Apocalypse sooner or later

Before I start let me say, I have no wish to see anything negative happen to any of us; though I do have a few exceptions. Over the past few years I have read with a mixture of alarm and amusement the various doomsday dates, which have come and gone which I tend to attribute to out collective dismay at our environment; and the media depiction of an environmental/economic/other doomsday event on the horizon.

I am not an astronomer, nor do I have the time to look at these theories myself; other than other websites which are notoriously biased and subsequently unreliable for research purposes. I enjoy reading the 2012 and the UFO stuff, but seriously doubt we will every hear the truth of it; and like so many of life’s mysteries sometimes we are better not knowing or only seeing glimpses. I would say any state secrets are being kept for monetary reasons, i perceive of it being like a big state piggy bank *being kept for a rainy day) or something so tied up in secrets, lies and bureaucracy no one really knows, or can publicly admit to not knowing.

If we are about to go the way of the dodo, do you think we have it coming? I tend to wonder looking at our stewardship of the planet and how we treat one another, over resources, ideology, race and just lifestyle choices. I would say as much as I want change; it frightens me in terms of what we will have to change in our lives to do so; I imagine it would scare all of you too. Whilst it’s easy too blame corporations for our troubles, we each must accept that we have a part in this by buying their goods and services; and that any real positive change needs to be forced on us somehow.

I think the scary solution that I came to is that it may be necessary to wipe most of us out, simply because it’s the best way for change to occur; fewer people equals fewer resource drains and less of an social impact if our culture changes direction. Far fetched but we all know this may be coming with China, Russia etc catching up to the West in terms of technology etc, what has always bothered me is who survives will they set the same system again to ensure they stay at the top of the pyramid or will they take what’s coming with the rest of us.

Sorry if this appears incoherent

Your knowledge is insignificant too convince a slighty knowledged person in this subject.


If armageddon where too of happened, It would of happened in the cold war.

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Go watch the disclosure act on Yahoo.

We've came into contact with over 57 alien races - They would of told us if a giant meteorite or planet was going to collide with earth.

Also, they've stopped many nukes from being launched.

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Express knowledge not views.



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[edit on 1/3/08 by JAK]

Originally posted by Prophet-Ezekiel
We've came into contact with over 57 alien races - They would of told us if a giant meteorite or planet was going to collide with earth...

And then.....

Express knowledge not views.

Ta da!! The classic flip flop....

So where is this generally accepted knowledge base of 57 alien races? I've looked all over and the best I can find are fringe elements, less than neutral websites, or publishers with a financial stake.

57 alien races.....I admit, it could be.....but there is zero legitimate evidence for that.....making it pretty much a....view.

Being an avid reader of Timothy Good's books as they are an exciting read if anything else, he did mention that there were quite a number of different ailen races in visitation. Not sure which book it was, maybe Ailen Liasion, not too sure....

People have an intrinsic tendancy towards doomsday theories. For some reason people can't grasp the idea that many many generations have preceded us and many generations should follow.

Except people can't seem to grasp future generations; if you want proof of this have a look at how we treasure historical items and heritage yet we do very little to protect the future world. We are creatures of the past and it seems to suit a lot of people to believe that they are living in the end of days.

I think it would be good for every other species on the planet if humans disappeared almost completely, but in a few thousand years, we would be back where we are now, destroying nature and being all caught up in ourselfs and our insignificant lifes.

What we really need is a change in consciousness and hopefully that will come naturally with time. Wiping humans out almost completely will not cause any changes to our future mentality, it will only give the planet a period of resting and regrowth. But perhaps that is exactly what is needed.

I think its pretty insane to think humans are more important than any other species, yet we actually do think that, dont we...

All the suffering we have caused should reflect right back on us, thats only fair. We are stuck in this war/ego like mentality and not making any progress whatsoever when it comes to uniting people and creating happiness for all.

Human beings are a cancer to this planet, I dont think anyone can disagree with that. Our cities are big open wounds, causing pollution and flushing poison right out into the seas. Dont really see how we can be proud of anything or think we are better than animals. Not at all.

Who really needs us on this planet? No wonder we feel alone.


[edit on 2-3-2008 by Copernicus]

Well, well well... imagine my surprise, a posting all about Coppola's
lesser-known sequel Apocalypse Sooner or Later.
The original with Brando shows the depravity that men will go to and
the depths (you can get a Navy boat up there) that plague's the human soul.
That said, the musical numbers in the 2nd one were quite good!

The gang of desperado grunts (no offence... none taken, prepare for e-vac) that set out to 'wipe out' a Godfather from his limb-adorned haven were selected for their unique abilities.

Sgt Rock: not the one out of The Scorpion King or 'Are Stargates For Real?'
His skills at raising a single eyebrow and the ability to whistle while he works. Actually mentioned in a XTC song. (Fact... mostly).

Capt. Scott: Bang!! and the Cong are gone! His loud voice rang thru' the jungle proclaiming the virtues of Cillit. When asked if the chemical would falter on the cleaning of laid-back Harley's, there's that famous moment when he looks to the cannon smoked-filled sky and shouts "Get to the chopper" or the deleted scene "Are we Muthas?... We are Muthas"

'Bomber' Perlman: Did Hell-Boy, Beauty & The Beast with the pretty one out of Terminator. Expert in water-filled balloons and straight on thru the Chompas... she didn't say "screw that".
'Must be a chick-thing?' (A 'thumbs up' from John Saxon in Enter The Dragon?)

Finally, Private Dancer: A dancer for money, and any old music will do.
In depth knowledge of weapons, explosives and Earth, Wind & Fire.

When Fredo is cornered and Rock asks if he can help him, the look on Fredo's face during the 'you mean nothing to me now' speech, should certainly guarantee an Oscar.
Perlman plays an excellent cryptozoo... criptozol... a guy in ape suit, Rock relys on him for intel on Team ATS in Roswell NOW!, whatever that means.
'Dancer' shows how a younger generation can hope, believe that the horrors of war, can lead to a brighter future... It's your kids Marty, something's gotta be done about your kids.

I hope this helps to further the debate surrounding this little-known movie.
Do I get my £5 now?

[edit on 2-3-2008 by IronMan]