Oklahoma City Reopened?

Looks like the FBI wants to reopen the investigation of the Murrah building bombing. The FBI feels that McVeigh could have had more accomplices than previously thought. Now I understand that Terry Nichols trial starts next week but I think its strange how this revelation is coming out just now, after a "war on terrorism" had been declared. Sounds a bit fishy, if the FBI really wanted to nab those accomplices they would have been looking for them from the start, now I wouldnt be suprised if they just railroaded another American as an enemy combatant.

Since ATS uses a picture of Murrah in the "deny ignorance" headings, I feel that this is a topic worth discussing.

Were there multiple people involved in OK besides McVeigh and Nichols? Do they comprise a growing extremist sect of American soceity? Or is this all one big conspiracy?

Damn looks like I posted this exactly as the news broke, I heard it last night but looks like my ATSNN story wasnt up to snuff.

Well here is the one that was.

www.atsnn.com...

[Edited on 28-2-2004 by Agent47]

To answer your question? Yes

I live in OK and there was always a rumor of one of the big White Supremicist groups here having been involved. There was a case with an informant named Carol Howe who had ties to this group and Tim McVeigh yet that was never explored in the origional trial or investigation.

Now you ask how do I know? Well Carol was tied to another man who was convicted of making threatening statements on an answering machine a couple of years later and it all started to come out then. As it did suddenly she had a deal, did not get convicted and the boyfriend was sent to prison.

Oh by the way. The man convicted.. He and I were best friends from the 7th grade until I moved away my Senior year. Yes he went nuts and became a radical person (odd his mom was the first lesbian I ever met and he had black relatives) someone helped him form his views and I followed the trial closely. It all seemed strange and never made much sense. I think we will see the names Carol Howe and James Viefhause (my school age friend) coming out more in the next few months.

I belive that Timothy McVeigh acted some help and it wasn't a one man job...hopefully the truth will come out!!!

Timothy McVeigh probably one of many. But unless Terry Nichols has let out more than is known, I fear this will become a dead issue.

Do you all feel that this could sway the publics Suspicions on 9-11, or will anyone bring up any possible Relevance into 911 that is high up in office?


I would love to see the 911 Commission use this some way to persuade the president, but don't know if they will be able to

Review this, maybe? What is your thoughts?


"The 3rd terrorist: Mideast tie to OKC bombing
Investigative reporter has 'dead-bang' evidence of Islamic plot"
www.worldnetdaily.com...

Excerpts:

"Last April, Davis' reporting on the Oklahoma City bombing was vindicated when the U.S. 10th Circuit Court of Appeals dismissed a lawsuit filed against her after finding "defendants did not recklessly disregard the truth" in reporting on an Iraqi soldier's alleged involvement in the bombing.

"After eight years of oppressive litigation, the courts have vindicated my work ethic as a dedicated journalist," Davis told WorldNetDaily at the time. "The lawsuit was obviously designed to silence a legitimate investigation into Middle Eastern complicity in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing."

And then continues with:

"In an interview with WND in October 2001, attorney David Schippers, who prosecuted the House of Representatives' impeachment case against Bill Clinton, said his examination of the evidence Davis presented him was conclusive.

"I am thoroughly convinced that there was a dead-bang Middle Eastern connection in the Oklahoma City bombing," he said."


The above article mentions Jayna Davis's investigative write-up of the OKC Bombing, that can be seen and read here:

Her website:
www.jaynadavis.com...

"The Third Terrorist: The Middle Eastern Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing"
www.shopnetdaily.com...


Interestingly enough, there was and has been mention of "John Doe No. 2," who has not been captured to this day but was claimed to be an accomplice to the 1995 OKC Bombing. Here is what is interesting.....Jose' Padilla, an alleged 'dirty bomber' for Al-Qaeda in a mug-shot:



And another:




Ran across this article:

"OKLAHOMA BOMBING LINKED TO BIN LADEN"
www.aim.org...

Excerpt:

"But," the Times said, "chemical formulas written by him and by another man, a Bosnian, who left notes behind at the Taliban Defense Ministry in the same quarter of Kabul, show clearly that they knew how to make crude explosives. In an apparent reference to the Oklahoma City bombing by Timothy McVeigh, one chemical formula at the Defense Ministry is annotated in Bosnian, �Was used in Oklahoma.�" This had been described toward the end of Rhode�s story the previous day a little differently. Discussing the house that bore the Taliban and Ministry of Defense seals, Rhode had written, "Upstairs, a room labeled �special office,� had been mostly emptied, but numerous papers remained in desk drawers. Most of them were notebooks from students. One gave a detailed description of various ways to make nitroglycerin, dynamite and fertilizer bombs. A note next to one of the explosive formulas said, �the type used in Oklahoma.�"

That was the biggest news in the story if the formula was not ammonium nitrate and fuel oil, the ANFO bomb that Timothy McVeigh is supposed to have used to blow up the Murrah Building. "Supposed to have used" has to be said because there is a lot of evidence that an ANFO bomb alone could not have caused all the damage done to the Murrah Building and that smaller powerful bombs inside the building caused much, if not most, of it. Since the ANFO that the FBI says was in the Ryder truck failed to demolish a low concrete wall between it and the building, or knock down a nearby lamp post, it could not have destroyed the more distant reinforced concrete building."

And another:

"An Oklahoma Mystery: New hints of links between Timothy McVeigh and Middle Eastern terrorists"
www.laweekly.com...



regards
seekerof

maybe the FBI will release the surveillance video's, maybe someone will pay attention to the news reports in okc that day, maybe someone will explain why there were two blast reported, and my favorite one, maybe someone will explain how t. mcveigh would go through all the trouble to plan this bombing and carry it out and then get pulled over with no tags on his car. unlikely to happen.

When my grandfather appeared on the O'Reilly factor tonight (He really stuck it to Ashcroft, too ) Bill wouldn't let him get into that. My grandfather was really pushing to talk about all of the information on first our knowlege of the Oaklahoma city bombing, and that there was a middle eastern connection.

Originally posted by junglejake
When my grandfather appeared on the O'Reilly factor tonight (He really stuck it to Ashcroft, too ) Bill wouldn't let him get into that. My grandfather was really pushing to talk about all of the information on first our knowlege of the Oaklahoma city bombing, and that there was a middle eastern connection.

Would your grandfather be Ed Meese?

The 1980s Meese?

The target of people like Hunter S. Thompson?

[Edited on 13-4-2004 by Agent47]