Chavez Calls McCain 'Man of War'; Wants to Improve Relations With Next President

Chavez Calls McCain 'Man of War'; Wants to Improve Relations With Next President

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Chavez, whose country is the United States' fourth-largest oil supplier, said Tuesday that McCain's remarks during the campaign don't bode well for easing tensions.

"McCain seems to be a man of war too. He said yesterday that Bush has been very tolerant with Chavez. He's gone to Iraq to offer more weapons and more dollars — and more war," Chavez said. "God save us — and beyond God, may the people of the United States save us from greater madness."

Chavez, who regularly calls Bush the devil, added: "Sometimes one says that worse than Bush is impossible, but we don't know."

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This guy is starting to become my favourite world leader, he just tells it as he sees it.

However, what i was wondering is;

Does a world leader like Chavez have access to more information, or have a greater understanding of other worldly political leaders? Are these comments based more-so on fact that our wild accusations we love to throw?

In order to make this comment:

"Sometimes one says that worse than Bush is impossible, but we don't know."

He would have to be basing that on something and not just wildly accusing a Presidential candidate for the sake of it.

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He would have to be basing that on something and not just wildly accusing a Presidential candidate for the sake of it.

I don't think he has to base it on anything substantial. He knows that his country is in the crosshairs of the Bush administration, but he has been ignored primarily due to the war in Iraq. He obviously sees McCain as someone who has aligned himself with Bush which means that he could potentially continue the stress between the two countries. I think anyone in that position would be foolish not to think of the possibility that McCain could be worse than Bush.

I think the American people would be wise to ask themselves that same question.

Originally posted by Karlhungis
I think anyone in that position would be foolish not to think of the possibility that McCain could be worse than Bush.

I think the American people would be wise to ask themselves that same question.

A scary proposition.

I also like to see the position Chavez appears to have taken and it appears he is not anti-american, but anti-bush and welcomes a new government where they can be more "open".

I think that most of the world will breathe a collective sigh of relief when Bush finally is out of office. I will still have deep reservations about what the future may hold though, considering our current crop of presidential candidates.

Its difficult to hate this Mr Chavez.

He is straight, speaks directly, and always repply from the issue, and to the question. Not common for politicians in "western world." In my ears a honest man is speaking there.

He have said hundreds of times that he dont accept Bush policy, its nothing to do with American citizens, but with your political corruption, and fascist way of ruling things.

I think he is right in his concerns from McWar, I am too. He gives the right question at the right time.

Chavez is always mouthing off more than he has the ability to understand.

Him calling McCain a jellyfish is nothing new.

Reference for joke above

reply to post by 44soulslayer


How can you judge his understanding? In what issue he has speak something what was totally untrue or show of stupidity? Really? I am only interested.

"Speaking over mouth" is in my mind "Speaking all from the issue" and we in western world are not use to that. Our way of political speak is giving only 25-50% answers to public, and then we here in ATS try to understand the rest what our rulers wont say... Witch is the better way?

You know, its a great malaise with Hugo Chavez that he has far more opinion than information. Or rather that he presents himself in a way which is unbecoming of a national leader.

Calling Bush the "devil" is not an actions that befits a president of a country. You may disagree with Bush, and many including myself do disagree, but why call him a "devil"? That is simply not good conduct.

How could Chavez know McCain's full plan for relationship expansion with Venezuela? He is destroying any possible hope of friendship before McCain is even elected.

Chavez didnt need to make these comments... he is only playing up to the anti-american crowd around the world.

I have to say that as much as I dislike the policies of Bush, I dislike the conduct of Chavez to a far greater extent.

Originally posted by 44soulslayer
You know, its a great malaise with Hugo Chavez that he has far more opinion than information.

Uh, could you please explain what this sentence means? Thank you.

Bush called 3 countries "the axis of evil". How is that different from what Chavez said? Of the 2, I think Chavez's comment is benign. Besides that, he's calling it like he sees it. I happen to agree with him. Since when is telling the truth unbecoming of a country's leader???

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Well, maybe Bush was 'calling it like he sees it' as well? Maybe in his mind, its completely true.

While think Chavez is a loon, I have no idea if he actually believes half the crap he spouts or not. Maybe he does.

In the end, it doesn't matter. Neither statement is particularly appropriate for the world stage and probably shouldn't be condoned just because we 'agree' with them or not.

It means that dear old Hugo has too many views and not enough thoughts.

For example, consider some of his quotes:

“A coup happened in Venezuela that was prepared by the U.S. What do they want? Our oil, as they did in Iraq ,”

Reality : US was not, as far as we know, involved in the attempted coup against Chavez in 2002. He is just using it as a pretext for anti-americanism.

“of course, be polite.”

Reality : He continues using defamatory comments towards Americans, Jews and Capitalists. I accept your comment about him being branded part of the "axis of evil", but that was more a categorisation against his country. He seems to attack people on a personal level.
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"I love George Bush . . . seriously, after oil, he's the next best thing that's ever happened to me"

Explanation : He is using hate speech to further his own political power. He is the most authoritarian president in the Latin bloc and has on several occasions threatened to declare a state of emergency.

And i leave you with an article which demonstrates this man's economic ability and understanding: uk.reuters.com...

A six hour week will decimate the Venezuelan economy. It will lead to a massive shortage of resources, which of course can be easily blamed upon
"Bush the evil devil and his country of murderers".

Dont let his beret fool you, champagne socialism is alive and well.

I love Chavez' feistiness. Everyone, including himself, knows that Dumbya wants him dead. But he doesn't care--He comes right out and says what the whole rest of the world is thinking. The Decider is an evil, diabolical soul. The most dangerous person (if you can even call him that) on the planet. McInsane is a step worse. A war-mongering lunatic. Hugo comes out and says what the rest of us see.

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You have to admit the coup in Venezuela, if it was successful, would have worked very, very well for the Bush administration. It wouldn't be the first time the US has used the CIA to topple a leader.

And Chavez was to instigate a 6 hour day, not week And it was voted down by the people, 50.7% against. And that vote took place last December, fyi, so it's not really up-to-date.

There's nothing wrong with Chavez calling Bush a devil - rarely does a leader get a chance to call out a much larger country trying to strong-arm it into submission, which is exactly what happened. It's uncommon, but it makes a lot of sense.

Chavez just doesn't want McCain in because he knows that McCain will continue to support Columbia. However, Obama has made statements that have lead many in Chavez' group, and Chavez's terrorists, to believe that Obama will DROP AID to Columbia.

Typical Chavez. His statement isn't one about peace. It's about him advancing his own hold in the region.

Captured FARC computers name Obama ....

Originally posted by JanusFIN
Its difficult to hate this Mr Chavez.

No it's not. He's a little dictator-wanna be. He's systematically taking away the rights and freedoms of the people of Venezuela. Sad. Really sad.

[edit on 3/26/2008 by FlyersFan]

reply to post by 44soulslayer


Thank you for the explanation. However, my point is that I don't think you used the word "malaise" correctly, which is why I was confused.

reply to post by forestlady


From www.dictionary.com

Malaise: A vague or unfocused feeling of mental uneasiness

dictionary.reference.com...

On seconds thoughts, perhaps not the most appropriate choice of words. Perhaps "maladie" would be more appropriate.

Hi Flyers, I am just a bit curious and would like to due further research. Could you show me where "He's systematically taking away the rights and freedoms of the people of Venezuela" so I may learn of his doings?

Colombia is probably the only country in the way of helping unite the northern South America into a sort of Union, the likes of the USA, EU, or African Union, as long as colomiba is being bought by Washington Strategists.

in fact that is very odd. Venezuela, ecuador, peru, bolivia, and maybe argentina are mostly on the same page. Colomciba happens to stratgecially be the sore spot. Kind of like Israel in the middle East, Egypt in North Africa, South Korea and Japan in Eastern Asia....

Originally posted by DYepes
in fact that is very odd. Venezuela, ecuador, peru, bolivia, and maybe argentina are mostly on the same page.

Maybe they are all happy to be kept as independent currencies. Colombia being strategically closer to a potential North American currency may not want to be sucked into the Northern currency but prefer a southern one where they are the biggest player.