Aliens, Bird People, and Reocurring Numbers

Hi, I'm a long-time reader, first time poster. I first became interested in the subject of extraterrestrial life when I was in grade 12. I guess I was interested before then, when I was a little kid; I remember one day when I was maybe 7 or 8, I said to my dad "what if there's a planet far far away that was just like earth only the sky's orange instead of blue and people are yellow?". But something that happened when I was in grade 12 strenghtened and rekindled my interest in the subject.

Many days of my grade 12 period one class were spent with some of my friends slacking off at our table, but specifically with the girl who I sat beside, talking and drawing things like designs or crazy cartoon characters. I guess I never noticed it until she pointed it out to me, but I tended to draw one "crazy cartoon character" a lot more often than I drew anything else. In particular, I tended to draw a bird-like guy with dark circles for eyes, a beak of course, a long neck which went into a human-like body, except for his hands and feet which had less fingers on the hand and no toes at all. I made nothing of it at the time, but looking back on previous doodles we did that week and even month, he did tend to pop up noticeably frequently.

Not too long after that, I started to watch a show called "What Were They Thinking?" hosted by Sean Cullen (who's oddly enough performing on the Comedy station right now) which was about the oddities different cities and towns are known for (ie. strange monuments, peculiar festivals). It wasn't long after I started watching the series when an episode about UFOs came on. Having always been kind of interested in UFO's, I made sure to watch this one. After the first half of the episode, hearing all sorts of people describe their experiences with aliens, eventhough I didn't believe all of them, I couldn't help but to think about the aspects many of the claims had in common. So many people, in so many places in the world, describing seeing the same things or beings. In the second half of the show a lady was interviewed who claimed she was invited onto an alien space craft. Once on board, she says she was shown many times of life forms, and informed of the craft's size - about the size of chicago. She says she was then shown to the captain of the ship, whom she later drew a picture of. I was stunned when she showed the picture of the "captain", and it resembled exactly the bird character I had drawn many times before, almost absently mindedly.

Now, I had to look this up on the internet to see if anyone else has ever seen a Bird Alien. There's not too much out there on Bird Aliens, but there were some pictures of what they may look like, and they too resemble mine and the lady's drawings. While researching strange things, I also decided to look up the number 444. Ever since I was in grade 9, I had been seeing the number constantly, on clocks, receipts, cash totals, phone numbers, licence plates, etc. I always wondered if it meant anything, so I finially got around to looking up "the meaning of 444". I was extremely stunned and a little freaked out to see that people all over the world are also seeing these tripple numbers, and the general opinion is that it means angels are watching over. I also read that the other strange things I was experiencing such as lights turning on or off when I walked by, seeing glitter in the air randomly, and getting a tingley feelings were also attributed to the number sightings.

After reading many other posts on here, I kind of get the feeling the two things - Aliens and Angels - might be related. Does anyone know anything about any of this, or have any thoughts concerning Bird People or the relation between aliens and angels? Thanks a lot for reading.

reply to post by spotnick


You may want to look into the "bird people" of the past. The most famous are probably the Garuda and the Tengu, but almost every ancient culture has had some form of human/bird hybrid.

While many have drawn connections between angels and aliens, it may be a mistake for you to look for a connection between angels and your bird-aliens simply because they appear to share a common attribute.

Angels appearing as winged-humanoids is a modern invention; artists from the reinessance and later eras were inspired by images of Classical gods such as Nike and Eros. The wings on angels in art are not meant to depict literal wings, but rather stand as a symbol of the otherworldly origin.

In Biblical lore, the descriptions of angels are a far-cry from how they are later depicted in art. In their "natural" form they are described as being composed of fire and light. They can appear as human, but are described as being indistinguishable from ordinary, albeit beautiful, humans.

That is not to say that angels are never described having wings. But wings are the only attribute they share with birds, other attributes are very unbird like. Cherubs have wings, but look like a Classical sphynx, or Babylonian shedu. Seraphim, while described having wings, are also described as being fiery serpents.

That being said, there could be a connection between aliens and birds. There is a theory held among some UFO believers that the aliens are actually dinosaurs who evolved intelligence and were able to escape the mass extinction. Dinosaurs never really went extinct; when scientists talk about dinosaur extinction, they say "non-avian dinosaurs." It may be more plausable that the "aliens" did not evolve from non-avian dinosaurs, but rather share a common ancestor with birds.

Okay, I'd like to clear up what I'm trying to ask because it's kind of hard to gather my meaning through my little essay there.

The simularity or connection between angels and aliens isn't a physical one, I feel, and I don't mean the connection between just the Bird Aliens and angels, but rather the connection between ANY extraterrestrials and the angels or spirits that appear to me, and so many others, in ANY form.

By angels appearing, I also don't mean your typical angel with wings and halos, but I'll see little dots of light flying around that you can actually look at from different angles, so it's not just those specs in your eyes that move when you look at them. When they show up I'll usually get a tingley feeling, and a lot of the time it will be 4:44 or 11:11 on the clock.

By connection between spirits/angels and aliens, I refer to posts on here like those from John Lear, who talk about the aliens literally working with spirits and such.

Interesting. Any chance we could see a picture of your drawing? I'll surely free up some space on my account so you can post it. Also, a link to other reproductions or similar creatures would be cool. Thanks.

the only "true" aliens are the greys, since they have been in 2 of the most significant cases (Roswell & Barney Hill) with a lot of witness's or backup evidence. Everything else is pure bunk in my humble opinion.

reply to post by SaviorComplex


awesome post,pretty much what i was going to say at some point.

the human mind seems to concentrate heavily on imagry,they see angels as beings with wings for the reasons you explain, and so they only believe that an angel can be an angel if it has wings and thus conforms to thier mental construct of what an angel is.

angels are also assosciated with beauty,and demons/monsters with uglyness,once again purely a result of how they were represented in the artistic creations of our past that themselves reflected the human values of thier painters/creators.

"tengu are mythical half man half bird creatures that live among pines and cryptomeria trees near mountain temples. the most recent report of a tengu spotting was by british anthropologist carmen blacker in 1963 on mount kurama japan"

journal of asian martial arts volume 16 number 2 2007