Egyptian statue on mars?

Originally posted by cruzion looks like the upper torso an Egyptian statue! Well woop de friggin doo. I will agree that the likeness is pretty amusing, but that's about it.

Well thank you for confirming that even skeptics DO see the Egyptian statue.

So that completely rules out "You see what you want to see..." Egyptian statue! No pareidolia here... we ALL see the statue and that, despite what it might be... does make it a very valid, and interesting, anomaly

It's hardly proof of an alien civilisation on Mars.

Don't recall the OP presenting it as such. Perhaps you were readiong a different thread

What it is proof of, is that there are some people with far too much free time on their hands. Combine that with an almost scary level of "I want to believe" syndrome, and we have one of the basis for why the general public laughs at the stereotypical conspiracy theorist. Seriously, I mean, I hate to take a dump on the table at your celebration dinner, but stuff like this does way more harm than you realize.

Harm? To whom? And it seems YOU have far too much free time on YOUR hands to tell us what we should and should not do with our free time...

Perhaps though, you would be kind enough to SHOW us what you consider PROPER conspiracy theorist behaviour and please show me YOUR contribution to the field other than wasting time telling us how dumb we are.

Even worse is that some of you wonder why you're not taken seriously,

Actually I AM taken very seriously by a great number of people and some that would make your jaw drop... People like you on the other hand continue to make blanket statements that fit your little world and never step out of your room and talk to the 'real' world

They don't show it because it is not particularly newsworthy.

They don't show it because they are told NOT to... and as a matter of fact mainstream news IS INDEED changing their tune...

NOVA did a great piece on secret astronauts and secret space stations... with interviews of the people involved and lots of data that can be verified...

We have been saying this exist for years... I consider NOVA to be mainstream

Fox news has been accused repeatedly as being the worst offender for not taking UFO's seriously... and people say "I will believe it when I see it on CNN

Well that day is here... Debunk THIS if you can

UFOs - FOX News - Mexican Air Force - CNN News




And I REALLY MUST THANK YOU for this post!!!!! Because if I had not done a search for Moon Anomalies in Mainstream News on Google I would NEVER have found THIS

HEY MIKE SINGH !!!! We made made mainstream news in Australia!!! They even used our clips.... your Mars tracks and my rolling 'boulder' on the moon

www.australia.to...


Pegasus Page
www.thelivingmoon.com...

ATS Thread
Mysterious ‘Tracks’ On Mars And The Moon!
www.abovetopsecret.com...

What it did confirm for me, is that there are indeed aliens* on this planet.

*an alien being someone who is either extremely gullible, has no common sense, is deliberately misleading, or will just make up stuff for the sake of attention, or a combination of all four.

And the contribution value to this thread of that statement is what? A beacon drawing attention to your own ignorance...

:shk:

Originally posted by zorgon
IF these super res images are being 'created' by NASA to better enhance an area, WHY would they create these if it was NOT a valid way of seeing more detail?

I never said that super-resolution images are not valid, (and I had already answered that question in this post) I was only trying to explain to those people who see "tampering", "editing" and "little blurry box areas" that these are the results of the super-resolution algorithm, those things were not on the original photos and they are not signs of editing out anything.

And I do like real high-definition images,

So do I but every time I find some it seems they 'vanish'.

Yes, I remember the "TIFFs' disappearing act".

Been reading this thread (and others similar) for a few days now and it left me wondering; Could these sort of anomalies be the reason that NASA hasn't yet sent a manned mission back to the Moon, a first mission to Mars, a mission of any type to any other celestial body?(save your jokes:lol
If you have wondered about there ever being life on Mars, could NASA be seeing the same things we are, and more, and decided to use BS excuses until they get it figured out?
OP; this, in my opinion, is a terrific find.
Even if it turns out to be "just rocks", with the limited amount of visual that we have been getting from Spirit and Opportunity, the anomolies are staggering!
Keep looking.

I think it's just coincidence again:S

Just a strange shape..

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To my knowledge, if I remember correctly, this was from a few years back. These Mexican military airplanes are fitted with IR cameras for hunting down drug smugglers and the like.

This video was included in a national geographic series called "Is it Real" in which UFO evidence was discussed and investigated. The show talked about how these IR signatures are supposedly the flames from flares of this oil platform which are constantly burning. If it was really at a far-off distance it would explain why the IR-emitting objects seem to be traveling with the aircraft (are they really? or are they stationary and in the distance?). If you watch the video you really can't tell.

But if you look at the IR signatures you can tell that directly below them you can see what look like the IR light reflecting off the water.
This could be simply explained by UFO's flying over water though just as easily as it could be explained by anything else.

The national geographic show I'm referring to really dropped the ball. They looked at some of the worst video evidence out there and when they looked at this video all they did was basically have scientists come on and say "These are not UFO's". Pretty stupid.

This shows the previously shown video footage in a little more clarity..


-ChriS

Originally posted by BlasteR
To my knowledge, if I remember correctly, this was from a few years back.

Yes 2004 says so on the Youtube post... The point is it shows mainstream media taking it seriously for a change, not the usual ridicule...

which was my point

Times are changing



NOVA, History Channel, Discovery, PBS all doing specials on such topics ...
must be making the skeptics cringe

[edit on 24-5-2008 by zorgon]

I think it's a great thing. What we've been seeing in the media and on prime time television programming are shows about all these alternative topics.. Cryptozoology, UFO's, Ghosts and the paranormal, etc..

Hopefully the study of such phenomenon can finally come out of the dark ages after all this time.

I disagree with alot of people on what "pseudoscience" actually implies. IMO the scientists call these topics pseudoscientific because there is ,largely, a lack of true scientific evidence. The whole reason people investigating such topics are average joes (Jason and grant from Ghosthunters are plumbers for example) is because noone else will do this type of work. Jason and Grant, for example, had their own run-ins with the paranormal and they decided to make a turn for the better and help people who had the same problems they did in the past.

But the only reason there is a lack of true scientific evidence or scientific scrutiny altogether is because the scientists are the ones who, for the most part, refuse to do the research and science in the first place because of fear. Fear of ridicule, losing their credibility among their peers, losing future grants, etc...

But IMO the entire ignorance of these topics within the scientific community is largely because of denial. Sometimes scientific discoveries are made which challenge the status quo of current scientific understanding. Look at all the times in history that people were thought crazy for their ideas and research. Yet because of that willingness to challenge the status quo we have airplanes, spacecraft, and all these amazing technological gadgets (although some of the more important technological advances ever are due to military and Industrial R&D for NASA).

Hopefully people will begin to see that it isn't so crazy after all to understand that some of these phenomenon could very well be real. These are 2 of my favorite clips from GH (Not to change the subject)




-ChriS

Originally posted by BlasteR Jason and Grant, for example, had their own run-ins with the paranormal and they decided to make a turn for the better and help people who had the same problems they did in the past.

What gets me about thenm is they are hunting ghosts and run scared everytime something goes 'bump"

But remember the power of flight? The scientists said 'impossible' the wright Bros were bicycle mechanics that new nothing bout airplanes... so they didn't know it was impossible..

But the only reason there is a lack of true scientific evidence or scientific scrutiny altogether is because the scientists are the ones who, for the most part, refuse to do the research and science in the first place because of fear. Fear of ridicule, losing their credibility among their peers, losing future grants, etc...

Yup you won't get a paycheck for wacky ideas... ever notice that major discoveries are made by accident by those who don't know any better? And most true inventors die broke because they went ahead without getting the grants

Look at Tesla few people today even know who he is or what he did... but without him their would be no electricity in your homes, no ignition coil in your car, and no radios for Marconi to steal

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Originally posted by zorgon
What gets me about thenm is they are hunting ghosts and run scared everytime something goes 'bump"

But remember the power of flight? The scientists said 'impossible' the wright Bros were bicycle mechanics that new nothing bout airplanes... so they didn't know it was impossible..

I completely agree with you except for the part where the people hunting ghosts run scared everytime something goes bump. Shows like Most Haunted and others are truly like this. The entire basis of the show is for entertainment value and scare factor. The actual investigation is not focused on but, rather, the "psychics" and the table tipping and the seances are all supposedly their forms of evidence. That doesn't make any sense at all nor will it convince a skeptic..

One of the down sides of the scientists not being in the loop is you get all these people who have all these different opinions of what evidence of the paranormal truly is. You have to keep it as down to earth as possible though IMO and approach it from the standpoint of going in to find tangible evidence you can share with the world (i.e. video evidence, audio evidence, and personal experiences captured on film). That is critical. That's what the GH have basically been doing this whole time. When something goes bump they run towards the disturbance and do their best to debunk it.

Debunking what people report is going on is critical to discerning what is paranormal and what isn't. If the evidence backs up or supports the claims of activity that were reported, that evidence is then much more meaningful. If it can't be debunked, it could very possibly be paranormal.

Keeping the field of paranormal investigation professional and methodical is not so easy when you have all this fraud, all these fake psychics (not saying all psychics are fake necessarily), all these people profiting off investigations, all these people doing seances, tabletipping and working with Ouija boards, and all this general disarray of believers gone wild.

You gotta keep it objective as possible. In other words you have to exclude these stupid seances, the stupid ridiculous "nose cam" that Most Haunted has, the psychics which may be phony, and keep the investigation focused on the actual activity itself alone.

I've been astounded at what the Atlantic Paranormal Society has done in creating this mass movement of ghost hunting. There's even a ghost hunting TV show on HBO for kids now where they send the kids in alone into a supposed haunted location (which doesn't make much sense to me but hey. To all their own). Now you have these shows like "UFO Hunters", "Monster Quest", etc.. and all of them are based on finding actual scientific proof and staying objective. It's really refreshing to see..

What is most interesting to me about the evidence they have recorded on GH is that all the evidence seems to jive with past investigations. In other words they see the very same things over and over and over again and that is very important. Their approach is great and they leave it up to us to decide what we think. But some of this stuff is just insane. They have most of their stuff up on youtube. Didnt mean to go off on a tangent, but it's important to point out that not all Ghosthunting groups are frauds or self-proclaimed psychics or whatever.

I heard the world renowned physicist Michio Kaku talk on the radio about how the paranormal is based on these people doing the investigations who he claims are basically all just advocates for the paranormal. If the paranormal is real wouldn't they have to be? Noone else is doing the research! And this coming from Michio Kaku who's new book is about the very topic of parallel universes. When it comes to the paranormal the evidence should be able to speak for itself anyway, not some investigator who is trying to advocate their newest "evidence".

-ChriS


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So I have heard rumors about a wormhole possibly at the sphinx and that there is also one here in north america, that the ancients could travel to different locations with ease.

I have studied some of Hoaglands work myself and I think that with all the tetrohydral pyramids on the moon and mars link up with the Pyramid's in Giza and the constellation of Orions belt.

Hmm...

There are quite a few connections that have been made with egyptian structures and Mars photographs and doesn't that seem odd to you guys?

At the bottom of this website is a supposed "sphinx"-like statue on Mars as photographed by pathfinder..
www.enterprisemission.com...

Then you have objects on mars that look very similar to other man-made structures on earth:
www.mt.net...

These are what Hoagland believes are artificial objects captured by the "Spirit" rover on it's way to Bonnevile on Mars. (spelling?):
www.enterprisemission.com...

More "stuff" from Spirit:
www.enterprisemission.com...

These links and more can be found here:
www.enterprisemission.com...

There's literally hundreds of such photos.. (thousands?)

-ChriS


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That would totally make sense.! Do you have any links for this information?

LOVE this thread..

There was a sphinx thread somewhere on ATS a while ago, also you can check out Hoagland's book "Dark Mission" or another one I liked was "The Nephelium, The Pyramid and the Apocolypse."

But in essence, the Aztec, Maya and Egyptians were all from similar periods in history, they all built Pyramids built by slaves according to specifications of the Gods.

The actual architects of the great Pyramids knew the exact distance from the earth to the sun, the earths axis by degree etc

Also when the number 33 comes into play it is ususally referring to the lattitude 33 whether it be on earth or in the sky. They also use 19.5 and 23.5 I think.

The OP might be able to figure out the location of these artifacts, that might be helpful.

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It doesn't, if people knew all about ancient Egypt or if this was a subject that did not arouse any interest I suppose people would find connections between any other thing and Mars.

But as people still think that what they do not know how to do is impossible (that idea is not an exclusive of scientists ) they think that there must have been something esoteric in the building of the pyramids, forgetting all the other great achievements of the Egyptian architects and technicians.

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there literally ARE countless photo's. Many of them have been seen. However, the statue presented in this thread is outstanding.

now that we are going to have more rover images (from the new mnission) perhaps we will have a boost in what we find.

NASA is starting to go back on the viking "life on mars" data. This softening is intriguing, to say the least.

My only concern is how long the U of Ariz can take to release images.

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Great find! First star I've ever given. Looks quite compelling!

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Good point. I think I can kind of apply that methodology to something I talked about a couple months ago which was the supposed letter inscribed on the rock that is in this moon photo.
www.jyi.org...

Is it the letter C on a stage prop? We only see and look for what is familiar to us. If someone speaks Japanese and not English, what would they see on the rock? Or what about someone who speaks arabic and not English? If these people have never heard of the letter C then would they really think to make that link in the first place? Probably not.

Maybe if the Japanese or Arab speaking people looked at these moon and mars photos long enough they would find rocks with all kinds of stuff on them. Yet we would not even know to make that connection if we are not familiar with their languages because we would not know what to look for.

It's a rather simple thought experiment but it proves that this type of thing is completely subjective to interpretation. Since people have pointed out objects seemingly/supposedly with similarities to objects of ancient egyptian origin, would others not then try to do the same thing?

That being said however, It's quite intruiging that this paricular photo, that is the subject of this thread, looks so close to what we see in egyptian architecture. Like alot of others I'd really like to believe but I'm just not convinced yet. But these missions like MRO which constantly push the forefront of technological application give us more and more insight into what is on Mars.

But, just as I talked about last year in a different forum, the higher the resolution gets and the better the imagery gets, the more things people are going to find because there is simply more material for people to sift through. It's like if you looked at a pixelated digital photo from a 1 megapixel camera and something looks blurry and you say "Man.. If only we had a 10 megapixel camera it would be clear!". And then the 10 megapixel camera comes around and you catch it again. This time it isn't something so special but you suddenly see 10 times the curious shapes and questionable areas of interest. Higher resolution doesn't mean more answers it just means more questions.. There will always be more questions than answers .

-ChriS

Originally posted by 12.21.12
So I have heard rumors about a wormhole possibly at the sphinx and that there is also one here in north america, that the ancients could travel to different locations with ease.

Natural Portals...

Here is an article on the Giza one...
www.thelivingmoon.com...

Brian Allan is a contributor at Pegasus and also has been trying to open the gateway at Rosslyn Chapel
www.thelivingmoon.com...
Brian also runs a paranormal encounter group

There is a natural gateway on Frenchman Mountain in Las Vegas see Dan Burisch interview at Project Camelot (I don't have this page complete yet) Coincidently Frenchman Mt is right behind John Lear's house
projectcamelot.org...

U2U me and I can give you more gateway info

Originally posted by BlasteR
There are quite a few connections that have been made with egyptian structures and Mars photographs and doesn't that seem odd to you guys?

Not to me... Read our "Stargates are Real" Thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...



As to Ghosts... and other such 'apparitions' I think I can make a good case for them being 'CRITTERS' but that will be a new thread