward pointing triangle is God reaching down to man, in another example. and the upward pointing triangle is man reaching up to God.
so does the pentagram symbollize communion with omnipresence?

explain what this symbol means to you.



[edit on 17-7-2008 by undo]


this logo means to me that like almost EVERYTHING in the world, things break down into basic shapes. squares, spheres, triangles/pyramids and so on. Also because of asthaetics and human nature, so many things are created symetrical. so take a world full of triangles and symetry and what do you get? the ability to see illiuminati symbols everywhere and satanic imagery in everything. where did the star become evil anyway? tell me that?
the upside down star means nothing outside of the fact that it is pleasing to the eye and brain, it makes placing points easy, its considered natural and apparently that means something and on and on. it is a bunch of intersecting lines. do you really believe that anything drawn on paper in and of itself can cause some kind of harm?

i could tell you exactly what it means in satanism but then you would have more questions and this is not that kind of thread. all the information about the church of satan is easily availabe from the church itself online and at libraries and books stores.

I asked why ignorant people speak of satanism as if they know something and never base it on anything. i have yet to see anyone just say hey, im ignorant and have no opinion. it seems the more ignorant, the stronger the opinion



posted on Jul, 17 2008 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by madhatter3113


Just like the upside down cross. If you believe the bible, then peter was crucified upsidedown. Was HE satanic?

And how is the cross "holy"? It existed as a form of execution long before jesus was nailed to it.


[edit on 7/17/2008 by madhatter3113]

[edit on 7/17/2008 by madhatter3113]

amen. i cant tell you how many times i have had those two conversations.



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