where are the Lunar Rovers ?

Something that has always puzzled me is why can't we see pictures of the Apollo landing area's ? you would think that they would have pictures showing the Moon Landers and Moon Rovers and put an end to the Moon conspiracy.


are there any satellite pictures showing the Lunar Rovers ? i have never seen any that i can remember and i did a search here on ATS and found a few threads talking about why we cant see them from Earth with telescopes.

the problem i have with this is...looking at this photo of the Mars Rover from a satellite picture you can see the rover on the surface. why is there none from the moon like this ?

mars.jpl.nasa.gov...
rover-color-close-up2-annot.jpg (JPEG Image, 1941x1230 pixels)













obviously the moon rovers are bigger than the mars rovers...so why no pictures ?


www.apolloexplorer.co.uk...
Lunar Surface Hi-Res Pictures


hubblesite.org...
HubbleSite - NewsCenter - Hubble Shoots the Moon (04/16/1999) - Introduction

Moon probe could kill conspiracy theory
SMART-1 sending back imagery of Apollo sites

New imagery of old Apollo touchdown spots, from the European Space Agency’s SMART-1 probe, might put to rest conspiratorial thoughts that U.S. astronauts didn’t go the distance and scuff up the lunar landscape. NASA carried out six piloted landings on the moon between 1969 and 1972.

www.msnbc.msn.com...
Moon probe could kill conspiracy theory - Space.com- msnbc.com


www.esa.int...
ESA - SMART-1








[edit on 8-4-2008 by easynow]

Good questions raised here.

I have thought about this afew times myself but never found any answers. Maybe they never did go to the moon as the pictures show no stars in the background which has been discussed before on ATS.

Flag from me.

Originally posted by cnm1976
Good questions raised here.

I have thought about this afew times myself but never found any answers. Maybe they never did go to the moon as the pictures show no stars in the background which has been discussed before on ATS.

Flag from me.

thanks for your post,

well i dont know if they really went to the moon, i kinda think they did ...but i believe most of the photo's we see are from the studio mock up version imo.


maybe they dont want to show the closeups of the landing sites because there are other things there that they dont want us to see ? just a guess

maybe its things like this...a skull on the moon ?






anybody ever notice there are skulls on mars also ?





www.unexplainable.net...
UFO on Mars Picture collection - Mars Rovers Discoveries




[edit on 8-4-2008 by easynow]

Because none of the cameras around the moon have the resolution to see them. IIRC the Japan probe has a 10m resolution. Every pixel is 10 meters or something like that. The resolution is nowhere near high enough to see something as small as the rovers.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
Because none of the cameras around the moon have the resolution to see them. IIRC the Japan probe has a 10m resolution. Every pixel is 10 meters or something like that. The resolution is nowhere near high enough to see something as small as the rovers.

thanks for your post,

im just not buying that sorry, you mean to tell me that we have spent billions of dollars and they cant get a closeup photo ?....


look at google earth for example and how detailed it is.

something dont add up

You can buy it or not, it's not going to change the fact that it's the truth. Google Earth is a completely different situation. It's one thing to get a high resolution camera into low earth orbit, and another to build a satellite that has a high resolution camera around the moon. And "we" didn't spend the money for them. The Japanese and the ESA did.

I wasn't aware that we had any lunar rovers. I know we have rovers on mars but those were sent recently with much better tech than the last time we went to the moon.

When the heck did we get lunar rovers?

Originally posted by mrwupy
I wasn't aware that we had any lunar rovers. I know we have rovers on mars but those were sent recently with much better tech than the last time we went to the moon.

When the heck did we get lunar rovers?

thanks for your post,

the lunar rovers were for the Apollo astronauts to drive around on the moon.

The Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV) or lunar rover was a type of surface exploration rover used on the Moon during the Apollo program. It is also known by its popular nickname of moon buggy. Three of the Apollo missions brought LRVs to the Moon.

en.wikipedia.org...
Lunar rover - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


there were three that we know of sent to the moon.....so why cant we at least spot one of them ?

Originally posted by Zaphod58
You can buy it or not, it's not going to change the fact that it's the truth.

You can buy it or not, it's not going to change the fact that its a lie.

You see, argueing with comments like that is not really helpful to anyone. Please come with info why you hold it to be true, since it otherwise seems more and more likely it was a hoax.

Originally posted by ravenflt

Originally posted by Zaphod58
You can buy it or not, it's not going to change the fact that it's the truth.

You can buy it or not, it's not going to change the fact that its a lie.

You see, argueing with comments like that is not really helpful to anyone. Please come with info why you hold it to be true, since it otherwise seems more and more likely it was a hoax.

thanks for your post,

i may be wrong but i think Zaphod was referring to the camera issue in that statement.

i still dont believe that we cant get a clear photo of the moons surface close enough to see the Apollo Landing sites. but maybe thats why they say they dont have a good enough camera so they can continue the coverup ?

[edit on 8-4-2008 by easynow]

The spacecraft has already flown over Apollo landing sites, and some have hoped the probe might be able to provide images of equipment left behind by the US Apollo and Russian Lunokhod missions.

But Professor Kato said the craft's terrain camera resolution was only 10m, so it was "not easy to determine traces of Apollo or Russian vehicles".

www.redorbit.com...

Until the LRO arrives in Lunar orbit we won't be able to see the Apollo landing sites, or the rovers.

Please compare the resolution between pictures from the moon or mars. To date no one has sent cameras with the same definition to the moon. If you have evidence to the contrary, please share it.
Of course we have the cameras to do it, but no one has sent one to the moon.
If we sent the same cameras to the moon and surveyed the "alleged" moon landing sites and still found nothing, then I would seriously question the landings. But no one has done that.

Originally posted by _Del_
Please compare the resolution between pictures from the moon or mars. To date no one has sent cameras with the same definition to the moon. If you have evidence to the contrary, please share it.
Of course we have the cameras to do it, but no one has sent one to the moon.
If we sent the same cameras to the moon and surveyed the "alleged" moon landing sites and still found nothing, then I would seriously question the landings. But no one has done that.

thanks for your post,

well since i am no expert on camera's maybe somebody can look into it, but i believe i read that they could show you were the rover was on the moon but it would appear as a dot...........well fine i say show me the dot......

Of course we have the cameras to do it, but no one has sent one to the moon.

how do we really know this as a fact ? the military is not going to tell you everything imo

Originally posted by Zaphod58

The spacecraft has already flown over Apollo landing sites, and some have hoped the probe might be able to provide images of equipment left behind by the US Apollo and Russian Lunokhod missions.

But Professor Kato said the craft's terrain camera resolution was only 10m, so it was "not easy to determine traces of Apollo or Russian vehicles".

www.redorbit.com...

Until the LRO arrives in Lunar orbit we won't be able to see the Apollo landing sites, or the rovers.

hey thanks for that info..... checkin it out now

lunar.gsfc.nasa.gov...
[[ Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter ]]

(8) meter-scale coverage overlapping with Apollo era Panoramic images (1-2 m/pixel) to document the number of small impacts since 1971-1972, to ascertain hazards for future surface operations and interplanetary travel.

overlapping with the Apollo images ?

Originally posted by easynow

thanks for your post,

well since i am no expert on camera's maybe somebody can look into it, but i believe i read that they could show you were the rover was on the moon but it would appear as a dot...........well fine i say show me the dot......

how do we really know this as a fact ? the military is not going to tell you everything imo

It depends on the cameras resolution. A camera with 10m resolution probably isn't going to catch even a dot of the landers or rovers. As has been explained it means every pixel in the picture is basically a 10M square.
Here is a picture at 10M resolution. As you can see, while you can see where the towns are, you can't make out vehicles and can only barely see the larger buildings.

www.disasterscharter.org...


If you hide behind, "how do we know? The military might be hiding something" we're not ever going to get anywhere

reply to post by _Del_



thanks for your post,

If you hide behind, "how do we know? The military might be hiding something" we're not ever going to get anywhere

well if you hide behind "i know all the facts" and "they have NEVER sent a camera to the moon that could do it " then i think your not ever going to get any where either.


when the moon landers lifted of the moons surface, dont ya think there would be somekind of photo showing where they just blasted off ?

To the original OP, if you want to check for the lunar rovers, then you'll first need to check where they are
Apollo 15 was the first to use a rover, they landed at 26°8′ N 3°38′ E

Google can give you an idea of what the location looks like and will provide further information
www.google.com...
...but you dont want to trust them as they may be "in on it"

Now you know where to look and what the location looks like, grab a good telescope and see for yourself.
Cant get hold of a good telescope? Find a local astronomer and ask for their assistance

Although I personally have not looked myself, I believe the evidence is there

I don't know all the answers. I can only speak to what information I have. I don't claim to be the holder of all secret knowledge. I think that's important. I'm open to all kinds of theories. I'm not open to saying "We didn't land on the moon because they probably would've had better pictures showing the landing site" when there is no reason to assume that. I don't think that's responsible. I don't think we should use a lack of evidence AS evidence. If you have information that the military has surveyed the moon with a higher resolution, please by all means provide it. If the LRO goes to the moon and surveys the sites and they are empty, then yes, I'll have SERIOUS questions about the event.

Originally posted by Mark Roazhar


Now you know where to look and what the location looks like, grab a good telescope and see for yourself.
Cant get hold of a good telescope? Find a local astronomer and ask for their assistance

Although I personally have not looked myself, I believe the evidence is there

You cant look for your self. the only way your going to see the landing site in a good enough resolution is to send a satellite up there yourself. there are no Earth based telescopes that can resolve the moon to the detail people want.

As for satellites its been explained numerous times before, the moon just isn't important enough to sent telescopes that can take photographs detailed enough to get a resolution that would show the landing sites, and the people who run these projects are not going to spend million just to satisfy some peoples need for photographic evidence of the landings when there just going to be labelled as fake anyway.

We never went to the moon.

see this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Therefore, there are No moonrovers anywhere. Hope this clears it all up.