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Originally posted by Promecus
reply to post by Amaterasu
What makes you an expert?
1) I have actually studied Greek and Roman mythology. Not extensively, but I've enjoyed reading Homer's stories and the purpose behind their worship of such said gods. I would like to point out that if the entire surface of the planet was truly turned to dust and the planet was re-created. Why in the hell would they educate the 'beast' about a rebel leader and make that rebel leader a god like figure? Wouldn't that some-what defeat the purpose of control? Especially when Zu Zu came so close. Such a story would inspire hope of freedom and self control. It would defeat the purpose entirely.
2) Could be broadcasted? Didn't it state in the Terra Papers that they were currently using such said devices to control us? "Could be use" and "are being used" are two very different thing....my queen. (Yes, the 'my queen' part is sarcasm) As far as I know, the only type of energy that can affect the human brain is an alpha wave. And I can promise you that your laptop does not broadcast alpha waves. Plus, the frequency of the alpha wave is going to be different for each person...no two will be totally identical.
3) I would also like to know why you'd say that the humanoid form is best suited for intelligence. I'm not saying it is, and I'm not saying it isn't. But that statement, to me, seems rather arrogant. It is a proven fact that life adapts to the environment for survival purposes. Intelligence does factor into the equation however such a tool is not a necessity.
4) If the lizards were really going to control 6,605,000,000+ intelligent beings on this planet it would seem more evident that their presence here would be a little more renown. In itself, this argument is self defeating. How could they even account for everything that we use, just as a starter, like CCT security? Wouldn't they leave some type of footprint? How about that nosy neighbor that peeks out at the street from behind a curtain? There is just too much here to make any of it believable.
5) I'll only state that you cannot answer this con because it is a valid point which negates much of this entire topic.
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1) Power and control? Such things are very human. A truly enlightened species would never desire such things for anything but conquest. And conquest may not be necessary to an evolved species. If a species is enlightened then it would realize that an equilibrium MUST be formed to ensure the survival of not just their species but all life. Surely the SSS would realize this. Power and control does not factor into such a notion. And I'd also like to point out that, as you state it ... "to wipe us out" isn't the way of the SSS. The papers CLEARLY stated that.
Also, how do you know that is what their intentions are? Assuming what you are saying is true then wouldn't YOUR mind be under their control and influence?
2) Unless you didn't truly understand my point of view about the Terra Papers I'll spell it out for you. I called it 'entertaining' not 'educational'.
3) I do not need to brush it aside or examine it. I can clearly see that, from a logical point of view, most of it is fiction. I tell you what, let's make a deal. You come up with PHYSICAL evidence that the Terra Papers could be written into the history books and I'll bow to you on the thrown.
Originally posted by SevenThunders
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Heh. Either promoting faith in a god outside is a brainwash or promoting a god within is.
These Papers promote god within (we are gods). I would love to have you explain WHY you think these teachings are some form of deception.
The idea that we are gods was the very first lie that the serpent spoke to Eve.
Genesis 3
Originally posted by Amaterasu
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I'm willing to accept your choice to believe as you will. I believe the Bible was a tool to keep the "beasts" in line. I'm having trouble finding anything more to say to you.
Have a nice life.
Originally posted by SevenThunders
Originally posted by Amaterasu
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I'm willing to accept your choice to believe as you will. I believe the Bible was a tool to keep the "beasts" in line. I'm having trouble finding anything more to say to you.
Have a nice life.
Well which source is more reliable, the Bible or some mysterious alien speaking through a supposed Indian. An alien who happens to believe in death stars and the sounds of explosions in space, ie an alien who has watched star wars one too many times IMHO.
It is true that believing in the Bible can be inconvenient. Especially since we are accountable to God.
However I believe there is good evidence to support the biblical account. One piece of evidence is the detailed fulfillment of biblical prophecy. Prophecy which was written down thousands of years ago and coming true today.
reply to post by Malynn
I think it's been a mostly polite debate. It is still the human condition to get offended by people who's opinions are different than ours, whether that makes sense or not.
Ok, then is it surrounding the Earth only? Again, such a field would have to require a vast amount of energy. If this is the case then where is the source of that energy? Where is the device that is producing this field...using this massive amount of energy?
Originally posted by Promecus
Amaterasu, all you are doing now is dodging the issues we've presented. So I'm not even going to bother addressing you again. As my signature states, I hate repeating myself.
On another note, however, I'd like to point something else out. If there really is an electronic blanket surrounding this system, it would require an incredible energy source.
Wouldn't we have detected this energy in some way?
This energy source would have to be so magnificent that it could encompass this entire planet.
Or, as Amaterasu would like us to believe, the entire solar system.
Think about it this way...If you were standing on Pluto right now, our sun would look much like a tiny bright star in the sky. Much like how the North Star appears to us here on Earth.
So, the idea of an energy field surrounding the entire system doesn't seem very likely.
Ok, then is it surrounding the Earth only?
Again, such a field would have to require a vast amount of energy. If this is the case then where is the source of that energy? Where is the device that is producing this field...using this massive amount of energy?
And on top of it all, if there is an electronic blanket surrounding this planet then how are we able to communicate via satellite? How are we sending commands and receiving data from probes that orbit around the moons of Jupiter? How the heck does your cell phone work if there is a massive jamming signal that is constantly present?
Something else just occurred to me. Let's talk about how long these ETs live. Are they ageless or something? Just think about how long it would take to travel from here to the nearest solar system (Alpha Centauri) which is a little more than 4.2 light years from Earth. Can they move faster than C or travel in multiples of C? Hell, the Sirius system itself is about 8.6 light years from us.
Now, we could take into account the factor of time dilation where it would be possible for them to travel to our system within their life time. However dozens of thousands of years would have passed on Earth. Which would mean that we've been in existence longer than fossil records would indicate. Which again, negates the validity of the Terra Papers.
It would be nice to believe most, if not all, of what is in the Terra Papers. And some of it does make a little sense. However, there are just too many contradictions in them to seem valid.
Originally posted by maatunidy
It is limited only to the lower dimentional realms, however. There is a spiritual, higher dimentional component that must be understood that goes along with this information. Morning Sky broaches this by mentioning channeling, but a lot of discernment must be used to measure the motivations of the messages coming through the many different channelers on Earth right now.
I thank you tremendously for posting this, and I just have a couple of questions.
1. Does the document end on page 33 in the 2nd Terra Papers? It says it goes to 40 pages but there seems to be an error.
2. Can I put this up on my website? Or rather I should say, do you know how to get a hold of J. Morning Sky for approval? If this one goes "poof" again - I'd like to support it and assure that it has a safe space.
Originally posted by maatunidy
reply to post by Promecus
Ok, then is it surrounding the Earth only? Again, such a field would have to require a vast amount of energy. If this is the case then where is the source of that energy? Where is the device that is producing this field...using this massive amount of energy?
This "energy field," is a blanket that encompasses the very consciousness of the planet. It has been called the veil by many sources. It is maintained both energetically and more importantly - magnetically, through a grid or network of ley lines. In addition, certain sacred portals or access points to this grid have been seized by governments long ago. (Good for us, these spots are shifting). This grid is is deeply woven into our planet, interdimentionally. For more info on hyperdimentional physics, check out David Wilcock's research at
www.divinecosmos.com...
For more info on the Magnetic grid, check out the Kryon's channelings at
www.kryon.com...
Originally posted by SevenThunders
Well which source is more reliable, the Bible or some mysterious alien speaking through a supposed Indian. An alien who happens to believe in death stars and the sounds of explosions in space, ie an alien who has watched star wars one too many times IMHO.
Originally posted by zorgon
So which Alien Story version is correct? Hard to tell because the original facts have been so distorted by time and 'editing' by men with agendas that all the old texts have value only as reference...
No religion, or belief in Aliens has ANY proof... it is all a matter of belief, and its all a matter of interpretation
Though we spend several lifetimes seeking the 'truth'. I doubt we will ever find it in this lifetime, or on this planet.
But seek we must... so we don't go blindly into the next level
Originally posted by Promecus
The great flying spaghetti monster comes to mind.
www.venganza.org...
Please let it be known that I'm not trying to discredit any one particular person in this thread. Only the validity of the Terra Papers. It is very easy for someone to say "It's real because you don't understand it". But that doesn't make any statement true.
Originally posted by SevenThunders
Well which source is more reliable, the Bible or some mysterious alien speaking through a supposed Indian. An alien who happens to believe in death stars and the sounds of explosions in space, ie an alien who has watched star wars one too many times IMHO.
It is true that believing in the Bible can be inconvenient. Especially since we are accountable to God. However I believe there is good evidence to support the biblical account. One piece of evidence is the detailed fulfillment of biblical prophecy. Prophecy which was written down thousands of years ago and coming true today.
Originally posted by Masisoar
I get upset because the field of UFOlogy is already full of mounds and mounds of B.S.
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