Is Planet X impossible?

I've read about failed predictions concerning Planet X appearing in 2003, but this thread isn't about extraneous stuff.

I'm not a scientist, and so when scientifically oriented people tell me what they know, I don't really sometimes understand what they are saying.

But I have read what these people have said, and here are the points my very scientifically uneducated mind has perceived.

1. Some of those amateurs with telescopes would have seen it.

2. Not just the south pole observers would see it.

3. If it was this close, it's effect would be seen in changes in the movement of planets and moons in the solar system

So my question is whether these science savy people know things that make it clear that Planet X is not going to happen, or is it possible that Planet X is a totally new phenomena that even science brains haven't figured out?

It isn't going to happen, and if it did we would know it years before. I'm sure that we would see a planet moving towards us as soon as it got pas the astriod belt at least. You can see mars with the naked eye at times, so you'd see a huge planet comming towards you years before it got here. At least that's my whole opinion on that old act

But I have read what these people have said, and here are the points my very scientifically uneducated mind has perceived.

1. Some of those amateurs with telescopes would have seen it.

2. Not just the south pole observers would see it.

3. If it was this close, it's effect would be seen in changes in the movement of planets and moons in the solar system

So my question is whether these science savy people know things that make it clear that Planet X is not going to happen, or is it possible that Planet X is a totally new phenomena that even science brains haven't figured out?

1. If any large planet or brown dwarf was on course to enter the inner Solar System (ie. somewhere near Earth) in 2012, then it would have to be within the orbit of Uranus right now. Since Uranus is actually just visible to the naked eye if you know where to look, amateur astronomers would have no trouble seeing a large planet closer than it with small telescopes, or even binoculars.

2. The south celestial pole would be easily visible from any southern hemisphere locations (Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Argentina etc). If a large planet was approaching us from that direction, it would have been seen by thousands of amateur astronomers. Keeping it a secret would be impossible.

3. An object of the size attributed to Nibiru/Planet X would indeed have caused measurable gravitational perturbations to the orbits of the outer planets. The magnitude of these perturbations would depend on how close the object was to a particular planet, but they would be noticed even if it was relatively distant. The orbits of the major planets are calculated using very sophisticated Digital Ephemeris algorithms, and the discrepancies between those calculations and the actual perturbed positions of the planets would have been detected by now.

[edit on 11-7-2008 by Mogget]

I heard it was currently behind the sun.

I wouldn't know how long it would take for it to show up behind the sun.

But there has been claims that leaked pictures have been posted on youtube taken from a telescope located at a south pole station in january of this year.



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There was a thread about this last week that offered some proof.

Nibiru Has Been Found

the answers to you question as to why noone has seen it is simple, It is not infact a planet. It is a brown dwarf star, a failed sun. It is constantly shrouded in dust from the failed ignition but burns beneath the surface (like a piece of charcoal) as of now it can only be seen with a heat telescope. as for your other question. it does affect the orbit of the outer planets and that was the main reason science started looking for the planet (to account for the movement in the outer planets they saw.

Hope this helps.