Could the Secret Government be Discrediting UFOlogy by inducing insanity amongst the Key Players on

I don't know about Dr Greer being cr5azy, but look at those arms man, he could be Special Forces any day...
Disclose this

Unfortuantely, i just think Greer is out to make a bit more cash. What started out as a reasonably credable attempt at disclosure is fast turning in to a laugh-fest. Who knows what Greer's initial motives were. Maybe he started out with good intentions, and certainly alot of people that he has supported and backed through his disclosure project have seemed like genuine people, but i think over the years his greed has superseded his quest for an honest untainted disclosure. Frustrating

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The haircut was a bit of a joke not to be taken seriously relax....

I think the UFO community does enough to discredit itself without an evil conspiracy making them bonkers. Take this topic, for instance...

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mk ultra, maybe they have something else for those that get too problematic.

Cancer is probably their top choice, they make you sick while they make money. They choose the disease, some of the newest being the superbug, Morgellons, MRSA, oh, and let’s not forget the hybrid flu.

So if the people who become public figures in these matters (and aim to disclose information), start coming across as 'nut jobs' ... not only will they be discredited ... but the 'lesser knowns' with information/credible confirmation, will think twice before making it known to the public

I agree, the everyday person does not have a platform and can be easily dismissed and labeled as disgruntled, with anger management problems, an outcast, or a loner and the list goes on.

wonder how the heck they managed to cover up all what happened with so many apparent witnesses, photos and sightings?

If MKULTRA works on one it can work on masses. Therefore, if they can’t get you they get the ones around you to target you. It may appear that they have covered all bases but, they left out the God factor.

You can be controlled by the brain but the heart cannot be.

Not true. They can plant wires near there or on the hand, under the fingernail or on the forehead also which will alter your feeling, mood, emotions. They have induced heart attacks, kidney failure and they can attack other organs through the skin. I think it is some sort of neuro transmitter. The skin is attached to nerves and the brain is the nerve center. There main focus is to alter perception (forehead).




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Originally posted by Chai-Tea
Unfortuantely, i just think Greer is out to make a bit more cash. What started out as a reasonably credable attempt at disclosure is fast turning in to a laugh-fest. Who knows what Greer's initial motives were. Maybe he started out with good intentions, and certainly alot of people that he has supported and backed through his disclosure project have seemed like genuine people, but i think over the years his greed has superseded his quest for an honest untainted disclosure. Frustrating

Oh well, why give up a career as an emergency doctor earning millions of dollars in the same time he has devoted his life to the Disclosure Project, 9.99$/video ? Come on!

An emergency and trauma physician,[4] Greer is a former chairman of the Department of Emergency Medicine at Caldwell Memorial Hospital in Lenoir, North Carolina, and a lifetime member of the Alpha Omega Alpha Honor Medical Society.[5]

en.wikipedia.org...



[edit on 17-1-2008 by tangent45]

Originally posted by tangent45

Originally posted by Chai-Tea
Unfortuantely, i just think Greer is out to make a bit more cash. What started out as a reasonably credable attempt at disclosure is fast turning in to a laugh-fest. Who knows what Greer's initial motives were. Maybe he started out with good intentions, and certainly alot of people that he has supported and backed through his disclosure project have seemed like genuine people, but i think over the years his greed has superseded his quest for an honest untainted disclosure. Frustrating

Oh well, why give up a career as an emergency doctor earning millions of dollars in the same time he has devoted his life to the Disclosure Project, 9.99$/video ? Come on!

An emergency and trauma physician,[4] Greer is a former chairman of the Department of Emergency Medicine at Caldwell Memorial Hospital in Lenoir, North Carolina, and a lifetime member of the Alpha Omega Alpha Honor Medical Society.[5]

en.wikipedia.org...



[edit on 17-1-2008 by tangent45]

Just saying what it looks like to me. He gave up his past career, and maybe initially had something very authentic going with his disclosure. I think initially Greer definately had his mind in the right place, but over the years he has come to embrace his new career, and good intentions or not, i still think he is saying outlandish things becuase he has a captive audience. An audience that will go forth and purchase new publications/ attend his public discussions.

I can not say this is definately how it is. Maybe someone has poisoned his mind with drugs, maybe someone he trusts is influencing his mind set and leading him off to cuckoo land, or maybe what he say's is the truth. Unfortunately none of those scenarios seem likely to me, so i would lean towards him broadcasting new "out there ideas" because he knows his audience well. Just because someone trains as a doctor, does not mean they are without flaws. I dont think Greer is all BS, but i do feel he is totally sensationalising a disclosure that was once quite solid.

But hey i could be wrong. This is just how i feel as Greer's career has evolved.

[edit on 17-1-2008 by Chai-Tea]

[edit on 17-1-2008 by Chai-Tea]

Originally posted by Sandals24

Could the Secret Government be Discrediting UFOlogy by inducing insanity amongst the Key Players...

It seems they are not doing a very good job...

A fair amount of people still believe these- how would I say this politely? Not so sane people? I would say people will still believe these kooks if the gubermint used MKUltra or not. No matter how far-fetched their claims are, there will be people willing to believe, pay money to attend conferences, buy their books, buy their dvds so on and so forth.

Look at John Lear. His claims are simply outlandish. Really. Yet a lot of people still believe him.

Billy Meier. Do you believe this guy? I mean
this guy is simply a lying kook from start to finish trying to cash in for his FIGU business but still some people believe in him like he's the next messiah or something. Well he definitely looks like one.

Jim Sparks: Extremely far-fetched claims with no evidence to back up whatsoever not even one blurry photo years after years after years being taken (and was given plenty of indications each time before being abducted- how about setting up a camera or something? ) Oh did I mentioned he repeatedly contradicts himself? He claimed the aliens use thought activated technology? So why would they use Bigfoot "To lift heavy things" like he said in his interview? And don't get me started with the Alien version of Al Gore in his claims.

Robert Dean: He seems to quite a credible guy (but still no smoking gun evidence, again) but some of his latest claims are too far fetched - being taken up on "by the guys up there, whoever the hell they are" on board their spaceships consciously. No pictures and no evidence to back him up which he knew would be the only thing for people to believe him. Which puts him with the rest of the loons.

Charles Hall : This guy makes me laugh. Apart from his annoying stuttering speech patterns and zero evidence even after YEARS of interacting with aliens face to face, he claims to have the ability to see a bus sized spacecraft 45 miles out in the desert and predicting how fast objects move by simply looking at them. Oh he also claims that these aliens frequents the casinos of Las Vegas.

I could go on and on with other key players. But the main thing is, it's not because of MKUltra or whatever kind of mind control you want to make up.
It's because they are all simply making outlandish claims with NOTHING to back them up. No pictures, no videos, no physical evidence other than anecdotal evidence or simply claims that they 'had' evidence.

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Yes, lots of people who claim to have had Contact, but no physical evidence.

What I think you are not getting is, this is likely because the visiting ETs have a POLICY not to leave people with any physical evidence!

Think about it, when you're beaming someone up onto a spaceship - do you beam them up with video camera in hand, all ready to start capturing photos and footage? Probably not!

Similarly, on the rare occasions when ETs appear to people here on Earth, they likely choose opportune moments when a person doesn't have a camera handy.

Just because the Contactees can't produce Proof of their experiences, doesn't mean their experiences aren't real....