Sit-X.. Plague..

Hmm I would still stick to the plan posted above.

But also enact a quarantine zone around the shelter that I build. Lethal force used to stop entry and possible contamination perhaps? It seems harsh, but it would be the only choice.

Well either way i look at it, i am in # city ..... I am a nurse. My 'other half' is in even a worse state as she works on an isolation ward. But then again, I am more likely to get protective suit issued and among the first 'keyworkers' to be given a vaccine should one be found.

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Respect for the job you guys do.


I'm in awe of people who can put themselves in harms way to SAVE other people rather than to injure them(anti -army/establishment showing there )

I'd have to agree with your assessment though.. You're up poopoo creek without a paddle if your ward was the first ones to take in an unknown deadly disease with a high degree of contagion such as this theoretical one..

I work in public places in contact with up to 10,000 people so I'd have to IMMEDIATELY reconsider that even in a low risk situation..

The key here is making a decision FAST..and hoping luck is on your side..
I've always avoided 'city' careers for the very reason that it is the last place I would want to be in ANY kind of disaster..
I can take chances with my own bad decisions but dealing with other's panic is out of my 'mindset'/comfort zone..

Two great books that follow your post are

1. "The Stand" Steven King

2. "Rainbow Six" Tom Clancey

My question is, if the virus was man made by lets say the NWO to kill off population and they have a cure for it. You would think that the vaccine made available to the general public would work. What a great way to make sure everyone got sick.......by distributing a vaccine that gives you the virus anyways. People would be rushing to get this said vaccine. Leaving the global elite with the only working vaccine to themselves.

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'The Stand' is AWESOME.. M-O-O-N spells moon..


You've elaborated on a topic already mentioned here and it's presenting an even scarier outlook..

As well as the possibility of using nukes to waste large cities for control..
There is also the possibility that the 'CURE' they say they have 'just found' for this lethal plague would actually be a faster action bio-weapon or even basic poison to kill off as many 'infectees' as possible..thus preventing you walking around and infecting others..

Hey it's in your 'best interest' they'd make these decisions.. Oh Yeah.. as well as making it safer for them..

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Well I would go to my property in the midwest which is sitting on 17 acres in the middle of nowhere. I would do that immediately. Second I would get signs up anyone who enters my property that is not know will be shot on sight. I know it sucks but I really would do this if it comes to saving me and my family. I would not let anyone on my property because they could be infected. I have about a 2 to 3 month worth of supplies so that leaves me with 3 months I have to figure something out. hmmm.

I would have to hunt and really buckle down on the food. Live off my garden and really be frugal. Keep track of the news and when an all good is given go to town and stock up. If this goes on for a year I am SOL. it will be hard to survive an additional 9 months without going to town and getting supplies. If I had plenty of prepare time I would obviously get at least 6 months to a year worth of goods but if was immediate hmm..

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As much as i'd hate to admit it, this is probably one of the possible scenarios that would make me take a "survival of the fittest" (for lack of a better word) mentality - i'd start by prioritising my goals mentally and sticking to them as if they were the absolute conditions for my continued survival.

I mean - They are, really.

Now, assuming i'm sitting in my home when i see that news report, i'd stay very still for a few minutes, calmly processing the information and considering the best opportunities for survival, and then lock my doors and start boarding up the windows.

I'd give it a full two or three weeks before even considering moving location - and even if i had no food, i'd have a kettle to boil water with - assuming the water/power companies don't instantly collapse.

To all intents and purposes, i'm already dead to the world.

At some point during the third week, i'd make myself a meal that i kept especially so i'd have some strength for the execution of the actions i would take to secure myself against possible threats - including the plague.

The time would be night, when it was as dark as it would get, when i would be free make my move.

To anyone living in the immediate area, they won't notice a thing.


My first priority would be to get out of the population centre, and seeing as i live near the coast, my best bet would probably be the open seas.

Ideally, i'd find a decent sized vessel but not so big a single man can't operate it from the engine room, and wait it out on one of the shipping lanes until the navy decided it was time to give me an official briefing of the situation.

In realistic terms of course, the chance of finding a ship just tied to the dock waiting for me to come along and start her up is remarkably slim, and i'd probably have more chance of finding a private jet on an airstrip in the same scenario.

Transport will be a difficult thing to procure for personal use.

Perhaps i'm simply placing too much importance on getting away from the problem - after all it's a global catastrophe, so running away will just get me into more trouble most likely.

It really does seem as if this requires a localised solution, one which would mean countless rambo-style traps and punji-pits, with a single path through them all that only i would know.

Hell, maybe i'd be able to find a little island in the middle of a lake or something, and start putting spiked railings at the bottom of it.

This isn't so much a problem of something trying to kill you, but something that will kill you if you happen to be in the immediate vicinity.

My only other option would be to try and find a group which was seeking to find a cure - at the very least my remaining days on the planet would be spent trying to do something positive, but i suspect that such groups possessed of that kind of drive will be few and far between.

And of course, groups mean social politics - even if i decided to get overly involved it's likely i would be viewed as nothing more than a tool.

Well, as always - i'm left with two choices;

Do i go and try and find help, or do i wait for the help to come to me?

Originally posted by Anti-Tyrant

Now, assuming i'm sitting in my home when i see that news report, i'd stay very still for a few minutes, calmly processing the information and considering the best opportunities for survival, .

This actually gave me a chill..

A couple of years back I was stuck 4th floor in a fire..I was in the shower when I was aware of a 'change' in my surroundings.. Towelled up I went to the door,nothing through the keyhole. so I opened it to be faced with impassable dense smoke.Highly toxic and suffocating.

And I did exactly what you described..
After the initial adrenaline overload I weighed up the situation in complete silence....
Total self protection mode...
Totally faced with two decisions... stay or go..

Against my 'better' judgement I went...
On one side was the fact that fire services would definitely arrive at some stage..But relying on others has NEVER been successful in my experience..

Sure enough my 'better/logical judgement' would have proved to be my end as the fire truck ended up in an estate on the opposite side of the motorway in rush hour traffic..

Smoke inhalation/lacerations and a broken L1 vertebrae later, I was outside the building..
It was probably the most uplifting,'freeing' experience of my life..
I went totally with survival instinct against logic and it served me well.

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I'm pretty sure I know that I would do exactly the same thing in any further situations.
IN SIT_X PLAGUE You would be tempted to go loot food,meds,weapons and barricade yourself in your house as long as humanly possible..Wait for help/a cure..
Logic points to this..
But I think I would take a similar route to yours..
I'm 3 miles from a small harbour and I LOVE the sea..
I'm afraid I'd hotwire the biggest boat available and set a course north for some of the more isolated islands off the north of scotland.

I hear it's very picturesque during plague season

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I'll admit hijacking a boat and loading up with a few dozen of bottles of spirits did occur to me.

Good thing about a boat though is that it can take you to other boats - specifically - marine research vessels, which will undoubtedly have some sort of ingenious bloke sitting there with an electro-microscope trying to sort out the problem.

If someone does come up with a cure (or even, a vaccine) i'd want to be damn near when they decided to start putting it into manufacturing assembly.

At least that way i'd be able to stop worrying about the damn plague, among other things.

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By the way, i did a fire fighting and prevention course for my marine training, and trust me - you made the right choice.

What happens in most fires is that people die of smoke inhalation rather than the actual fire - and the problem is that the room fills with the stuff - if you'd stayed where you were you would eventually have been stuck in a room with nothing but carbon monoxide in it.

The fire hazards that are presented by modern day architecture are astonishingly negligent - a single fire caused by a cigarette butt can quite easily spread throughout an entire residential complex.

It's terrifying to think of what would happen if we didn't have a fire-service on standby.

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Hehe..Well I think I had my last fire related Op in January..Unless I go for the titanium lego brick in the spine one to 'bypass' the smashed vertabrae but I don't fancy that one and the Gym/physio is going strong anyhoo..

Even after all this I was glad I 'went' too..
Cheers.. It's nice to know the 'wrong' decision was actually the right one.


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Actually it's pretty good weather up North while all the southeys are getting rained on,So I'm gonna take a trip down to the harbour tomorrow and check out any suitable 'sit_x' boats..
I'll jot down the make of them and scour the net for user manuals

Doesn't even have to be a plague.. I'm pretty sure with UK's shrinking navy they won't be interested in a sailing dinghy making it's way to whatever sit_X suitable location...
Hell I might even invest in my own come to that..

Can you get a mortgage for a boat?

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It's unlikely you'll get anything cheap, unless you're looking for a nice little fishing vessel (which you'll need the associated papers/training for in order to use).

My plan kinda hinges on the fact that there'd be no one around when i decided to twoc a ship.

I might stop by the port, if i'm left with no other option...

Originally posted by Anti-Tyrant
My plan kinda hinges on the fact that there'd be no one around when i decided to twoc a ship.

(Mine too..Shhhhhhh
I'm only trying to cover myself legally here.. )

"YES BOATS ARE GOOD.. I THINK I'LL BUY ONE.. *cough*"


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Back to the sit_x I don't know the logistics of stocking up supplies if you tried to sail it for any distance.. One run with a loaded up vehicle is probably all I'd risk before someone figured out what was going down.

You don't want to be making multiple trips,loading up the boat with your valuable supplies,if someone was watching and waiting for you to make one last trip.. Boom and they're off with your plan and your supplies.

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That's why i'd want a decent sized boat.

A life-boat would work wonders for off-shore resource shuttling, and can be hoisted back onto the ship once you're done.

Course', that's a tricky job to do all by yourself.

Hmmm, seems to me that Scotland and its islands are gonna be pretty full of people during sit x.