If this is true, it makes Yellowstone and nukes look like a minor threat!

reply to post by BANDS


I'm going to put a bid in for air being the replacing medium. The reason that I say this is that after the vacuum was breached, air could have begun to filter into the cavity. Should that not be the case, then I'd say sand started to fill in the empty gaps from one of the many underground rivers that supply these reservoirs.

It's also a possibility that the very same underground rivers that I just mentioned are continuing to supply water to the aforementioned reservoirs, making a vacuum in them essentially moot.

Just a couple of ideas that could explain this.

TheBorg

reply to post by TrueAmerican
I have to agree with everything you have said here. I read the entire article but when I got to the end and stared reading the scripture, well, "stuff", I stopped reading. I understand that plenty of people would not have read this if they new it was another "fire and brimstone" speech, me included.
My own feeling is, put the prophesy angle up front and let people decide for themselves if they want to read it.

If this were to happen it would be catastrophic to the entire world. The oxygen supply would be burnt up and changed to hydrocarbons. The explosive force would possibly throw the earth out of orbit and may even stop or increase rotation. This may also preclude a shift in the magnetic field of the earth. I believe that if this were to happen it would be the end to life as we know it. It would not just be limited to the conus. However I just don't see it happening. Oxygen must be supplied for combustion and it must come from somewhere. Limit the oxygen and you limit the fire.

my two cents for what it is worth

respectfully

reluctantpawn

reply to post by TEMELUCHUS


Oh, but this is a prophecy thread, so I guess I'm surprised that you were surprised that my post has to do with prophecy.

Ana

reply to post by reluctantpawn


Thanks for your scientific take on this event. I can only go by scripture myself. And in scripture it says a third of the land, and a third of the trees, etc. will be burnt. Life goes on for the remaining parts of the world though, outside of North America, and it's with Christ ruling as the King of kings. And there is something in the Bible about the Earth being knocked off its axis, and the sun being darkened for days. Hard to believe for most, but then we have wandered far from scriptural truth. The megachurches are too busy talking about money to teach anything real.

Ana

well, I'm pretty certain that if this were true, it would happen a lot sooner over in the middle east than it would here. And if that does happen, we'll have plenty of time to correct the problem. So sorry, but this is hardly more frightening than a nuclear bomb.

Also, it's difficult to take someone seriously whose webpage is constructed like a third grade coloring book.

General ATS discussion etiquette

Less of the petty insults please, Keep on the toic at hand.
Thank you,

While I think that this is an important topic and I appreciate the OP raising awareness. I don't agree with the Biblical prophetic doom and gloom the OP and referenced Website has insinuated or the comparison with NUKES & Yellowstone.

Even the Website has misleading photos of the town where the before and after photo's are clearly not even close to the same scale & one appears to be in the day & the other at night for exaggeration of the fire.

For example - One side by side photo shows several blocks of the town in one old photo then try's to make a comparison of a photo with a fire that is smaller than one lot as if to say that one lot on fire covers the same area of the other photo that shows multiple blocks of houses.

When they put up obviously bad comparison photo's like that it just wrecks the credibility of that website and I think they'd have better luck showing the truth instead of their attempt to exaggerate photos in order to get a bigger response - like two photos taking from the same location with the same actual scale instead of showing us one with a hundred lots and then showing us a bonfire in they backyard of one and saying see - they're all gone! The normal person just says well how do we know their gone when your photo only shows one lot.

I would consider Chernobyl a far worse catastrophe, but just like Chernobyl there should be hell to pay by those responsible for this localized disaster.

Mining Corporations are just another group in the US and around our world that get away will reaping the profits while destroying Mother Earth and then not being responsible for making things right after they move on to their next conquest.

It is disgusting that those who became wealthy off this mining project or those they past their wealth on to have not been made to put out this fire. We have the technology to slow or reroute lave flows, surly we can find a way to extinguish this fire if we put enough effort in to it.

This is a good example of how many corporations are raping America & Mother Earth, but are allowed to get out of the responsibility for their wrongs by filtering their wealth to untouchable locations and leaving the rest of us holding the bag.

Biblical prophecy not - A big mess created by greedy evil folks - yes.

Oh yeah, and if the world does burn eventually as you have quoted, believe me it will not be because of that little big fire. Bombs, terrorists, solar flare or some experiment gone bad maybe, but not that Centralia's little fire.




[edit on 9-2-2008 by verylowfrequency]

reply to post y verylowfrequency


I've done some searching online and there are many other websites that show the Centralia problem as equally serious or worse. I also ran across a video of some guy's visit to Centralia put up by him on YouTube. It was like the pictures show. I agree that this particular situation has, so far been less catastrophic than a nuke would be, but the things spoken of on the Abyss page of the website would be far worse than a nuclear bomb. Centralia shows that the underground is flammable, as their statement near the end of
the page says that it proves that the ground itself will burn. What I gathered is that they're saying the whole abyss scenario is scientifically possible, and is biblical. You could say it has the potential of being an explosion of biblical proportions.

Anabelle

Sorry, I just can't buy in to the "Bible Belt" attempt at hysteria. Nice try though. Now the water table problem is a different thing all together.

Originally posted by Ikema
Sorry, I just can't buy in to the "Bible Belt" attempt at hysteria. Nice try though. Now the water table problem is a different thing all together.

Hey no one is forcing you to believe this. But for your own safety perhaps you should be aware of what could happen.

If Yellow Stone ever decides to blow that could certainly cause this natural gas pocket to ignite.

Look around at the news- if you were God would you spare the people who lives the way they want to and do what they want?

We had much crop loss for 2007. And you think this is bogus?

reply to post by AnabelleA


The issue I have here is that prophecy is only seen to be correct historically. To say that this is the prophetic end to the U.S. is preposturous. I am a God fearing christian and I cannot see the correlation here. This passage is taken out of context. It does not follow the scriptural line of Johns Revelation. To me it is just more fearmongering from extremists. I can take most any verse in the Bible and twist it to say what I choose. That is not God's work. There are many out there that would have us believe that judgement is upon us. I too feel that is is close, but then so did Paul only a few short years after Christ's resurrection. Certainly God's prophecy will come to pass in His own time. Who are we to claim that we are able to discern it ahead of time? Christ will return like a thief in the night. No one will see it before it happens we will only know the season. A third of the land is much larger than the U.S. in any regards. Please check you maps. Nowhere is the U.S. mentioned figuratively or literally in the Bible to my knowledge, or to the agrred upon knowledge of the general christian community.

respectfully

reluctantpawn

Originally posted by AnabelleA


I've done some searching online and there are many other websites that show the Centralia problem as equally serious or worse.

Anabelle

You started this thread and then say I researched & found better info to back up your Topic, but you derail your own thread by not citing the sources you base your backup argument on.

Again after I exposed the lack of credibility of your first link you say you have others that are even better. Okay I'm willing to look even though at this point I don't believe it. Otherwise you theory & arguments are empty and we can put this in the BS bucket once and for all.




[edit on 10-2-2008 by verylowfrequency]

reply to post by AnabelleA


Anabelle, the other threads you mentioned that's more concrete could you please post them?


I have to say I'm disappointed in some- so quick to dismiss. tsk tsk. The coal fire did happen but some very poor attempts were made to put it out. Jeez give me a break. Poor attempts=poor results. Why would anyone burn trash so close to a old coal mine.

Its been burning since 1962 and looks like it could burn for the next oh...250 years... It slowly destroyed the town now based on Wiki only 9 are there.

But this underground reserve pocket of natural gas under the US - I hope that's not true. But then again how would some of you even know whats under your feet?
Makes you think huh? Maybe next time you won't be so quick on discrediting someone.

edit-

I did a search and came across this-

www.osti.gov...

You want official well you got it. This Hugoton Panhandle Field is 8500 square miles.

If this blows up it will destroy the US. We're sitting on a time bomb- and you want to be skeptic?

www.surfingtheapocalypse.net...

Regarding the Hugoton-Panhandle deposit: In addition to oil, the upper Paleozoic sediments and basement rocks contain 2000 Billion m^3 acres of fuel gases... (And this doesn't include the other hugh gas reserves that are interconnected with the Hugoton Panhandle Reserve, which run all the way from the Gulf Coast of Louisiana, to Northern Montana; And, from New Mexico, all the way to Eastern Arkansas.

beyond-the-illusion.com...

[edit on 2/11/2008 by Leyla]

In response to verylowfrequency about Centralia:

You said,

"- like two photos taking from the same location with the same actual scale instead of showing us one with a hundred lots and then showing us a bonfire in they backyard of one and saying see - they're all gone! The normal person just says well how do we know their gone when your photo only shows one lot."

I found an aerial view online. Here's the link showing what were obviously neighborhood streets with homes or businesses. As you can see - they're all gone.

link


[edit: fixed link]

[edit on 11-2-2008 by 12m8keall2c]

reply to post by Leyla


Thank you Leyla for providing the link showing how large the Hugoton reserve is. Information about the reserve is a little more difficult to find than the facts about Centralia. Information showing how these reservoirs of gas (such as the giant one in the panhandle area) are all interconnected are even more difficult to find. Even that one huge reserve is connected to others throughout our continent, making it one huge reserve.

The one bit of very credible information that they provided at the original link that I posted was a link showing how this huge panhandle reserve goes all the way up to Wyoming. Although the site is saying it actually goes to points beyond there, they did prove to me that the Hugoton can be tapped in points as far north as Wyoming. Hers's the link, and the part to look at is about half way down and is in red.


www.americas-demise.org...



Anabelle



[edit on 11-2-2008 by AnabelleA]

[edit on 11-2-2008 by AnabelleA]

reply to post by TrueAmerican


There is no reliable truth in prophecy outside of the bible. It is a small thing to lose those who do not believe in it. It is a big thing to gain those who do. I say to you that all events of the future will conform to that which has already been spoken and written in the Holy Bible. And I think March 21,2008 is a significant day. cantyousee

If you don't think the energy .companies have made an explosive situation underground, then what happened at the oil refinery in Texas yesterday? That pales in comparison with what they've done to the gas reserve.

AnaA

[edit on 19-2-2008 by AnabelleA]

[edit on 19-2-2008 by AnabelleA]

pressure ,pressure, pressure, events would be localized .50 foot depth would be to our benefit ,ie:lack of pressure. subsequent colapse of topography would extinguish most comunication between fissures .pockets would evacuate lighter gasses rendering them unignightable yes the danger is there but not all en compassing as fortold besides i htink i got a date that night

Originally posted by jimbo999

Originally posted by BANDS
Well Jimbo,

Why not tell the forum at least "something" about the article that, in your opinion, is not accurate and/or true, instead of expecting people to just take your blanket word that there is nothing concrete about it ??

We will respond, I promise.

From your website:
'IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE U.S GOVERNMENT HAS HAD ITS MILITARY, ITS BEST EXPERTS, SCIENTISTS FROM AMERICA'S BEST UNIVERSITIES, AS WELL AS EXPERTS FROM THE CHEVRON OIL COMPANY, EXAMINE WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO READ, AND NOT ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN ABLE TO DISPROVE ANY PART OF IT !!

THEY KNOW IT'S TRUE, BUT THERE'S NO SOLUTION, SO THEY DON'T DARE TELL YOU !!'

Right. The US Government, Military, America's' 'best scientists' don't dare tell you!!'

But apparently, they told you

Plus any website with 'Prophesy', 'End of the World', 'The Beast', etc etc festooned all over the page is highly suspect from the very first viewing.

There has been an endless barrage of crazy right-wing christian threads on this board over the last few months - all of them completely devoid of any credibilty whatsoever. Why would you expect us to believe yours is any different?

J.


Vince Diehl

We have an athiest figures that is all you come across these days. Wish Cristians still exsisted out in the web world.