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-"A human being is part of the whole called by us the Universe. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest --a kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures, and the whole of nature in its beauty."

---Albert Einstein.



Love will save our universe.

Cool, Einstein was scientific as well as poetic, a very good combination.

So, I suppose this means that we should embrace with compassion aliens in the universe, especially the ones that visit our planet?

Scientists do not believe in spirituality thus there is not titanic battle between light and dark. Therefore to a scientist there is no evil aliens either. I find this to be a limiting idea.

This is about aliens or UFOs?

To put this thread on some track regarding the subject at hand, I think Einstein was made aware of a lot of the stuff our government kept hidden from the public regarding ET visitation. IMO, it was Einstein's job to keep us more in the dark by proposing theories he already knew to be wrong. By giving us scientific theories on the improbability of deep space travel, he allowed skeptics to use it as a crutch against evidence to the contrary that what was considered impossible was already occuring to our planet. Just as bad a scientist as Carl Sagan. Keeping us in the dark to promote their own version of how things are.

Originally posted by heelstone
By giving us scientific theories on the improbability of deep space travel,

What's in special and general relativity that makes deep spave travel improbable? Time dilation from special relativity even makes it easier. Both theories have also been proven right with a lot of experiments.

What's in special and general relativity that makes deep spave travel improbable? Time dilation from special relativity even makes it easier. Both theories have also been proven right with a lot of experiments.

The special theory of relativity, from what I understand is, the closer towards the speed of light you are, the more massive you get, and the more energy it takes to push that mass, so it would be fairly improbable to get past the speed of light to enable deep space travel.

Also, even if you would reach the speed of light, thats still not fast enough to get very far in our universe. The only practical method of deep space travel would be to break the speed of light or find some way to bend space.

It doesn't matter if Einstein's theories ring true to some degree. Einstein knew his theories would be used to keep the progress of science down and to allow skeptics to deflate the idea that ET visitation was happening despite the ability of everyday civilians to witness and report on objects that apparently did not originate from this planet. The same kind of scientific hoodwinking that the Condon Report used to justify its assertion that ET visitation is not happening despite evidence to the contrary. The whole "we say its physically impossible, so its not happening, and we're scientists so we know what we're talking about" thing that goes on with the denial of the reality of this subject.

[Edited on 31-12-2003 by heelstone]

Relativity is one of the most tested theories in history. The increase of mass you talk about has been verified by experiments by W Kaufman (1901 -> even before the theory), A. Bucherer (1909), C. Lavanchy (1915) and many more. It's actually required for the invariance of conservation of momentum for inertial observers (source: Alonso-Finn, Fundamental University Physics). Other effects of relativity have also been verified. Cosmic particles coming from the universe with speeds near the speed of light have a much longer time before they decay.