Philosophical Discussion : What If Next Time You Clicked "Post New Topic" Made You A Terrorist?

i guess i would answer that it all depends on what you believe you are under citizenship wise.

i am not under the regime of the current government, so they would be misinformed as to their jurisdiction over me.

i would inform them that i rest under the constitution of the united states of america and they can *snip* themselves.... for what it's worth.


Liberty cannot be caged into a charter or handed on ready-made to the next generation. Each generation must recreate liberty for its own times. Whether or not we establish freedom rests with ourselves. ~ Florence Ellenwood

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas


Excellent post and topic of discussion.You know I like to think that what you say would never happen because of our forefathers sacrifices.But you know what,if it did make me a terrorist to speak out against tyranny-SO BE IT!

reply to post by jkrog08


That's basically what most people are saying on this thread. It kind of sucks to say the least that it seems to be trending that way that a simple click of a mouse might send you to Gitmo someday.

This is actually a very important topic. We are currently free to speak our minds on various topics here at ATS without fear of reprisal. However, this right that we currently enjoy is seen by our government as a future threat and they are taking definitive steps toward curtailing such freedoms. It will happen in small steps, used first against marginalized groups who are seen by the public at large as 'fringe' elements, and gradually progressing to more and more mainstream parts of society. In this way public acceptance can managed while people become accustomed to such practices. Eventually, the scope will expand to affect all speech.

House Resolution 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007. This is perhaps one of the scariest pieces of legislation that I have ever seen. If you want to see how clicking that 'post' button could brand you a terrorist in the future, you owe it to yourself to watch the following video.

Part 1


Part 2


The topic in the OP is not the least bit far-fetched. It is happening right now, before our very eyes.

reply to post by SystemiK


Thanks so much for your interesting reply. I am grateful for it. What most people do not realize, is that the Internet has been and always has been the largest surveillance weapon in the world since its inception.

This last weekend, a friend of mine was returning from a tropical destination faraway. He was not happy with his airline and he is rather spoiled as he is used to flying first class. Anyway as he was departing the plane he told the flight attendant to F*** Off and later was detained by Homeland Security. He said HS was quite nice but warned him that he could be placed on a No Fly list. Can't even tell a Flight attendant to FO any more. However my friend should have kept his mouth shut.

reply to post by cindymars


Well, obviously his sense of decorum was overidden by his feeling of expressing what he thought.

That was quite silly of him, as anyone knows you do not attack a corporation or their people directly, you write a nice and polite letter as to why you will never fly on their airlines again, with the reasoning, and no threats.

You might even get a free ticket out of the interchange, by acting like a mature adult.

Thanks for the reply.

The written word has long been an outlet for rebellion, heresy or treason, all of which now fall under the jingoistic cloak of “terrorism”. Look at Martin Luther nailing his 95 Theses to a church door, or the Declaration of Independence, or the manifesto of your choice. Though it may seem Orwellian (or even Bradburian) the written word, nay, the printed word is an authority’s worst nightmare.

The age of the internet, the ease of self-publishing, the rise of the blogosphere... should rightfully cause fear to those who would wish to suppress discordant ideas.

Originally posted by JoshNorton
The written word has long been an outlet for rebellion, heresy or treason, all of which now fall under the jingoistic cloak of “terrorism”. Look at Martin Luther nailing his 95 Theses to a church door, or the Declaration of Independence, or the manifesto of your choice. Though it may seem Orwellian (or even Bradburian) the written word, nay, the printed word is an authority’s worst nightmare.

The age of the internet, the ease of self-publishing, the rise of the blogosphere... should rightfully cause fear to those who would wish to suppress discordant ideas.

The only thing I see difficult with the written word, is not everyone, including uptight Government officials, as well as censors, or other individuals, is you can not always tell the context of something that is said in as well as the level of joviality the person is saying it in at all times.

While I communicate with extreme patiences, even then, people still don't get it.

Good post, thanks.

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reply to post by Buck Division


I've been re-reading previous thread I've done, and I see where this might have not been clearer. If I had included this other thread as a premise it might have helped it along.

Research Project On New Terrorist Labeling

According to the government DOD report Sponge-Bob could be a domestic terrorist Eventually people will wake up, right?

reply to post by ForceMaster


I sincerely hope so. Unfortunately, I don't think so.

America is on, and has been on, a slippery slope.

Well I'm already red flagged for the things of which I speak in public. So to be honest (I"M PROUD TO Be) THEEr in this state of government induced mass delusion. I mean think about it a REVOLUTIONARY would be a TERRORIST, correct?

First thanks OP for posting a lot and being active in sharing your thoughts.

Second I would not loose one wink of sleep over being labeled a terrorist for posting my writings. In fact I would consider it to be a badge of honor.

To be a terrorist you must be frightening someone for political means. So if what you have to post, what I have to post, if what any one of us has to post is causing politicians fear I would say that’s a very good thing. A healthy dose of fear goes a long way in keeping people honest.

I do believe one person could change the world, and that at pivotal points in human history it was essentially one person who changed the overall course and direction of human kind.

One person can make a difference and in my humble opinion no one person should ever think they can’t make a difference or ever have to fear honestly sharing their thoughts.

I think it will be cool to have a solid black tee-shirt with white letters that say TERRORIST, maybe even a ball cap to go with it. Of course you still wouldn’t look as Nazi like as the Feds in full riot gear, after all they are the Terrorists!

The new Homeland Security Report on Rightwing Extremist means that just about everyone who takes a stand for anything that concerns ‘God, country and family’ is a possible domestic terrorist; I for certain have met every requirement to be at the top of their list. So why worry? “If this be rebellion, let us make the most of it.”

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

Who is and who is not a terrorist can become pretty confusing !

For an example of 'just how deep the rabbit hole goes,' here's a portion of an interview with a gentleman convicted of the high felony of treason, in which he recounts his career as a black ops specialist for 'certain US govt agencies' ...

reply to post by visible_villain


I remember this particular thread not taking off too well because people thought it would never happen.

Create A Thread, A Post, Or Partake In Blogs, and Face Lawsuits,& Felonies

Bloggers are being attacked left and right now.

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