NASA Baffled by Unexplained Force Acting on Space Probes

That is an interesting idea you give me, Mooch.

is it possible that there are energy waves that are extremely long (like millions or billions of miles across)? if so, would they be capable of affecting the overall movement of our system?

Originally posted by Nsearch
reply to post by Guzzeppi

 

The unexplained force acting on the spacecraft is indeed the Red Dwarf star "Nemesis", formerly called by the Mayans "Murduk".
This huge star is on its way and with it comes several planets. One of which actually elongates its way into our solar system. This particular planet is called by the Mayans "Nibiru", today's name is "Eris", also formally known as "Planet X". The effects of Nibiru have been seen for over 130 years. Pluto was the first to change orbit. If I were you, I would look into it, very interesting stuff. There are going to be many many changes due to these foreign visits.

I have looked into Nibiru greatly and I find that there is no fact to back this up. I know recently the new video proclaiming to be Nibiru, but if it was truly there, there would be corroboration from all places on this earth. I do know that it is best seen supposedly from the south pole. Why wouldn't there be more stories of this new video if it were true. Not all countries play the same game as ours!

Thanks for your post!

Guz

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I recently read a blurb about 'the Theory of Everything' stating that gravity is simply the illusion created by expanding cells. IE when you drop a ball, it does not move, but the Earth 'expands' to meet it. It was really quite interesting, and it all burned up in the SD Firestorm last October. I wonder how this 'view' would explain these anomalies? Do you know where I can go to get this info? ;D

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Wow...that post seems to have been quite popular.

Umm...i don't have much in the way of links that i can share. I have some .pdf's, but i don't like linking to them too much (attention=pulling them down during future "maintenance").

I get much of my idea's from the Podkletnov and Li/Torr experiments. I have a thread on them here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

There are quite a few links. I haven't updated the anit-grav aspects of my research in quite awhile (I need to do that, i suppose).

Also, the concepts discussed in the cloaking thread i have:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This has pointed out to me that the energies that make up our reality are locked in a twisted, yet well hidden sameness. On a more spiritual bent, i am reminded of the belief of some ancient systems that our Creator is multifaceted, meaning that although he is differently percieved he is one in the same being.

Another piece of my belief in this is the knowledge that at places like Sandia, they are using extremely powerful lasers to create black holes for research. The concept here is that energy, at its most basic level, is equivalent to matter (that darn multifaceted Creator popping up again).

Finally, I am considering that the Plasma Cosmology principles are true (despite the protestations of classical, quantum ascribers in this forum). If this is true, then it is obvious that our star will recieve larger amounts of energy than at other times. This would explain many of the ice ages and warming trends that occur randomly throughout our past. It might also explain why these things happen so quickly. On a sidenote, i believe many of the mechanisms provided by science for how weather changes so rapidly are actually misplaced effects, not causative factors. But that is another story.

As i stated, there is no one single source for my statement in that post. I have done lots of different research and it is what i currently see as the most probable based on the research i have done.


[edit on 3-3-2008 by bigfatfurrytexan]

Along the same lines as the above:

A supercomputer has confirmed the Standard Model

The project's enormously complex calculations relate to the behaviour of tiny particles found in the nuclei of atoms, known as quarks. In order to carry out these calculations, the researchers first designed and built a supercomputer that was among the fastest in the world, capable of tens of trillions of calculations per second. The computations themselves have taken a further three years to complete.

Their result shows that the Standard Model's claim to be the best theory invented holds firm. It raises the stakes for the riddle to be solved by experiments at the Large Hadron Collider at CERN, which will switch on later this year. Physicists’ efforts to confront Standard Model predictions using the most powerful computers available with the most precise experiments offer no clues about what to expect.

I hear the band play some creepy song, and the plot thickens.

My question is, are we accounting for the physics and logic that was put into creating this supercomputer and the logic it used? If not, then that would be a key failure point for the experiment that i would see. It is logical that it would come to a similar conclusion, since its only input comes from people who designed the computer using these very same principles. Kind of like "garbage in/garbage out".

[edit on 3-3-2008 by bigfatfurrytexan]

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
That is an interesting idea you give me, Mooch.

is it possible that there are energy waves that are extremely long (like millions or billions of miles across)? if so, would they be capable of affecting the overall movement of our system?

energy waves can be any size,theres an upper limit to the size natural ones can be created due to a limit on natual energy sources,but articialy pretty much the span of the universe is the limit.

hmmm i wonder what wave a collapsing supermassive black hole creates....


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I suspect its all due to hotorientz-wave hegeresentation. The durient waves are closely combining, so much so that the palient envelopes are collapsing against eachother, absorbing and giving each other snugglets. Either that, or it's the bozzle-bearings.

I think this can only mean that we are living a plasmatic universe dominated by constantly uposting bovenian exhaust manifolds

Originally posted by notme11
all i'm saying is that predictions from ancient history are folding RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR VERY EYES!! Just stop and look. We are living in a VERY important time. And this gravity thing happened yesterday...WHAT COULD HAPPEN A FEW WEEKS OR MONTHS FROM NOW?? I have a bad feeling about this...

Calm down, calm down.

It's just some science that hasn't been explained yet. It's an uncatalogued event or combination of events having a miniscule effect on a tiny little artificial satellite.

Space is largely dark. If there's something that isn't reflecting light, it could be deviating the speeds and possibly trajectories of orbital and extra-orbital objects by fragments of a per cent.

If there are eddies in gravity, which there surely must be, then we can expect wobbly bits of space here and there, but no more than a ripple on a still pond when a breeze passes by.

I repeat:

This is science. New science. Exciting science. It's why scientists go to work.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by WhiteWash

 

Interesting idea. If gravity and EM force are related, then it would explain much.

The "birkeland currents" would be one such source of said "ley lines".

There was a great Nova show on the Beautiful Universe, which top physicists and scientists attempt to prove string theory as well as joining gravity and EM. Still has not been done and its doubtful it will be in our life time. Its all best guess for the time being- unless we have been lied to and are purposely being kept in the dark because available info could hurt the global elitist and reveal vulnerabilities.

Originally posted by Guzzeppi

Originally posted by Aaron_Justin
Perhaps there are electro-magnetic gulf streams in space that we are not aware of that cause these anomolies. Obviously, I have no proof or facts to back up this claim, it is just an idea.

I like your idea, but we need to get proof to back up your hypothesis. Please do some research if you have time.

Electromagnetism is in our galaxy as gravity is on earth.

I've been writing a thesis paper on electromagnetism for a year now and I have been looking at some interesting information. My "paper" isn't finished yet, but I am convinced that electromagnetism is probably the most important force in the universe (save for perhaps gravity). I've done other papers for college coarses, including everything from "science and the paranormal" to fraud committed by fake healthcare companies. I decided to do the electromagnetism paper on my own time rather than choosing it for on of my classes.

Electricity, in general, is what keeps us alive. electromagnetism is responsible for maintaining the survival of all living species on earth, even at the most fundamental biological level.

Posted this cuz I think you might be interested in reading my paper (at least when it is done)

-ChriS

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Another article linked to from the one posted by guzzeppi Newfound Data . This is dated 27 March 2007 and states that: "...Researchers want to determine whether heat from Pioneer probes’ electronics or two nuclear power sources—known as radioisotope thermal generators (RTGs)—could be emitting infrared photons that then smack into the spacecraft’s dish-like main antenna, causing a recoil effect that Turyshev likened to sunlight striking a solar sail.

Analysis and modeling of how the Pioneer 10 spacecraft emits heat from various sources, including its RTG, found that they account for between 55 percent and 75 percent of Pioneer Anomaly, said Gary Kinsella, a group supervisor for spacecraft thermal engineering and flight operations at JPL. ..."

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I've been following Mr. Hoagland's work and theory myself and do find it very intriguing. It seems he is busy trying to prove his theories at least. If any one is interested go here and check out the article on his site.

Whether or not the satellites are an example of this or not is as viable of an option at this point it would seem.


oh and PLANET X! PLANET X! jk....but who knows

Originally posted by Guzzeppi


It may be that Nasa doesn't quite know it all. We are always learning new things at it pertains to our universe. At least they admitted they were wrong. A first step and unprecedented in my book. What is causing this ATS? Any answers out there?

Guz

www.space.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

True but something is to blame. For all we know it is a hint to the complexities of the gravity feild of our sun since the spacecraft seemingly accelerated in a trajectory moving toward the sun. It's very easy to speculate but much more difficult to really know why this has been occuring.

The researchers looked at five deep-space probes — Galileo to Jupiter, the NEAR mission to the asteroid Eros, the Rosetta probe to a comet, Cassini to Saturn, and the MESSENGER craft to Mercury. Each spacecraft flew past the our planet to either gain or lose orbital energy in their quests to reach their eventual targets. (Galileo made two flybys.)

In five of the six flybys, the scientists have confirmed anomalies.

This points to the gravity assists themselves creating anomalous flight patterns that stray from the expected flight paths. There could potentially be irregularities or imperfections in the gravity feild itself that is causing this.

-ChriS