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Originally posted by SlightlyAbovePar
The Irreducible Delusion in this particular argument is there was no airplane crash in PA.
Hundreds of First responders, the local Sheriff's Department, the Fire Department, Coroner, media who covered the story, the airline company itself and volunteers all disagree with this assertion.
Tons (literally) of aircraft wreckage, personal effects and body parts entirely consistent with FLT 93 were recovered.
There is no reason to follow the rabbit deeper into the hole. These are basic facts.
Originally posted by IvanZana
Dig deeper into this subject.
The end result is that you will learn that flight 93 never crashed in Shanksville. All the evidence from the crash site proves this.
" No need to dig deeper" pfffffff...... later...lol
We havent even begun.
Originally posted by thedman
Eye witnesses are often unreliable - thats why need to be backed up
with hard evidence. If it was a missile explain how 60 tons of
parts from B 757 got there and how the first responders saw the
ground littered with debris from aircraft. Or the human remains
recovered - missiles don't have seats for passengers. Or the FDR
recording United 93 as being rolled over, nose down at 500 knots.
Originally posted by kozmo
Originally posted by thedman
Eye witnesses are often unreliable - thats why need to be backed up
with hard evidence. If it was a missile explain how 60 tons of
parts from B 757 got there and how the first responders saw the
ground littered with debris from aircraft. Or the human remains
recovered - missiles don't have seats for passengers. Or the FDR
recording United 93 as being rolled over, nose down at 500 knots.
That's interesting... considering that the plane weighs 142,000 pounds without fuel, cargo and passengers. Your assertion that they recovered 60 tons (Or 120,000 pounds) of parts indicates that over 80% of the plane was recovered - which we all know is pure BULLOCKS!
Originally posted by thedman
Eye witnesses are often unreliable - thats why need to be backed up
with hard evidence. If it was a missile explain how 60 tons of
parts from B 757 got there and how the first responders saw the
ground littered with debris from aircraft. Or the human remains
recovered - missiles don't have seats for passengers. Or the FDR
recording United 93 as being rolled over, nose down at 500 knots.
Bob Blair was completing a routine drive to Shade Creek just after 10 a.m. Tuesday, when he saw a huge silver plane fly past him just above the treetops and crash into the woods along Lambertsville Road.
Blair, of Stoystown, a driver with Jim Barron Trucking of Somerset, was traveling in a coal truck along with Doug Miller of Somerset, when they saw the plane spiraling to the ground and then explode on the outskirts of Lambertsville.
“I saw the plane flying upside down overhead and crash into the nearby trees. My buddy, Doug, and I grabbed our fire extinguishers and ran to the scene,” said Blair.
"It was low enough, I thought you could probably count the rivets. You could see more of the roof of the plane than you could the belly. It was on its side. There was a great explosion and you could see the flames. It was a massive, massive explosion. Flames and then smoke and then a massive, massive mushroom cloud."
Then Peterson said he saw a fireball, heard an explosion and saw a mushroom cloud of smoke rise into the sky.
Peterson rushed to the scene on an all-terrain vehicle and when he arrived he saw bits and pieces of an airliner spread over a large area of an abandoned strip-mine in Stonycreek Township.
"There was a crater in the ground that was really burning," Peterson said. Strewn about were pieces of clothing hanging from trees and parts of the Boeing 757, but nothing bigger than a couple of feet long, he said. Many of the items were burning.
Miller was familiar with scenes of sudden and violent death, although none quite like this. Walking in his gumboots, the only recognisable body part he saw was a piece of spinal cord, with five vertebrae attached. 'I've seen a lot of highway fatalities where there's fragmentation,' Miller said. 'The interesting thing about this particular case is that I haven't, to this day, 11 months later, seen any single drop of blood. Not a drop. The only thing I can deduce is that the crash was over in half a second. There was a fireball 15-20 metres high, so all of that material just got vaporised.'"
Conspiracy kooks like to home in on those "witnesses" whose
stories can be twisted to confirm their fantasies while ignoring all
other evidence.