AS14-74-10211 cropped arial

Hi Everyone,

my first post! hi guys!

Looking through stuff on the net, has anyone seen this before? it looks like it's sitting on a possible govt based computer somewhere . . .



what the? looks like a pod based worker with purple light emanating from its front opening.
Looks like it's on the moon, looking at the limited terrain.

It's certainly not something I've seen on earth before.

....uh.... that would be an Apollo lunar module... they use it to land on the moon...

reply to post by FlakeMaker


Are you serious?

I think you will find a lot of pictures with that in it, if you look around.

Here you can find the original image from NASA.
history.nasa.gov...
Is there someone able to show me a convincing comparison between Apollo 14 LM and what we see here?


I'm not asking a link to a website in which there is written that it's the LM: i'm asking to see a convincing comparison: i'm already aware that Here the caption reads: View of the LM thru the CSM Crewman Optical Alignment Sight (COAS).

The caption of AS14-74-10210
www.lpi.usra.edu...
Reads:
Description: LUNAR MODULE SEPARATION BEFORE LANDING

The caption of AS14-74-10212
www.lpi.usra.edu...
Reads:
Description: LUNAR MODULE JETTISON

The caption of AS14-74-10211 (the one in question)
www.lpi.usra.edu...
Reads:
Description: UNIDENTIFIED

And why the higher res version is GONE from here? history.nasa.gov...

It's the only missing one between
AS14-74-10205
and
AS14-74-10222


[edit on 15/2/2008 by internos]

Yep, the Lunar Module story doesn't convince me either.

From the top, the lunar module is much more symmetrical



And its extremities (right hand torch) don't look so large as to stand out so far making the whole thing so top-heavy.

And the missing hi-res image mentioned by internos makes me wonder too.

reply to post by FlakeMaker


Problem is a human would need a pretty darn good timing to take a picture of the lunar module from exactly the top. I think the bottom of the picture is the top of the module, but still hard to tell because of the bad quality.

A friend sent me the image in question some time ago.
At the time, i've made many comparisons but i've not found a single clue that it was Antares.
A comparison may (and MUST) be made with the same series:
now, if we look at the sequence of the shots, we will notice that the object
looks totally different: i've been unable to recognize a single part of it:


Object


LM


LM


There are some details that don't appear neither in LM photos nor in the
technical drawings, unless i'm missing something here...
Besides, look at the background: that's the only shot in which the Moon is
visible. Add to these details the mysterious vanishing of that specific hi res
photo from the archive, and the description which reads UNIDENTIFIED on LPI catalogue...

Anyway, finally, i've found some POSSIBLE matches, but they are vague to say the least, as you can see:


I also would like to point out that IMHO it's a MAN MADE device, (pheraps an additional module that should have been hidden to the public, it wouldn't be the first time that for some reason devices are carried secretly) simply caught on camera by mistake.
I made all these comparisons in order to try to provide a ordinary explanation, not the contrary, but frankly, it seems that there's a couple of problems here...

Credits, sources & references:

nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov...
nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov...
history.nasa.gov...
www.lpi.usra.edu...


[edit on 20/2/2008 by internos]

reply to post by FlakeMaker

It is definitely the LEM during its ASCENT from the Moon -- that's why you don't see the symmetrical legs, since the legs are left on the Moon for ascent.

Here's a photo of Apollo 17's LEM during the ascent phase from the Moon. I cropped and rotated 180 degrees to match the OP's photo, then put it alondside the OP's photo for reference:



One can clearly see that these are photos of identical spacecraft (although one is Apollo 14 and one is Apollo17)

Here is the original Apollo 17 LEM ascent stage photo from which I got my cropped-rotated image:



[edit on 2/20/2008 by Soylent Green Is People]

reply to post by FlakeMaker


the reason it doesn't look like that is that this is an image of the LEM after it has left the moon and is approaching the CM for docking. It's lower portion is still on the surface of the moon.

Originally posted by disownedsky
reply to post by FlakeMaker

 

the reason it doesn't look like that is that this is an image of the LEM after it has left the moon and is approaching the CM for docking. It's lower portion is still on the surface of the moon.

No.
Magazine 74 shows the sequence of the LM separation.


reply to post by Soylent Green Is People

Excellent:
however, that's apollo 17 module, i see the match in SOME parts of the module (and the perspective is the one that you've posted): but look at the bottom and you'll see that we have a square Vs. a round. And anyway, there's a lot of images of Antares, why do not compare Antares with Antares?
I think that the image in question is out of series, pheraps has been inserted there by mistake: the hi-res version would have been helpful, but sadly HAS BEEN REMOVED.
In the lower part, where is expected to be a CUBE, i see a rounded shape.


HERE there's a video of the Apollo 14 LM lift-off and CSM docking: do you see the cube in the upper part of the module? I see the rounded shapes of antenna and rendez-vous antenna; eva antenna is closed-umbrella shaped, so what's that cube? And where can we see it in Antares?


[edit on 20/2/2008 by internos]

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
reply to post by FlakeMaker

 

It is definitely the LEM during its ASCENT from the Moon -- that's why you don't see the symmetrical legs, since the legs are left on the Moon for ascent.

Here's a photo of Apollo 17's LEM during the ascent phase from the Moon. I cropped and rotated 180 degrees to match the OP's photo, then put it alondside the OP's photo for reference:



One can clearly see that these are photos of identical spacecraft (although one is Apollo 14 and one is Apollo17)

Here is the original Apollo 17 LEM ascent stage photo from which I got my cropped-rotated image:



[edit on 2/20/2008 by Soylent Green Is People]

Yep that is deffinately it.
What I find amazing is in that comparison straight lines at close proximietys look correct and detailed. But when near or on the surface these right angles and straight lines look blurred and more roundish.
Hence why the debate over this pic.
Now if you apply the rounded edge theory we see above to many of the Sat moon images you start yo think maybe some of those interesting/organised Rock formations arent just Rocks. Hmm...
Excellent posts.

reply to post by VType


I agree
I think that Soylent Green Is People has made a very enlightening post: i'm just wondering about small discrepancies, but i guess that the apparent differences can have been generated even by some issue of the camera: besides, i don't think that the camera that caught that specific image is the same that caught all the rest of the shots: so many ordinary explanations are possible, and anyway kudos to Soylent Green Is People.