My video of unidentified object

Don't be so quick to rule out it being a cloud! I've seen very similar Cirrostratus clouds before like the ones in this picture.




See how there are single lines of clouds? It's very possible that what you filmed is a cloud.

[edit on 4/27/2008 by InterestedObserver]

Thks to Internos for bringing my attention to this thread (and sorry I wasn't here earlier!)

I'm pretty certain it's a contrail illuminated by the setting sun (this often happens after the sun has set - the aircraft and it's contrail, being higher up, are still in sunlight). The colour would certainly match that theory.

I've seen similar things myself before - often several aircraft producing short, brightly illuminated contrails at the same time, but unfortunately don't have any photos to show for comparison.

I've often thought they look much like fast moving comets - especially since usually the aircraft is too far away to be visible.

I do apologise if this topic is now closed, but I just wanted to add my knowledge onto the topic.

I have just joined after just finding this site as I big on conspiracy theories and what not.

Now studying the vid and the photos posted of screens of the video. I'd thought I'd put a little insight into this object in the sky.

I saw someone say its not a cloud as moving too fast, I've just got to discredit that post, as I've saw clouds moving faster than that. But the object in the video is definately not a cloud.

Reason - If a cloud is moving faster than what clouds quite normally do (When can be seen moving very, very slowly) They are quite often disforming in shape, and if a cloud is to reflect and keep the same glow then it cannot move as quickly as the object in the video.

As for the contrail of an aircraft. I can confirm that it is not a usual contrail, studying aircraft and the contrails of which one would leave. I can confirm that the contrail this object left is vanishing too quickly for it to be a large jetliner which would be common in the area, not to mention that from the distance the object does appear to move slightly faster than what a jetliner would from the same distance.

It does appear that the distance from the front appears to stay the same - normal contrails tend to differ in size and shape at the rear end. Once again disproving a large aircraft.

So two options remain either a real life UFO or a small fast moving jet.

I'll go for what is the most likely answer - and this is one I worked through with my cousin, who has his own pilots licence and has flown some of the fastest (passanger and fighter jets)

The contrail stays the same, and on the zoom shot that was posted before, only on zooming close in can you see a little disturbance at the left of the light. Small jets, either fighter or passanger leave contrails which are similar to what was seen. As you did say before hand that the airforce tend to send out harriers in the area for test flights. Studying the harrier style jets gives a plausable answer to what was caught on tape. Unfortunately knowing first hand that the airforce wont advise that they did or did not have an aircraft in the region this can't be proven to a full 100% so there will be doubts (I know this due to my sister being in the RAF in the UK) but on inspecting the whole video and slowing it down using the stills. The only conclusion that I can give is that it is a local airforce jet plane.

Hope that helps.
SJ.

Welcome to ATS SJ - that's a good observation regarding speed and possibility of it being a jet fighter [y]

I will admit the trail does move faster than those produced by high level airliners that I've observed.

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I will look forward to their opinions

reply to post by Essan


Thanks for adding valuable insight to the thread Essan

fooffstarr has kindly provided the original video, that can be downloaded here:
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in this case IMHO is very important to watch the original:
too many details have been lost when it has been uploaded to youtube.

One of the problems with this video is that the target is almost never on focus for all its duration:
we can compare the blur on the plants of the left with the one of the plants on the right, and see how this affects the shape of the object.

This may generate confusion (at least, this happened to me until i've been able to work on the original with a video editing software ).
The most clear frames are Frame 67 (2233ms) and Frame 123 (4100ms):

i mean, this is what actually we are looking at in the video


So: known time, known location, known appearance, unknown size, unknown distance, unknown speed, unknown origin:
this is all that we have so far

Originally posted by IsawOne
Looks like a Chinese drone to me. The Chinese are masterful at hiding their spy drones in the early morning or early evening clouds like that all over Asia.

Is that really useful speculation? Everything points to this just being a simple airliner or military aircraft. What in your mind points to a Chinese drone? You kinda lost me.

-ChriS

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That's really exactly right. I took a close look at this vid lastnight and the anomaly is simply out of focus for most of the duration of the video. This means that trying to decipher things like patterns in the contrail or looking for aircraft at the front that would be creating a contrail is difficult. But there are a few frames in which the aircraft (being darker than the contrail) actually seems to create a small dark artifact where it would be.

IMO The frames that have the anomaly in better focus also point to a contrail. There are a couple of frames about midway through where you can actually see what I think are breaks or imperfections in the contrail as well as the aircraft at the front. These are some examples(though the quality isn't that wonderful):





-ChriS

DBL post again

[edit on 27-4-2008 by BlasteR]

Yeah i hate my camera

It isn't a video camera, but it does take video (obviously). Problem is you can't turn off auto focus in video mode. It was frustrating me so much trying to film it because every time i moved slightly the focus would just go nuts.

Originally posted by fooffstarr
Yeah i hate my camera

It isn't a video camera, but it does take video (obviously). Problem is you can't turn off auto focus in video mode. It was frustrating me so much trying to film it because every time i moved slightly the focus would just go nuts.

Hey, you've been so able to spot and to film it, and so nice to share it here: what else should we ask to you?
I would have been able just to film the plants and besides out of focus.
You did a good work fooffstarr, and anyway we have some good frames.
They are enough.

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Yeah.. i still hate my camera though haha

Getting a few weird comments on the youtube as well including one accusing me of trying to start a new Australian UFO wave. It was the 17th most viewed video in Australia over the weekend as well so at least it is good to know people still take an interested in unidentified objects

Sorry if this has been solved

In my opinion I can probaby say that it is not meteorogical phenomena. Its really hard to say though as the video is not in very good focus (thats not a dig at the OP). I was thinking that it could be the elusive green flash phenomena, but it appears as though the object was moving and not at sunset which definently rules that out and I can almost 100% say that it is not related to ice crystal phenomena (eg sundogs)

If I had to say it was something, it would be a meteor due to the colour of the trail behind it

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It might be a luminous trail, from a ufo perhaps because they can go slow.
Even stuck in the sky for some reason


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ED: The last link of slide show photos, all from Sydney, Australia.


[edit on 4/27/2008 by TeslaandLyne]

OzWeatherman:

"If I had to say it was something, it would be a meteor due to the colour of the trail behind it."

I disagree with you, simply because I've seen the same thing, though it wasn't moving at all (from what I saw). I was driving, so I saw it only briefly (I was on curving roads), but it was not moving at all. Meteors move, rapidly. I really don't know what I saw, or what this is in the posted video. I assumed that what I saw was a sliver of a cloud, or a contrail, though there were no clouds nor contrails anywhere else. I just went on my way, with many things to do before 9:30am. All I know is that what I saw I had never seen before, and it was striking.

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Agreed. It definitely wasn't a meteor as I explained at the top of page 3.

Originally posted by avery200
OzWeatherman:

"If I had to say it was something, it would be a meteor due to the colour of the trail behind it."

I disagree with you, simply because I've seen the same thing, though it wasn't moving at all (from what I saw). I was driving, so I saw it only briefly (I was on curving roads), but it was not moving at all. Meteors move, rapidly. I really don't know what I saw, or what this is in the posted video. I assumed that what I saw was a sliver of a cloud, or a contrail, though there were no clouds nor contrails anywhere else. I just went on my way, with many things to do before 9:30am. All I know is that what I saw I had never seen before, and it was striking.

Ok, didnt read the entire thread, so wasnt sure how it was moving

I can say that it is most likely not a contrail. Ice crystals do not appear just one colour (irisation) and if the sun was reflecting off it, the trail would be bright white. Very strange this one, never seen anything like it

Originally posted by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by avery200
OzWeatherman:

"If I had to say it was something, it would be a meteor due to the colour of the trail behind it."

I disagree with you, simply because I've seen the same thing, though it wasn't moving at all (from what I saw). I was driving, so I saw it only briefly (I was on curving roads), but it was not moving at all. Meteors move, rapidly. I really don't know what I saw, or what this is in the posted video. I assumed that what I saw was a sliver of a cloud, or a contrail, though there were no clouds nor contrails anywhere else. I just went on my way, with many things to do before 9:30am. All I know is that what I saw I had never seen before, and it was striking.

Ok, didnt read the entire thread, so wasnt sure how it was moving

I can say that it is most likely not a contrail. Ice crystals do not appear just one colour (irisation) and if the sun was reflecting off it, the trail would be bright white. Very strange this one, never seen anything like it

But the sun is setting in the background and is very close to the horizon. This causes an orange sunset which illuminates the white cloud as that very same color. The same can happen if the sun has already set. The orangish glow can reflect off those white ice crystals creating orange contrails even when the sun has already gone below the horizon. The contrails become illuminated by direct light from the setting orange sun even though you may not exactly see the sun itself.

In other words, to rule out a contrail is ruling out probably the most likely possibility. If you look at the closeups that have been posted by myself and others you can actually see evidence of an aircraft in front of the contrail as well as imperfections in the contrail itself which all point to the likelihood of an aircraft being the culprit. The size of the contrail remains uniform throughout the video which actually isn't so odd when you think about it. The temperature of the air is a huge factor and, if warm enough, the ice crystals in the contrail could disperse/melt at X distance behind the aircraft which would give you this effect of an odd, moving, elongated cloud. the fact that the speed seems about accurate to that of an aircraft is also a big clue.

-ChriS

[edit on 28-4-2008 by BlasteR]

Originally posted by InterestedObserver
Don't be so quick to rule out it being a cloud! I've seen very similar Cirrostratus clouds before like the ones in this picture.




See how there are single lines of clouds? It's very possible that what you filmed is a cloud.

[edit on 4/27/2008 by InterestedObserver]

Those are called sundogs we see those all the time up here in Alaska!

Oh thanks for the name, now I've found more!

Here's another. It's called an elongated parhelion.




[edit on 4/28/2008 by InterestedObserver]