Weather Warfare: Real or Not?

reply to post by _Del_


Did you look at like i provided and if so what objections do you have to the methods and circumstantial evidence laid out there? It does go on a bit so you can pick whichever points you like...

Stellar

If you-tube can tell a visual story, it would seem this HAARP System has been activated and used on China, with a high destructive force, causing pain,misery and death. My question is, how could those responsible for this action, if proven that this device was activated, be brought to justice. Stew.

Again the problem, imo, would be that waves propagating from multiple sources always overlap in multiple areas. I don't know (I'm not saying it's impossible) how one would overcome that. That means you would have several "quakes".

Here's my paranoid theory I developed early (mostly at whim). Odd recurring earthquakes off Oregon away from fault line. Odd recurring quakes in Reno (near a fault but still odd). US tracks source of transmitted waves to China and says 'anything you can do I can do better'. China's centre for nuclear development is hit by recurring earthquakes on a much larger scale.
Odds: 1000:1 against, but I enjoy thinking outside the box.

reply to post by _Del_


As you might have noted had you checked out my posts in said thread it's called interferometry and largely deals with the objections you raised!

Waves traveling through a solid medium can be either transverse waves or longitudinal waves. Yet waves traveling through the bulk of a fluid (such as a liquid or a gas) are always longitudinal waves. Transverse waves require a relatively rigid medium in order to transmit their energy. As one particle begins to move it must be able to exert a pull on its nearest neighbor. If the medium is not rigid as is the case with fluids, the particles will slide past each other. This sliding action which is characteristic of liquids and gases prevents one particle from displacing its neighbor in a direction perpendicular to the energy transport. It is for this reason that only longitudinal waves are observed moving through the bulk of liquids such as our oceans. Earthquakes are capable of producing both transverse and longitudinal waves which travel through the solid structures of the Earth. When seismologists began to study earthquake waves they noticed that only longitudinal waves were capable of traveling through the core of the Earth. For this reason, geologists believe that the Earth's core consists of a liquid - most likely molten iron.

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Of two rays of light match each other perfectly in color, they can interact in a surprising way. Because all the crests of one wave have the same wavelength as the second ray the crests of the two waves can be lined up with each other. As each wave crest of one ray coincides with the crest of the other ray, the two amplitudes of the waves add up to twice the amplitude and the result is a single, much brighter light ray. This is called constructive interference. (Probably the only time when it is considered constructive to interfere!)

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Interferometry is the science and technique of superposing (interfering) two or more waves, which creates an output wave different from the input waves; this in turn can be used to explore the differences between the input waves. Because interference is a very general phenomenon with waves, interferometry can be applied to a wide variety of fields, including astronomy, fiber optics, optical metrology, oceanography, seismology and various studies of quantum mechanics. Interferometry can be applied to both one-dimensional waves such as time varying signals, or to multi-dimensional waves such as coherent images produced by laser illumination.

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So interferometry certainly provides the means and a more likely objection would probably involve the tremendous amounts of energy that might be involved.

Stellar

I'm familiar with wave propagation. Perhaps I should have been more clear. When emitting from more than one transmitter the constructive interference will occur in more than one location.

In April 1997, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen stated in a United States Department of Defense news briefing that: (Source: Department of Defense News Briefing: Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen)

“Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.”





“The Importance of Understanding Clouds” (National Aeronautics and Space Administration). The document explains that clouds regulate the planets average temperature and help to spread the suns energy evenly over the earths surface. The article also quotes:

“Even small changes in the abundance or location of clouds could change the climate more than the anticipated changes caused by greenhouse gases, human-produced aerosols, or other factors associated with global change.“





Convention on the Prohibition of Military or any other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques – United Nations Treaty (Signed in Geneva May 18, 1977)

The treaty created a list of phenomena that could result from the use of environmental modification techniques (this list is sourced from the United Nations Treaty above):

“earthquakes and tsunamis; an upset in the ecological balance of a region; changes in weather patterns (clouds, precipitation, cyclones and tornadic storms); changes in climate patterns; changes in ozone currents; changes in the state of the ozone layer and changes in the state of the ionosphere.”





Marc Filterman, a former French military officer, outlines several types of “unconventional weapons” using radio frequencies. He refers to “weather war,” indicating that the U.S. and the Soviet Union had already:

“mastered the know-how needed to unleash sudden climate changes (hurricanes, drought) in the early 1980s.”(3) These technologies make it “possible to trigger atmospheric disturbances by using Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) radar [waves].”

Sourced: (Marc Filterman, Intelligence Newsletter, (December 16, 1999) (www.dscrn.org... / www.globalresearch.ca...)





“Malaysia to Battle Smog With Cyclones“, by Chen May Yee, Staff Reporter of the Wall Street Journal, The Wall Street Journal, Thursday, November 13, 1997, page A19.

“KULA LUMPUR — Malaysia’s war on smog is about to get a new twist. The government wants to create man-made cyclones to scrub away the haze that has plagued Malaysia since July. ‘We will use special technology to create an artificial cyclone to clean the air’, said Datuk Law Hieng Ding, minister for science, technology and the environment. The plan calls for the use of new Russian technology to create cyclones — the giant storms also known as typhoons and hurricanes — to cause torrential rains, washing the smoke out of the air. The Malaysian cabinet and the finance minister have approved the plan, Datuk Law said. A Malaysian company, BioCure Sdn. Bhd., will sign a memorandum of understanding soon with a government-owned Russian party to produce the cyclone. “Datuk Law declined to disclose the size of the cyclone to be generated, or the mechanism. ‘The details I don’t have’, he said. He did say, though, that the cyclone generated would be ‘quite strong’. Datuk Law also declined to disclose the price of creating the cyclone.”





Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025 – (Research paper presented to the United States Air Force)

“Weather modification offers the war fighter a wide range of possible options to defeat or coerce an adversary… Weather modification will become a part of domestic and international security and could be done unilaterally… It could have offensive and defensive applications and even be used for deterrence purposes. The ability to generate precipitation, fog and storms on earth or to modify space weather… and the production of artificial weather all are a part of an integrated set of military technologies.”





Beware the US Military’s experiments with Climatic Warfare – Michel Chossudovsky (Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and editor at the Centre for Research on Globalization, www.globalreasearch.ca)

“‘Climatic warfare’ potentially threatens the future of humanity, but has casually been excluded from the reports for which the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) received the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.”





John von Neumann – Mathematician (1903-1957)

”Intervention in atmospheric and climatic matters . . . will unfold on a scale difficult to imagine at present. . . . this will merge each nation’s affairs with those of every other, more thoroughly than the threat of a nuclear or any other war would have done.”

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I have been doing quite a lot of research into weather and environmental modification and I would like to invite people to read the articles provided. I believe that Sandy, Evan and Oswald may have been manufactured.

Article #1: The unusual nature of Hurricane Sandy
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Governments are using and testing weather modification technology without our knowledge. This is due to the fact that ENMOD banned the use and not the research or possession of environmental modification techniques. The problem we have is that it is easy to cheat this prohibition. Weather modification has no source. You know someone is responsible when something gets bombed, but how do we know someone is responsible if a city gets flooded?

Article #2: Why am I so concerned?
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NASA states that:

“Even small changes in the abundance or location of clouds could change the climate more than the anticipated changes caused by greenhouse gases, human-produced aerosols, or other factors associated with global change.“

Weather modification has a great deal more of an effect on climate then carbon. Why isn't this effect discussed publicly? Why isn't the effect of weather modification on climate part of the climate change debate?

Article #3: Cyclone Evan and the Carbon Conspiracy
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Article #4: Cyclone Oswald and ENMOD
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It is important that we expose the effect of weather and environmental modification on our planet. In time we could expose the unusual nature of storms and then possibility that storms may be manufactured. I am sure we could do this slowly, without pointing fingers, without starting war, but I think we need to do it now. The longer it takes, the worse it gets.