Old World Secrets the Omega Project Codes

Originally posted by rtcctr
What if the only part of the book u should heed is genisis 16-17.... knowledge is evil.

Why is it children under 5 and ppl ready to die can see the spirits ... children under 5 ,it because they haven't learned anything but to eat when they r hungry ....Unfortunately the way the laws are we have to teach our children so they can cope with society.

The only way to get right with Ea is forget everything and let him guide you

Yes this world is in for a big spanking ,When the sh%t hits the fan forget everything and he will protect you

Knowledge is both good and evil. As the bible says in Genesis, we are to become like god, knowing both good and evil. It is shown as evil in the bible, because as you were already good, the new side you were getting was the evil.

You are already here, so you are past the point of staying ignorant. Thus why you were removed from the garden, to protect the tree of life. So that you did not destroy it during your time of ignorance while learning both good and evil. Or to put it in modern terms, why we are confined to the earth, and can't go around the entire universe.

You could always be hot, and you could always be cold. But you will never understand the difference between the 2 unless you experienced both. After you have experienced both, you can then have the knowledge and understanding to choose if you wish to be hot or cold. And once you learn the difference between good and evil, you can then choose to return to "good".

If you are ignorant and moving without direction, then you will be pushed into the directions that suit someone elses purposes.

reply to post by badmedia

Most of the things you mention to prove your points are not even real. They are things that people believe are there for them but in all reality they are not, they are an illusion set up to control people, a false hope. I have no problem with you pushing your thoughts but if you think everybody out there knows about this trust me they dont and if you are not trying to tell them then you are helping to keep them slaves...

i understand exactly what badmedia is trying to say

but i dont think you get it badmedia, Brandon's purpose isnt to show these meanings for what they really are

he was meant to show everything he already has in his books, i realize that yes it is one sided like the other side of a coin

but... i think that only the true deserving people, the type of people who look past the coin and look instead at the thumb that flips it, the people who are smart or intelligent enough to actually find the true meaning for THEMSELVES,

That is not Brandon's purpose as you must understand

Originally posted by badmedia

Originally posted by rtcctr
What if the only part of the book u should heed is genisis 16-17.... knowledge is evil.

Why is it children under 5 and ppl ready to die can see the spirits ... children under 5 ,it because they haven't learned anything but to eat when they r hungry ....Unfortunately the way the laws are we have to teach our children so they can cope with society.

The only way to get right with Ea is forget everything and let him guide you

Yes this world is in for a big spanking ,When the sh%t hits the fan forget everything and he will protect you

Knowledge is both good and evil. As the bible says in Genesis, we are to become like god, knowing both good and evil. It is shown as evil in the bible, because as you were already good, the new side you were getting was the evil.

You are already here, so you are past the point of staying ignorant. Thus why you were removed from the garden, to protect the tree of life. So that you did not destroy it during your time of ignorance while learning both good and evil. Or to put it in modern terms, why we are confined to the earth, and can't go around the entire universe.

You could always be hot, and you could always be cold. But you will never understand the difference between the 2 unless you experienced both. After you have experienced both, you can then have the knowledge and understanding to choose if you wish to be hot or cold. And once you learn the difference between good and evil, you can then choose to return to "good".

If you are ignorant and moving without direction, then you will be pushed into the directions that suit someone elses purposes.

First off thank you for your post rcttcr, I hear you but badmedia you dont seem to get it. You are not even aware of who wrote the stories in the bible. You have been being nice so I take back the you are a loss thing, but you really do need to start studying more ancient texts. I know you are going to say you know all about the sumerian tabets but just in case you might want to start there.

Originally posted by Brandon Levon
reply to post by badmedia

 

Most of the things you mention to prove your points are not even real. They are things that people believe are there for them but in all reality they are not, they are an illusion set up to control people, a false hope. I have no problem with you pushing your thoughts but if you think everybody out there knows about this trust me they dont and if you are not trying to tell them then you are helping to keep them slaves...

It doesn't matter if Jesus is real. The story is real. The philosophy can be followed by anyone, and thus is real.

If we were to live in a peaceful society, how do you think people will have/need to act? They will have to follow in the footsteps of Jesus and follow his example. Where people live and let live, respecting other peoples free will etc.

To follow is not the same as to worship. To worship is to praise and pay tribute, but to follow is to repeat as the example.

It's not your attacking of the religion and people in power that I take objection to, it's the bundling of the truth within it as well.

I take the same objection with people who use the bad things the US has done and bundling it up as meaning the constitution is bad. I had a similiar argument not long ago with another author using the imagery of aliens as a way of promoting communism, with the image of what we have today as being why the constitution is wrong.

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Tankthinker Thanks for your help but badmedia there is no constitution, you are so far from the reality of what is going on in the world that you are just another puppet. You push their illusions to prove your facts resulting in people believing that their illusions are real thus keeping them inside the duality, how is that helping.

Originally posted by tankthinker
i understand exactly what badmedia is trying to say

but i dont think you get it badmedia, Brandon's purpose isnt to show these meanings for what they really are

he was meant to show everything he already has in his books, i realize that yes it is one sided like the other side of a coin

but... i think that only the true deserving people, the type of people who look past the coin and look instead at the thumb that flips it, the people who are smart or intelligent enough to actually find the true meaning for THEMSELVES,

That is not Brandon's purpose as you must understand

On a higher level I do understand. On a higher level, I'd even have to shake GWB's hand and thank him for all he has done as far as waking me up. I don't agree with him or his policies, and I could never support it. But on a higher level I do understand.

But what if I were caught up in the coin? What if I wasn't smart or intelligent enough to find the true meanings of things? And what if even now I'm not getting it all? I would surely hope someone would atleast try to help me understand. And I hope they would not give up on me very easily either.

It wasn't too long ago that I was caught up in that coin. I remember it.

And you can look at the thumb that flips it. But rather than looking at that thumb, I look at how and why it is flipped, and why it is allowed to be flipped. It doesn't matter to me who flips it. And as best I can see, it keeps getting flipped because of what I have been pointing out.

But sure, on a higher level the coin has to be flipped in order for people to learn. But I think it will continue to get flipped until we actually do learn why and how it is flipped.

I don't know if the earth will ever be different other than being reset. I view it as a school in the universe, 1 of many. But then we start getting into consciousness, and how the body is just a possession etc.

Originally posted by Brandon Levon
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Tankthinker Thanks for your help but badmedia there is no constitution, you are so far from the reality of what is going on in the world that you are just another puppet. You push their illusions to prove your facts resulting in people believing that their illusions are real thus keeping them inside the duality, how is that helping.

You think I don't know the constitution isn't being followed? There is a constitution, the fact it isn't being followed doesn't mean it isn't real. The principles and the system laid out in it are real.

It's made as a document of limited government. It was then manipulated into a government of limited and few listed rights. Those few and listed rights keep getting smaller and smaller, and is now completely ignored as long as certain things can be thrown on the situation.

Exactly what illusion am I pushing?

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You keep pushing things to prove your point but you do not yet fully understand how these things really work. I could understand if I was on the level that you are as to what you are trying to say but I am not. I know who has been flipping the coin, when they are going to flip the coin and why they are going to flip it. I also know when it is flipped you will be forced to choose sides and there aint no way you can talk yourself out of it...You try to tell these people they dont understand your philosophy and their going to put a bullet in your head.................
Wake up! This is a history class not a philosophy class.


[edit on 3-10-2008 by Brandon Levon]

Originally posted by Brandon Levon
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You keep pushing things to prove your point but you do not yet fully understand how these things really work. I could understand if I was on the level that you are as to what you are trying to say but I am not. I know who has been flipping the coin, when they are going to flip the coin and why they are going to flip it. I also know when it is flipped you will be forced to choose sides and there aint no way you can talk yourself out of it...You try to tell these people they dont understand your philosophy and their going to put a bullet in your head.................
Wake up! This is a history class not a philosophy class.


[edit on 3-10-2008 by Brandon Levon]

Death is inevitable. You can't avoid it. As such, it doesn't in the least bother me if someone puts a bullet to my head. I won't be becoming the evil myself. I won't be wasting my death.

I will not have to choose sides. Because the 2 sides you are talking about are the same side. The people who flip the coin will be on both sides. That IS the game. Red team, blue team. To make people believe there is only 2 sides, the 2 sides that will be presented and those 2 sides will fight it out, and the PTB will determine the winner as always.

Why are they able to do it? Because both sides are wrong. They are exactly the same in philosophy. 2 sides seeking the same piece of meat. Kill or be killed, rather than live and let live. It's a farse.

So when those of you who represent the other side of the coin get enough weight, it'll flip and while you claim to be against it all, you will be following the status quo. No different than when the coin flips with the democrats and the republicans. Neither represents change, just more of the same. Just as you do with the focus on image.

It's like you are trying to tell me I can only choose a republican or a democrat, and I will be forced to those. And that I should choose 1 or the other, because nobody is going to listen to me when I point out they are both alike. And that I'm just "wasting" my vote.

I don't care if nobody agrees with me. I don't care if I am the only one standing up for the right thing. The amount of people who do the things they do has no bearing on what is right.

While you can call me ignorant and what not for not joining your side, I frankly do not care. What I care about is how I conduct myself and what philosophy I live by.

What level do you think you are on btw? Levels are merely the size of the persepective.

I mean if you want to get to the highest levels, then the universe is static. Where all possibilities are laid out and played out. When you are all knowing and omni potent, everything is known and as such change never happens.

When you create a limited perception then you are allowed the illusion of time, and a time line. But the time line is not the boundaries of the universe, but simply the boundaries of the current perception.

You change dimensions as time moves forward. That is what time is, the change of dimensions. 1 second you are in a dimension known as 10:02 and 21 seconds, the next you are in one known as 10:02 and 22 seconds. The linear measurement is just a measurement we use to understand.

While you see the universe as being 1 film strip, I see the universe as being multiple film strips. Where the linear illusion is merely the path you took across these. As you make choices about things, you change the path you are on. This is easy to see in terms of physical. If you go out and murder someone, you will go down the film path where you are in prison etc. If you do not go out and murder someone, then you go down the film path where you are not. Both exist, it's a matter of which choice you make.

As the choices you make effect the path you get, then that is where philosophy comes in. In order to make good and correct choices, you need to actually understand what you are exactly doing. So when I see 2 sides following the same philosophy, I do not see them as being different. I see them leading down the same film.

As there is a path which is made out, I make sure I am on the correct path. Which was taught to me outside the bible. As I am not getting my teachings from those who wrote the bible, then how is it possible that I am being manipulated by him.

If I take a path where I kill or be killed, then I am going to go down a path that I don't want to be on. Even if the side I choose "wins", I still lose. Because I continue to live in a world that believes power is king. And who is to blame other than myself? As I brought it on and fought for it. The ends do not justify the means, the means have always defined the ends.

When you want to get somewhere, you plan a path for it. If you want to do something as simple as get something out of the fridge, you visualize a path to the fridge, and then you walk that path. What path am I taking if I think I need to kill those who disagree with me, or are not like me? Where am I going?

At some point someone has to stand up and say - this is screwed up. Both sides are pretty much alike, just different in image and perspective. If both sides would take the time to look at things from both perspectives, they could then see both sides are of the same coin.

And you have lost your mind if you think petty things such as telling me I am a puppet, that I must be an agent for them, or that I am not on the same level is going to change my mind. You are going to need logic, and a much broader perspective of the universe.

No fighting needed, no sides. Just a choice. Kill or be killed, live and let live, or the ever popular option of letting everyone else choose for you. Which do you wish to live in?

[edit on 4-10-2008 by badmedia]

Badmedia I find it pretty funny when you say that it doesn't matter whether Jesus was real or not, yet you still worship him and his ideals.

Now I'm not saying whether he was real or not but, the point is that, the most powerful 'aspect' of Jesus's passion or whatever it is you call it, is the fact that he was the son of God. This is the most powerful point of all of Christianity/Catholicism because it PROVES to believers of these religions that God actually cares for the human race and that he DOES actually come down to earth and intervene to help us, he's not the spiteful and nonchalant, uncaring god, but he brought his only son down here to sacrifice for YOU and for everyone. But when you say that it doesn't matter that Jesus existed or not, well you're killing off 90% of the meaning and signficance of all religion and the bible.

Now, on the other hand, there's one point that I could possibly see. I have an open mind and don't like to make definitive beliefs on one thing or another. Brandon says that Jesus isn't real and never lived and the bible is fake. I do agree that the bible is fake because even the pope won't tell you that Jesus wrote the bible because he didn't, in fact mortal men wrote the bible and all but one of them never even met Jesus from what I can recall. If someone can confirm that to me but I remember reading that only St Paul (I think) met Jesus and the rest of the writers of the bible did not. In fact it's doubtful that anyone in the bible even met him if he did in fact even exist to begin with.
Now I agree on one point with badmedia that, IF Jesus did exist, then the bible and the subsequent rise of organized religion is a farcical and evil twisting of his teachings. It's been a long while since I've studied the bible and practiced religion but I seem to recall that Jesus himself said that he does not want to be worshipped in the way he is now with a giant organized church/religion. This is the reason for the protestant reformation and many other such splinter groups because they got sick and tired of the true word being twisted by modern practitioners. Super wealthy pedophile popes living lavishly under the most prodigal conditions, fathering multiple illegitimate children from countless prepubescent under age girls. This is the story of 'organized' religion, and Jesus would have 'over turned' the tables on this farce and probably spit in their face.
So with that said I think there's 2 ways of looking at this.
1. Jesus existed and yet it was the evil men that Brandon speaks about that twisted and contorted his words and teachings and created the modern evil empire known as organized religion or
2. Jesus never existed and he is a creation by these same evil men for whatever nefarious purposes and designs that they aspire to.

Brandon, you obviously subscribe to your own #2, but I am curious do you give any credence to the possibility that #1 is true instead?

[edit on 4-10-2008 by rufusdrak]

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Hey Brandon and all,

Thank you for the warm reply and answers to my questions. I understand now that the reptilians are one n the same infamous watchers.

I am glad you agree with David Icke as I see a lot of what he is teaching portrayed in your book too; he just presents more data where you give people a door to walk through and discover these truths for themselves and like you stated before that there was just to much data involved in backing up everything little thing stated in your book; I think we would have the new bible.

Here are the links for those who want to see David Icke “Secrets of the Matrix”.
I recommend the third one; it is immensely empowering and dam me if he is not right; we have already won; the awakening is taking place; the knowledge/ truth already has gained a life of its own and is spreading likening to a virus through the system; a virus of truth.

David Icke Matrix Secrets PT1
David Icke Matrix Secrets PT2
David Icke Matrix Secrets PT3

Just imagine when the whole succumbs to the truth and we truly operate as one……. Dam me if we don’t live in exciting times. I feel this turn of our wheel is different to previous turn dues to the fact that man is in a position to make use of the knowledge that Jesus was trying to portray “The Kingdom of Heaven can indeed fit inside that of a mustard seed”. We can truly understand this now.

I just want to mention a little bit about my dreams; they are few and far between and I do not have them often; sleep for me is more like being dead; I close my eyes then it is morning (this is always how it has been my whole life) but I do have them now and then and they are always about light and darkness; good and evil, positive and negative… whatever yanks your chain.

I am always of the light and for some unknown reason always have strangers with me, rarely anyone I know or place I know.
They always involve me going against the darkness or journeying into the darkness to rescue these people or I am within the darkness already and I have to bring these people out. There is sometimes fear involved but like in the waking world I am able to box it off and operate normally. I DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE ALLOW FEAR TO RULE ME. FEAR IS A JOKE PLAYED ON MAN.

Are they real?? Of course they are and to argue different is stupid; our brain makes it real, it simply does no know the difference.
What do they mean I don’t know other than it is more than likely my sub-conscious trying to tell me what is going on but either way the message is clear; the darkness never wins.

What sticks out at me is that we are now able to learn and understand these truths about the mind and our so called reality and through certain plant extracts are able to experience these other realities but it seems only a few are able to break out of this programming so my question for you is why are we not seeing more people breaking these rules Neo style?

Allow me to put it like this; we truth seekers know that this world around us is not this rock solid thing we take for granted but something else; air for want of a better word so why cannot we master these things and punch through walls, dodge bullets etc??

It seems to be we are in a stage of knowing but not accepting so we believe these things on the surface but of yet have not transmuted them it to our core beliefs hence enabling us to walk on water etc.

What do you think and sorry for firing questions at you but as a whole I am sure we can figure this out; that means all of us attending ATS for the purpose of seeking truth and not to spread dis-info or some other agenda.

Oh and one last questions for those who happen to read my post (and you Brandon) while at school I did very poorly (not that it means anything LMAO) but I found upon leaving school my intelligence suddenly blossomed like a veil had been lifted from my eyes and I was now able to learn what is truly important; like I had almost been shielded from the S**T they try to force down your throat in those brainwashing plants.
I don’t believe this only happened to me and just for those that care about such things I did an IQ test and it was like 140 to 150 (cant remember exactly) but either way it was above average so I can find no other reason as to why I did so poorly at school.

Who else can relate to this?

Thanks all for taking the time to read and to you Brandon for taking the time to reply.
Peace all.

Rufusdrak if you go back and read what I have stated before you will see we have identical beliefs in what you stated, I believe both 1 and 2. The reason why the book was written was because when I almost died I saw a face of a guy that looked like Jesus and at the time I was pretty sure it was him telling me that I was not going to like what happened to me if I died now and he gave me information which led me to these things that I speak. Now do I believe this was Jesus? I am not sure at the present I think it is just as likely that this being was presented to me in a way that I would understand at the time.

Badmedia you ask what level I am, before this happened I thought like you… Hell I even sounded like you but just because you choose to die doesn’t mean that it is right. If you choose to die that effects people in your family who you could have helped whom do not want to die, you are giving up their choice of eternal life.

I was instructed to let these people know that there are more choices than what has been presented to them. There are more than 2 sides, there is a third as I keep saying and that is the side that allows our families to have a choice of eternal life on earth which you seem to not understand, you are just leading people to the end of life without a choice.

You state things like “I don’t always approve of what GWB does but” You don’t get it he is a descendant of the writers of the bible, McCain is his cousin and Obama is connected to the same people by marriage, they are all different races and all different colors. These people are put into place just so they can sign the bills needed to make sure your family dies and theirs live….. If you want your family to die then why are you posting here because this book is about trying to save us?

One more thing I will add is you keep saying it is the Philosophy of Jesus and that is what the world would have to be like. You need to clear that up because are you talking about the philosophy of Jesus of the Bible which happens at the end of every age of the zodiac just before the cross and disaster, because they need us to be civil so we will build what they need to survive the disasters or did you even know that this happens approximately every six thousand years.

Since everything you learn in school and everything you see on TV and everything in the bible is all that has been allowed to be let programmed into our minds and is not the truth, please tell me about the Jesus that you know because you sound a hell of a lot like me before I saw someone that looked just like him.

Oh and another question, what do you think his new name will be as stated in the bible when the age changes?

Weareone, why can’t we break free? By the time we get to the point that we are getting truly spiritually aware not biblically, the age changes, they switch gods and create such immense hate toward one another that people do not even start to realize what they have done till the age that is represented by gods Like Jesus. And this is only allowed because they need us to survive. Everything has been set up so that by the time we figure out that there are all of these truly spiritual realms right in front of our faces the disasters hit and erase our knowledge, kill most off and who ever and whatever is left, they burn and kill until we worship the new god. They put everything into place so that we do not know where to look to find an escape, kind of like the movie the matrix…

They keep us so confused with their programs we never really have time to understand one another but only have time to assume. Like I state Christians are being used, to most that means obviously I do not believe in Jesus, when in fact it is very possible that there was many people not the son of the evil god but many people who have tried to teach us of how to escape what they have done, to me that is Jesus, not the program they have given us till the end of the age…..But the knowledge that was given to me by the god that looked like his picture….What badmedia is not understanding is that if people do not know how these cycles work they will never be able to have the chance to reach the level that he is stating.

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Weareone, I just wanted to thank you for the links, I just got done watching part three as you recommended and I had not seen it before, I must have only seen part one. After I was done I reread what I had posted and I see where you get the connection between us, kind of freaky to say the least.

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well for those people caught up, its because they want to be caught up they arent strong enough to let themselves out of the system and so they should be left behind in my opinion

everyone who is on this site has at least taken the first step to getting out, that is something everyone on ATS has in common.

i just think that people who read magazines about Britney's new stupid activities or sit there watching the news and never thinking for themselves just taking it all in, deserve to get whats coming to them


btw i dont look at the finger thats flipping the coin, that would be the first step, im a a point were i look at the type of wood the table is were the coin is going to land.

For anyone who is interested and I hope we are, here is the new Zeitgeist movie. I have not yet had time to watch it so I do not know what it contains but I am sure it is worth watching. video.google.com...

Originally posted by rufusdrak
Badmedia I find it pretty funny when you say that it doesn't matter whether Jesus was real or not, yet you still worship him and his ideals.

Now I'm not saying whether he was real or not but, the point is that, the most powerful 'aspect' of Jesus's passion or whatever it is you call it, is the fact that he was the son of God. This is the most powerful point of all of Christianity/Catholicism because it PROVES to believers of these religions that God actually cares for the human race and that he DOES actually come down to earth and intervene to help us, he's not the spiteful and nonchalant, uncaring god, but he brought his only son down here to sacrifice for YOU and for everyone. But when you say that it doesn't matter that Jesus existed or not, well you're killing off 90% of the meaning and signficance of all religion and the bible.

I do not worship "Jesus" I follow the philosophy.

I am a son of god. You are a son of god, we are all god. We are the observer. What you are referring to is not the teachings of Jesus, it is the teachings of the religion that worships the image of Jesus. There is a difference in the religion of Jesus, and the religion about Jesus. I subscribe the religion of Jesus, not the religion about Jesus.

Gotta quit quoting here. But it doesn't matter if Jesus is real or not IMO. The philosophy and understanding is real. I know, because I have experienced the connections and things he speaks about.

For example. If I make up a few characters. I tell a story using those characters. And 1 of those characters murders the others. Is murder suddenly false because I made up the characters? Are the principles and understanding of why murder is wrong also fake?

That is why it doesn't matter to me if Jesus is real or not. Even if he is real, he is still just the character. It isn't right because Jesus said it. It's right because of logic and understanding. Even if he is real, then he was merely here to pass along that information.

Badmedia you ask what level I am, before this happened I thought like you… Hell I even sounded like you but just because you choose to die doesn’t mean that it is right. If you choose to die that effects people in your family who you could have helped whom do not want to die, you are giving up their choice of eternal life.

No, you are not on the same level as me, nor have you been. I do not care about eternal life. I do not do anything I do because I am expecting rewards for doing it, or punishment if I don't. I do not act out of fear, for the bible or otherwise. I have no fear.

I do not choose to die. I choose to stand up and do what is right. I am merely willing to accept any consequences that may have. And I would also never take away anyones free will. That goes against my universal law. And as I would never kill another person, I am not giving up anyone's choice of eternal life.

The only thing that dies is the body anyway. You are totally ignoring consciousness.

I was instructed to let these people know that there are more choices than what has been presented to them. There are more than 2 sides, there is a third as I keep saying and that is the side that allows our families to have a choice of eternal life on earth which you seem to not understand, you are just leading people to the end of life without a choice.

Instructed by who? I have never once been instructed to do anything. Not once. I was merely given a more clear perspective of the universe and the true nature of things. It is even my choice to be here now, I was asked if I wanted to leave 2 years ago.

You do not represent a third choice. You represent the same choice as the ones you point fingers at.

You state things like “I don’t always approve of what GWB does but” You don’t get it he is a descendant of the writers of the bible, McCain is his cousin and Obama is connected to the same people by marriage, they are all different races and all different colors. These people are put into place just so they can sign the bills needed to make sure your family dies and theirs live….. If you want your family to die then why are you posting here because this book is about trying to save us?

You know, it's pretty pathetic that you keep treating me as if I'm the typical christian. I tell you I didn't get my knowledge from the bible, I seen it repeated. I said I agreed and understood the way things have been manipulated by those people. I say these things over and over, and then you treat me like I'm some cross wearing christian who supports GWB. If you can't even be honest with this stuff here, how am I to expect you to be honest elsewhere? All you do is point fingers at people, and then try to suggest because they are wrong, you must be right. And then you continue to group people into that same herd.

I would never support GWB. The reason I would thank him is because he showed me the evil. He taught me the truth about the leaders and such. I was asleep until the things he did woke me up. While revelations is billed off as being doomsday, it really means to reveal truths. Just look at the definition of revelations. What do you think it means for the veil of deception to be lifted? Will people try to make it happen, so that they can try and get their power by manipulating people before it is lifted? Absolutely.

One more thing I will add is you keep saying it is the Philosophy of Jesus and that is what the world would have to be like. You need to clear that up because are you talking about the philosophy of Jesus of the Bible which happens at the end of every age of the zodiac just before the cross and disaster, because they need us to be civil so we will build what they need to survive the disasters or did you even know that this happens approximately every six thousand years.

I said to the other guy, I am not someone who follows the religion ABOUT Jesus. I follow the religion OF Jesus. You say you have been in my shoes, repeating what I said. But yet you don't seem to see the above as even existing. I did NOT get my knowledge from the bible. I have NOT at any point in this thread tried to quote the bible as a source of authority. I do NOT need it. I got my knowledge directly, and I was never told the name Jesus, I never seen the image of Jesus and I never got the first hint to anything important having to do with that. What I did get as important were the understandings of the things. It was only after the fact of what I learned that I seen it repeated in the bible.

I'm well aware of the zodiac. I am an Ophiuchus, born in the year of the dragon and all that other image jazz. I am well aware of the ages. I am well aware of all the IMAGE worshiping in the bible. I am also well aware this isn't the first, second or third time civilization has advanced. I listen to other religions and prophecies too, I find them interesting. I know all about the end of the age, and the start of the new age in Aquarius.