What are the chances that Aliens are all in the mind?

reply to post by wow23

Excellent video, but again, that is not the proof that we need. There is nothing on that Video that shows that it was shoot by NASA.

yes it is compelling footage, and yes i cannot personally verify it's authenticity.
however i believe it is commonly accepted to be the real thing from NASA.

but here lyes the problem:

you seem to be looking for very recent photo or video proof of ufo's and i think those day's of being able to authenticate something is long gone because of the technology that is easily manipulated to produce hoaxes.

so what i am saying is your not gonna get any recent photograph or video and be able to say without a doubt that it is real. what seems to happen is you get the " it's real " " no its fake " argument.

here is an example:

this was a ufo video that was taken in Turkey in 2007 and it was automatically dismissed as a hoax by scientists but they supposedly never studied the video.

"TURKEY UFOS ARE REAL CRAFT" SCIENCE CONCLUDES

What do the people of this planet need to convince them something is here? It’s now time to understand evidence is out there that is not someone’s fantasy, not a hoax.

ufomedia.blogspot.com...
UFO Media Matters


i had a difficult time getting those video's in the article to download... they were slow for some reason.

but my point really is, once again you have the its real ...no its fake argument.



here is a good article about getting to the bottom of the ufo question;

We've been trying to narrow down what secrets the government has been hiding from us involving the whole UFO phenomenon. The problem is there's too much information and disinformation in circulation.

Bob Lazar is another so-called whistleblower who has come out of the government closet, who claimed that he analyzed an alien spacecraft at Area 51.

ezinearticles.com...,-Part-3&id=686466
Dark Conspiracies and Extraterrestrial Secrets, Part 3

this link is not working correctly for some reason so you have to click on the first search selection here...
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dark conspiracies and extraterrestrial secrets,part 3 - Google Search






i also found some interesting statistics on some polls that were taken. they are kinda old but they do make a point that some people do believe that ufo's are imaginary.

What do you think these saucers are?

· No answer, don't know 33%
· Imagination, optical illusions, mirages 29%
· Hoax 10%
· U.S. secret weapon 15%
· Weather forecasting device 3%
· Russian secret weapon 1%
· Searchlights on airplanes 2%
· Other explanations 9%

www.mufon.com...
Mutual UFO Network


www.aufosg.com...
Alberta UFO - General Statistics



so in conclusion i have to say that finding that smoking gun photo or video is gonna be difficult and its the reason we are all here imho.




but here is a video that clearly shows a couple aliens that come from a spaceship and try to conquer the world......

www.youtube.com...






[edit on 17-2-2008 by easynow]

reply to post by easynow



Easynow I take everything you have said on board, and must say you have some excellent points friend.

I know that getting this somking gun will be hard, but if it is there we will get it. There is one thing about people that want the truth, they will work hard to get it. The technology that we have now makes it almost impossible to get true evidence. Wouldn't it be fantastic if a news crew caught a UFO live on camera and broke the story live?

I would love to see the Air Force / Government explain that.

I would have to say that we may never know the truth. We have had people promise it for many a year and nothing is forthcoming. We are dealing with highly intelligent people, who know how to cover their tracks. I hate sounding like I do not believe, because I do, but I am also a person who likes cold hard fact.

reply to post by wow23


well i am glad you like my input even though i am not an expert in this field by any means. i base my judgments on mostly common sense and i am beginning to realize that i am gonna have to think way outside the box to figure this thing out.

now as far as flying saucers (ufo's) ...i have to say that with all the pictures and video that have been taken since the early 1900's....imho there's no way for me to believe that all of them are just imagined.

i believe some of the sightings of ufo's are imagined or all in your mind. but there is way too much photographic evidence to be the case every time .

my personal experience that i entertained back in 1984 was something i will never forget and i have to admit when i finally realized what i was seeing i immediately thought...am i imagining this ?....it was my first thought because i didnt want to believe i was hallucinating...lol


so i often wonder how many people that see ufo's react the way i did ?





well i wanted to share a really good article with you that was shown to me earlier today by Internos . i really like these type of cases because they seem to come from reliable witnesses imho.

www.popularmechanics.com...
The 6 UFO Sightings THEY Can't Explain - Popular Mechanics



if a t.v. news crew filmed a real ufo or flying saucer i believe it would be censored or the video would be confiscated.

so i wouldnt expect a real flying saucer to show up on the news in the way we would want it too.

here is a case where a news crew filmed one of those "rods" flying near an airport and the FBI interrogated them.

www.youtube.com...
YouTube - U.S. T.V. News Films UFO at Airport, FBI Interrogates Crew



here is one where a news crew set out to actually film a ufo and was successful !... i think there should be more of this done imho

ufos.about.com...
1978-Kaikoura UFO Photograph



[edit on 18-2-2008 by easynow]

I can understand that, but the fact that they set out to film one leaves it open to the fact that maybe they have faked it?

I admit that it's slightly possible that the UFOs we see are all man-made, but then there's still a terrible cover up going on, in that case. Possibly world-changing technologies are being kept a secret from the public for some selfish reason!

I don't think it's ALL in the mind, but some of it may be. There are lots of things that can be mistaken for UFOs, but sometimes we just can't explain things. I personally think that at least some UFO reports are of actual alien UFOs.

Also, why wouldn't aliens visit Earth sometimes? Just because we can't visit other stars yet doesn't mean some other race doesn't know how.

reply to post by GrayFox


If somebody doesn't believe in the existance of Zeta Reticulum and its neighbouring star systems then please don't respond. I've examined the entire Bob Lazar website and pondered on it, admiring the documentation for its cohesiveness. Already having a strong notion that life outside our solar system is for real, I'm under the impression that there is a universal code of survival of mutual respect among all living things and, to do with non-interference and the path of natural selection.

Is anybody with me on this?

Is anyone out there......?

It is not my intention to draw upon witness statements or vague unsubstantiated visual footage when the www is saturated with a myriad of claims from a wide population of head scratchers and those who devote their time to gather any evidence that E.T. may have left behind - e.g. crop circles.
Many years have marched on since the remote and sparsely populated area where I lived was witnessing a rash of U.F.O. sightings. I even saw one myself with four family witnessess present.
This kickstarted me to research the phenomena that we, as a family, witnessed that day.
In the wake of our local sightings came more news & reports of U.F.O's, this location was in Warminster, Wiltshire, England.
There was a certain parallel to our experiences except for one main addition... Warminster (supposedly) claimed e.t. was active in the area and various witnessess clamed to have seen them.....!!
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******* Are extraterrestials in the mind.. ******* ?
Well.......................I think so!