Petition for new Consciousness Forum

I wasn't quite sure where to post this, but I figured most of the people posting in such a forum would have their roots in here and possibly the Aliens & UFO area.

I am testing the waters to see if there is any support for a new mysterious subjects forum probably entitled 'Consciousnes.'

This would be mostly an experiential forum from meditation, maybe scientific discoveries relating to the brain/consciousness (you cannot have one without the other although consciousness does not stem from the brain in my opinion), alternative healing (reiki, prayer, etc), out of body experiences, and general contact with beings not relating to UFO sightings.

Would anyone support the creation of such a forum?

I am not sure how much power an average ATS member has in creating a new forum, but if there was enough people voicing support it may help.

What does everyone think?

SkyFloating posted a similar idea in the 'what could we improve' in the business forum, but nothing ever happened on that one.

Thanks for reading,

G

This idea is right up my ally! I think what you propose stems from taking 'full'responsibility for ones own path and subsequent experience.

I love it and will be happy to become a regular of this forum.

This is a good idea and I support it also - although all that would likely happen is that half the topics from Paranormal studies would move over to "Consciousness"

Hey - call it "Quantum Consciousness"!

I find it to be a great idea, and if you're not really sure what the proposed idea is, the forum might not be for you, at this moment.

There is a real aspect to the developing consciousness that is not getting the attention that is required for maximum potential. If together we can build up an actual infrastructure of palpable understandings through our shared experiences and natural gifts, why not.

"If I have seen further [than certain other men] it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants."
Isaac Newton (1642–1727), Speaking of his dependency on Galileo’s and Kepler’s previous work in physics and astronomy.

The future is coming with a new design with or without our readiness. I think it is paramount for somebody to take a step for those that are afraid to believe.

“You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself." -Galileo

This forum, I believe, can motivate the spirit to create understandings on a larger scale. What is a word that means a canvass for the sprit, because we should call the forum that?

Great idea Biggie!

AAC

[edit on 16-1-2008 by AnAbsoluteCreation]

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This has been sorely needed for years. The paranormal forum at present constitutes two vastly different subject matters. Consciousness and Ghosts. To ignore one in favor of the other is a big mistake. ATS really needs to invest in this strong interest.

I'd hate to see this be relegated to BelowTopSecret if it came to pass. Keep it in the mysterious subjects category next to the paranormal forum, please.

SteveR

Originally posted by SteveR
I'd hate to see this be relegated to BelowTopSecret if it came to pass. Keep it in the mysterious subjects category next to the paranormal forum, please.

I second that

What do you think of the name Quantum Consciousness?

Cool, or a little too futuristic maybe?

Originally posted by MrdDstrbr
What do you think of the name Quantum Consciousness?

Cool, or a little too futuristic maybe?

Sounds good to me. A little less sterile than Consciousness Studies.

great idea!!!! i totally support this!!!

For what it is worth, I also support it. Good idea, and thank you for starting the thread.

I agree.

Would this entail such things as sleep paralysis, obe's etc? Basically unexplained stuff related to the mind?

If that is the case i support it because i think it is as important as other topics in these forums, but they kind of clutter with the paranormal topics a bit.

Great idea OP , as I have recently (about 2 months) started researching consciousness and meditaion for myself (PSi practie pushed me into that area) , so I am all the way behind this idea .

I proposed a Consciousness/Metaphysics Forum 3 times in the "ATS What would you like to see in the Future" Forum and 1 time under the Complaint/Suggestion Forum.

The reason was that Threads were being moved from Paranormal to the "Faith" Forum...but our topic has little to do with Faith. My current topic "How the law of attraction works" is in the Paranormal Forum, but it doesnt really fit there. It would fit into the new Forum.

To this date I havent seen a single response to my request...by any of the staff. Not one.

I have been speculating as to the reasons why ATS Administration (who must be aware of the request by now) has not responded.

And the reason might be that the subject matter attracts a hoard of cultists, snake-oil-salesmen, marketeers, self-proclaimed gurus and whackos.

But that doesnt mean we shouldnt give it a try. I am all for your petition.

Originally posted by biggie smalls
This would be mostly an experiential forum from meditation, maybe scientific discoveries relating to the brain/consciousness (you cannot have one without the other although consciousness does not stem from the brain in my opinion), alternative healing (reiki, prayer, etc), out of body experiences, and general contact with beings not relating to UFO sightings.

Would anyone support the creation of such a forum?

I view all that as paranormal activity. Activity we don't understand fully yet so it's not normal, but paranormal.

If you're going to cut those sort of topics out of the 'paranormal thread', then surely the thread would have to be renamed 'Ghosts?'

Personally, I think the Paranormal category covers it just fine. This place is already crazy with fora. Who needs another one to keep track of?

Arawn,

I never said we fully understood consciousness, which is exactly why it needs to be studied.

It is normal though, as all of life is conscious to some extent.

"Paranormal" means out of the ordinary, and consciousness is an everyday event.

Right now you are using your consciousness to read what I am typing, I am in using it to type...

The topics generally covered here include ghosts, demons, and other out of the ordinary subjects.

I do not feel that consciousness gets the attention it deserves, and as SkyFloating mentioned, all discussion about it gets sent to BTS.

This topic needs serious discussion, and I do not feel the paranormal forum does it justice.

You can scan through the first page of this forum to find out what I'm talking about...

I do not look down upon anyone, but the threads authored here sometimes do not belong here at all (Although I'm not sure where they should go).

I'm all for it, as are many others. Why stand in the way?

Originally posted by biggie smalls
Arawn,

I never said we fully understood consciousness, which is exactly why it needs to be studied.

I know you didn't. I said it wasn't undestood, same as all paranormal things. Hence why it has always been discussed about here in the paranmormal section.

"Paranormal" means out of the ordinary, and consciousness is an everyday event.

Two topics you mentioned in your original post were: alternative healing (reiki, prayer, etc), out of body experiences. These are very much out of the ordinary and not every day events. If they were everyday events, everybody would be witness to this or experience it daily. That isn't the case is it, so it remains paranormal.

Right now you are using your consciousness to read what I am typing, I am in using it to type...

Yes, but I'm not having an out of body experience am I? I'm simply reading a post on the internet. Don't get carried away mate.

The topics generally covered here include ghosts, demons, and other out of the ordinary subjects.

Yes! Like out of body experiences, psychic healing and meditation.

I do not feel that consciousness gets the attention it deserves, and as SkyFloating mentioned, all discussion about it gets sent to BTS.

That's blatantly wrong. Rivergoddess' thread covering Oobe's has 1618 replies and is stickied in the Paranormal section. It's one of the most popular threads in here. That hasn't been moved to the BTS section.

This topic needs serious discussion, and I do not feel the paranormal forum does it justice.

You can scan through the first page of this forum to find out what I'm talking about...

That's a fair point and everybody is entitled to his or her opinion.

I'm all for it, as are many others. Why stand in the way?

I'm not standing in the way. You don't seem to understand. You made a post suggesting another thread/section be created and for people to voice their opinions. You said: "What does everyone think?" I did just that. I replied with my opinion. The fact that I disagree with you WHEN YOU ASKED A QUESTION, seems to have gotten to you. Sorry about that

At the end of the day I don't care if 1 new section gets created or 100! It doesn't bother me one bit. All I did was say what I thought about your idea. I feel it gets enough coverage in the paranormal section. BUT THAT'S MY OPINION ONLY!

Hope you get your way as you seem 'all for it.'

Have a good day.

Hello Arawan.

While these subjects are, without doubt, related, the take up different sections in the bookshop for certain important reasons.

Consciousness/Metaphysics is not involved with Ghosts, Demons, Tarot-Cards, Vampires, and other stuff of Horror-Films (no offense to these topics though...they are just as valid)...

instead, if you look at the booksection of Barnes & Noble (for example) these topics are in...

Consciousness
Metaphysics
Positive Thinking
Self-Help
Wellness

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Hello Arawan.

Vampires, and other stuff of Horror-Films (no offense to these topics though...they are just as valid)...

They have their own section in the 'Cryptozoology and Mythical Beasts' section mostly.

I'm not against the petition and quite frankly wonder why I bothered posting my views now I'm not a moderator. Just a member with an opinion.

Good luck

Good idea. A massive chunk of what is discussed in this forum really should be titled "consciousness." But there may possibly be some overlap.

Yes! I am all for a new “Consciousness” Forum, which might cover the following: Universal Consciousness, Quantum Consciousness, Theory of the Mind, Precognition, Dream Studies, ESP, Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Science, Memory, Synesthesia, Free Will -- to name a few.

I would not call it “Quantum Consciousness”. Too narrow! I would simply call it "Consciousness".

I am happy to see so many others interested in this topic! I have studied cognitive science. The great posts on this subject, found here, are perhaps the biggest reasons I keep returning to ATS.

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BTW -- what would become of the Consciousness Research read-only forum? Would that continue to be maintained? I refer to that forum occasionally because it is a really good collection of articles! I would not want that to go away or be supplanted....