2nd figure on mars found?

reply to post by rikriley


Thank you rik!

the above pictures of that "humanoid" creature I posted (which looks like it changes positions, in the 3 pictures NASA sspirit rover took) did not fit in the area of "rocks" it "stood -out", very clearly.

Also, it being cold on Mars, the "fur" on the creature seems most natual. If you magnify the face area you can make out the "pale color" of the face.

It seems to be looking right at the rover!!

Ruff

Think about it like 2 radio channels interfering with each other as you ride down the interstate between 2 cities.Photographically you are getting 2 streams,2 radio channels.But sometimes they overlap and form details from both into a composite image photographically,delivering bits of both streams mixed up.Or you could think of it as exposing the same photographic film twice,a double-image. The reason I know about this at all is 1987 I came up with it on my own.Have you ever heard of GLASS PLATE photography? Stack plates of pictures up on each other(glass plates) and you see THRU both of the plates and some interference from overlap takes place(usually).Same thing when 2 slide show slides accidentally jam the machine and appear together. Or try this,tearing out a typical page in a magazine and holding it up to sunlight....so you can see the print from the other side of the paper bleeding thru and interupting your image(pic). That explains simply why the Nasa Mars pics are corrupted.It's all about packets of data getting mixed up. But later on when more people report independently seeing much the same things we report seeing in Mars photos,then people will ask in earnest,why this group of people seem so excited with joy of realizing we're not alone,that life is abundant on just the next planet over there,reasonably within reach in our lifetimes.When independent people see the same things,people ,creatures,fossils.Then later Nasa will be shown(like the Emperor's Invisible Clothes) to be hiding the truth(info manipulation). I'd put my money on Europeans to break the real story,since their best interests have been thus far hampered,dampened down. See the animal's head she is sitting on? I do,but haven't unmasked it for you yet.It's like a big gecko with a pointed mouth slightly open,symetrical and mathching shadow. Now look at the OFFICIAL pic vs mine...See the jumble where mine is clean? Explain it. There are living things all around her but masked out,hidden. How is THAT a rock or statue? Are we children? The "statue" is ALONE. True or False?

reply to post by vze2xjjk


vze, at first when I started viewing photos years ago from Mars I thought I was seeing in another dimension. I thought it could be interference of transmission scramble from Mars to Earth. Like you said in many cases the satellite and ground zero photos appear to be overlapped.

Although many think of this as entertainment but what vze is showing you that life exists in massive numbers on the surface of Mars. He is showing that the unmasking of these photos is the breakthrough we on Earth have been waiting for as proof.

It was my hope that ESA would come thru and divulge their findings but I feel they have a pact with NASA and our secret space program to withhold the truth of their findings about life on Mars. Rik Riley









[edit on 29-2-2008 by rikriley]

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On a lighter note,this is NOT ,I repeat NOT,Bill Clinton campaigning for Hillary on Mars in a whistle-stop.

Smaller tighter pic shown here is from Spirit hazcam sol 1475,pic 2 of 2. I had to turn the pic 90 degrees to have the "faces" standing upright. During multiple exposures/overlapping Mars imagery,there's a "spin cycle" that rotates the images in 90 degree increments( zero,90,180,270 degrees) so that the "ground " can be spun around in a circle as a reference point.Let's say you wanted to overlap 3 pics onto one frame to save transmission time and were not terribly concerned about OVERLAP because your filters at home could see perfectly past the interference with no degradation. You'd probably want to keep the sky clear,so you'd take the (90,zero,270 degrees turn)combination,so the ground blacked out just the sides and bottom of the frame.If you went with 4 frames in one you'd get a circular pattern of clarity but overlap in the middle of the pics with the outer edges dark,sort of a tunnel vision effect. Those 3 or 4 images sent at the time of one sent from a cache of hundreds ,thousands or more images saves transmission time and energy. It depends on memory. If you were in 1987 designing for limited memory it would make more sense why such a miserly system. Bill Clinton was eyeing the Presidency of the United States at the time. My computer friends were talking about the World Wide Web. I had a pic of Gorby on my wall and a pic of Mars.I was determined to beat the Russians to Mars. 1987.

Here's my worst nightmare,some tipping over of Pathfinder's rover Sojourner and losing all science it could have done because it's stuck halfway upside down. The spiked wheels worked as they were designed,but I would have reprimanded the driver for unneccessarily endangering a millions of dollars mission and F U T U R E missions in the eyes of American taxpayers if he KILLED it by tipping it over,but that's more infuriatingly likely than you can realize,because if one of the innocent live creatures curiously gathered around Pathfinder could have TIPPED IT OVER accidently having no clue they destroyed the first rover on Mars.Sojourner had no ability to right itself.Only an understanding Mars man,woman or child could have done the simple picking it up and righting it. If some Mars kid now has the rover in his house as a souvenier,he/she may be getting some radiation. Those animals I mentioned.You need good eyes to see this,so don't worry if you can't.You probably see everything you want to see .... just fine.

reply to post by vze2xjjk


I'll be frank with you:
to start from an original image whatsoever and to apply filter doesn't help me in order to assest if you really are showing something or not.
I told you one time that i like to look at original images: it's not so hard: if there's something actually odd, just crop the area of interest: but so, i guess that you wouldn't have many chances to be taken seriously: the difference between me and some other mebers is the i'm stating it clearly, while someone else prefers to joke/to fool/to ignore.
Now, in the following video there's a series of formations that for some reasons are OUT of the ordinary but that of course don't prove the existence of artificial formations on Mars: it's a compilation of formations on Mars: something has been spotted by me, something else by some other ATSers, something else by other people, no matter who spot something: what does matter is that if our actual purpose is to research, then there are moral rules to respect: if our purpose is to joke, then ATS offers a series of alternative forums included Skunk Works and Jokes and Pranks.

Since i'm sure that you are putting your efforts in order to prove the existance of life (present / past) please accept this hint: just post MSSS-moc or SOl images and leave the ATSer to decide if there's something there or not.
That's just a FRIENDLY hint given by someone who likes to discuss alternative topics.
Regards,
Internos ...


[edit on 2/3/2008 by internos]

I'm usually one of the first people to see potential stuff, but that's probably part of the rock. Unless the far/right side of the rock juts out, it's not a shadow. But looking at other rocks in the area, there is quite a bit of darkening on some of the other rock faces that aren't shadows either. We're looking at an impact site here, so it stands to reason that things would get scorched from the explosion when the asteroid hit. At least it would make sense to me.

At any rate, when zoomed, sharpened and brightened, it becomes very clear (to me) that it's either a shadow or darkening of the rock face from other processes. If it really is a being, then why isn't it casting a shadow??

Female Rocks on Mars Oh I guess Nasa mentioned her too.

reply to post by internos

My purpose trying to find life on Mars is corrupted by image masking by Nasa,so that extreme efforts at discovery are needed before the results are like VIKING 30 years ago,dismissed as just rocks. Levin found life on Mars,and he knows it.We all can't see faces on Mars,and some see just rocks.I'm not willing to play dead and have kids textbooks describe Mars as a dead planet as was done 1960's,1970's,1980's,1990's,2000's to me,since I know otherwise. I requested the Pathfinder landing site be renamed upon the death of Carl Sagan as the Carl Sagan Memorial Station.He died of cancer a mere half year before Sojourner rolled off.My request was in April 1987. Sagan had inspired me into ACTION on my own.Roddenberry and others like Disney,Von Braun,JFK,John Lennon also made their marks on me.I created a monster movie fave called Predator who searches out and hunts Aliens. They take acid from the vanquished prey and mark themselves with a Kanji mark that represents the Alien in profile. If Nasa can't deliver the goods and show you life on Mars,who will do the job? (crickets)

Originally posted by D_Hoffman
I'm usually one of the first people to see potential stuff, but that's probably part of the rock. Unless the far/right side of the rock juts out, it's not a shadow. But looking at other rocks in the area, there is quite a bit of darkening on some of the other rock faces that aren't shadows either. We're looking at an impact site here, so it stands to reason that things would get scorched from the explosion when the asteroid hit. At least it would make sense to me.

At any rate, when zoomed, sharpened and brightened, it becomes very clear (to me) that it's either a shadow or darkening of the rock face from other processes. If it really is a being, then why isn't it casting a shadow??

If you will focus your attention directly above the anomaly's extended arm you will see the sequence of letters and number S4SE concentrate and the sequence will pop up it will take your eyes a while to adjust to see. Rik Riley

Great photo, and well spotted!

I don't want to dampen down the mystery by stating it is probably a rock. It's just that to me, it does look like the shadow (albeit an interesting one) of a partially buried ..................................... rock.

Thing in the sky-possibly above small out post.

Found (counting from left to right) on pictures # 5 and #6 at :Spirit: All Raw Images; Navigation Camera :: Sol 1470 (26 images).

How to see it : look at the uper left of 1st of said two photos, look for "thing in sky", look below thing in sky(below and to the right on hill), see what looks like "small ingloo" and possible attached structures next to ingloo on hill to the right and below "thing in sky".

Notice how thing in sky "moves" in first photo, to second photo. now "ingloo" is almost right below "thing in sky". Kinda cool, eh?

1st photo: marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov...

2nd photo : marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov...

reply to post by vze2xjjk


vze. since you exposed NASA masking the rover photos from Mars have you noticed they have really stepped up a notch on masking the resent photos. Do not kid yourself NASA has their people tuning in to what we are seeing. Rik Riley

Originally posted by bseven
That is weird looking.It kind of looks like a tree stump to me.

Same here...I may be missing something but it looks like a tree to me.

I don't know...a tree.

Has any one else found very many "things in the sky" on the rover pictures
(like the ones I posted above) ? I remembeer "one" a while back, that was very weird.

I try to find the ones that seem to "move" from photo to photo.

Also, I notice things that are "just" out of reach...ain't that always the case!

ok, I found a site that shows a UFO that the rovers took pics of..here
UFO on Mars Picture collection - Mars Rovers Discoveries
www.unexplainable.net...

go up 4 post and check mine out also. You can see that things are flying around.

Or? maybe all just dust on camera lens?


source from : www.unexplainable.net



[edit on 16-3-2008 by RUFFREADY]

If you take the picture and rotate it 90 degrees clockwise, so that your mind does not try to see it as a person, you see it as a combination of the shadow between two rocks, combined with the shadow of a rock behind it.

Originally posted by spikedmilk
Hmmm, it does look interesting.... I wont shout rock, but I'm not sure what too make of it

[edit on 18-2-2008 by spikedmilk]

I will. It's a freaking rock. I really wish you people that post these pictures would use some common sense before you post. I'm a fairly new ATS member and I've already spent an immense amount of time wading through garbage like this. Sure, it's interesting for about a tenth of a second until you realize you're just looking at rocks.

Use some discernment before you post. It will save you some time and it will save the rest of us a lot of time.

yeah, but if you do that ...it will crash and burn into the Mars desert...and those little dudes are better flyers than that! I use to chase them all the time!

What we need to do is just keep watching and waiting for NASA to slip.