How "the law of attraction" works

reply to post by jsgoofn


Visualizing/Feeling health while you are unhealthy is very difficult because it relates directly to the body. So if you are unable to visualize/feel complete and total health, an alternative path would be to practice

a) Relaxation of the Body
b) Surrendering the Desire for Health to "The Field" (The Divine)

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[edit on 25-8-2009 by 12m8keall2c]

Academia, Economics and LOA

Academia and Economics are well aware of the "Law of Attraction" but since they are unwilling to talk in terms of "energies", "vibrations", "frequencies", attractor-fields and morphogenetic fields, they have to use all kinds of odd terminology in order to sound legitimate. This is amusing from the perspective of people for who talking in terms of energy is normal.

Some examples of Academic Talk without having to use the phrase "law of attraction":

"The Broken Window Principle"

"The Placebo Effect"

"The Heisenberg Principle"

"Trickle-Down Economics"


In these and hundreds of other ways, they mask what is really being talked about in order not to overwhelm the billions of people who are not ready to see that the entirety of reality is based on energy-forces and attractor-fields.

It was said earlier in the thread that the mechanism which makes the law work is that focused thought becomes matter. What is the evidence for this? Examples for this?

When I see pauper people on TV, their "homes" seem to be disorganized, full of trash and broken/old material things.

Then I see the homes of rich people: mostly organized, new, everything fits.

Yea, It's a huge generalization (and a paradox) and I think that "miasma" may influence their environments...

So I just gave away 70% of my wardrobe that was never-used, old, crap, large clothes. I know that sooner or later, It will be fullfiled with good stuff.

I'm also erasing from my vocabulary the words if, can't and but.

[edit on 11-9-2009 by infobrazil]

Ok, I've searched the thread and can't find my answers.

I'd like to know why the LOA comes across as a marketing ploy? It's always for sale, there are teasers but to get the real stuff you have to buy it (unless you know where to look). It seems like selling this information is the main thing I'm coming across. Lots of clever people making dollars from a 'Secret'.

It looks to me like it's a bit of a con. I know most of the thread is on the contrary to this.

I also find that most of the focus is on materialistic gain, which in my eyes distracts from the true realities of life and understanding of existence.

So... why do people charge money for this advice all over the place?? Or am I missing something?

EDIT I've just seen a few similar questions and it seems they are glossed over (avoided). Sorry for clogging up the thread with somethign that won't be addressed.

[edit on 15-9-2009 by and14263]

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That's because there is money to be made in the industry. That's why it attracts "Guru's", coaches and authors of different quality. Some are of terrible quality, some are great. You just have to find the great ones in between the noise... A hint.. Check out the New Thought books of the late 19th century/ early 20th century. Some of the best material on this subject comes from that time.

And why focus on materialistic gain??? It's because we all want to be rich, we all want to be wealthy. Granted, materialistic gain without substance, without having others to share it with, and without benefiting others is bland, dull, unsatisfying. And the reason why people frown on using reality creation/attraction techniques on materialistic gain is because growing up they were though that it's somehow noble and good to be poor, average or to struggle. There is nothing noble in that if you don't have the freedom to do what you desire whenever you like. There is no satisfaction in being poor or middle class. Everyone (unless blocked by their subconscious) desires to strive for the best in their lives.

And why shouldn't people charge money for the advice? They worked on it, right? They may have put hundreds of hours in putting the material together, authoring the book, creating the course etc... They deserve to get paid for their work. Doesn't a musician deserve to get paid for a gig? Doesn't a doctor deserve to get some sort of payment for treatment given? Doesn't a pilot deserve to get paid for flying you from Aruba to Amsterdam? They're giving a service, and they just deserve to get paid for it (keeping the quality of the material versus the price in mind of course).

reply to post by Skyfloating


Basically in order to get something you must worship it, is that what you are trying to say? Make belief is the word I'm looking for.

This could be true no doubt, but hard to prove through science, since science can't nearly reach those horizons.

reply to post by TheBandit795

Thanks for your advice. I'll have a look for the books. I see what you're saying about the financial side of things, after all we are all humans trying to survive.

On another note, something really really messed up happened to me this morning, something pretty huge. If it turns out it is related I'll come back and post what happened. If it pans out the way it looks like then I will have to say that other forces could be at work.

This is an absolutely fascinating thread, which I discovered a couple of weeks ago, whilst looking for something else, but as I had never seen ATS before, I have been somewhat distracted by some of the other brilliant threads here and as such have only got to page 36 of this thread! But I believe that I was meant to find this as it is addressing many of the questions that I have about the subject.

One particular thing that really interested me was a post about watches and clocks, something I have always had an issue with, in fact even my laptop clock is wrong by a few mins (I gave up trying to reset it to the correct time after the fifth attempt!) and I gave up wearing watches several years ago as they would always go slow/fast break or get lost, so I would be interested to find out why this should occur, I am always a very punctual person (even without a watch) and have never met anyone who has this same problem.

But this an amazing thread and I really should get back to page 36 and continue reading!

Originally posted by and14263
Ok, I've searched the thread and can't find my answers.

I'd like to know why the LOA comes across as a marketing ploy? It's always for sale, there are teasers but to get the real stuff you have to buy it (unless you know where to look). It seems like selling this information is the main thing I'm coming across. Lots of clever people making dollars from a 'Secret'.

It looks to me like it's a bit of a con. I know most of the thread is on the contrary to this.

I also find that most of the focus is on materialistic gain, which in my eyes distracts from the true realities of life and understanding of existence.

So... why do people charge money for this advice all over the place?? Or am I missing something?

EDIT I've just seen a few similar questions and it seems they are glossed over (avoided). Sorry for clogging up the thread with somethign that won't be addressed.

Nah...I wouldnt avoid that question. Frankly, I think you are correct.

The idea of like energy attracting like energy and the idea of focussing attention on your goals does not require expensive courses and "initiation into secret and ancient mysteries" and all such nonsense.

Also, succcess is more likely when it is not based on greed/gain (=lack).

Its precisely these problems that motivated this reminder (this thread) of what "the law of attraction" is actually about. The information here is enough to go ahead and do it without spending a cent.

Originally posted by infobrazil
When I see pauper people on TV, their "homes" seem to be disorganized, full of trash and broken/old material things.

Then I see the homes of rich people: mostly organized, new, everything fits.

Its not popular to talk about energy-correspondence as it relates to "victim-mentalities" prevalent in society, so I figured I´d leave it up to people to figure that one out....

Originally posted by oozyism

Basically in order to get something you must worship it, is that what you are trying to say?

Well...appreciate/value would be a better word...

Originally posted by and14263
So... why do people charge money for this advice all over the place?? Or am I missing something?

Maybe...

Because "LOA" is part of something bigger that we can call "self-help industry".
And is a very profitable and satured niche.
And nothing wrong in making money with it, when you add value to people's lives...

Maybe...

Because people want to follow leaders even if those leaders are misleaders.

Maybe...

Because them, people can blame others if they don't suceed.

Maybe...

Because people like to buy, read more of the same more so they can procrastinate.

Maybe...

Because money is so abundant that some people will buy anything just because someone is selling.

[edit on 21-9-2009 by infobrazil]

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And maybe... people wouldn't be "buying" this, literally and figuratively, if they didn't have some personal experience or insight confirming that the so called "Law of Attraction" or however you call it, has some firm basis in teh reality of everyday life. After all there are myriads of books on other very controversial but interesting subjects like "reptilians", but people do not buy them in droves. This "LOA" has been around since biblical times, if not earlier. It may have limitations - I don't know what they are, I think many people are trying to find that out - but it does work. It is a "law" of human reality. My own experience confirms it. We - speaking for the majority - just don't know yet what its limits are.
Or maybe what *our* limits are.




[edit on 21-9-2009 by Ethereal Gargoyle]

Here are some recent examples that illustrate the LoA . It can happen on much subtler levels than these, but for those who doubt the principle of the mechanism, this should make it obvious.


1) An acquaintance of mine recently started what I think was her first job, at a Subway. She hated having to get up in the morning and go there, and grew to have a very sore and sour attitude towards her job, and became frustrated with it. So she either forgot, or decided not to come in one day. She said she had forgotten. But either way. When she "found out" that she was supposed to have gone in, she flipped out, said she would definitely be fired, and so she didn't even call in to talk to anybody, and failed to show up there for any of the rest of her schedule that week. So, when she may not have actually been fired for missing that day, she turned it into a self-fulfilling prophecy nonetheless simply by embodying the attitude and mental/emotional energies that she was. If she was more positive, she would probably be more optimistic about her job, would have called in after missing that day, and may very well have still been working there.


2) I was on a date with someone, and we were just getting to know each other, when this person starts going off about how everyone else had rejected her, that nobody really loved her, etc., with a very sour attitude, and when this person noticed that I had lost interest in this negative discussion, she said that I was no different, that I didn't really love her either, and would just go out and find somebody better. Now this is someone who I had just met. It quickly became another self-fulfilling prophecy, whereas if they had never mentioned such things, it would not have been an issue. If she didn't lose me with all the woe-is-me, she definitely lost me when she started accusing me as being the same as all these people that I don't even know.


3) I recently decided I wanted to take a road trip from Virginia to Texas and back, out of nowhere just for the hell of it, or the experience of it. There were a number of apparent problems with me wanting to do this, because my car broke down about a month ago, I only had about $300, and my friends were not particularly supportive and I seemed to get the vibe from them that they didn't think there was any plausible way I could pull this off at such a time and shared no interest in it. But I remained optimistic, kept trying to work things out any way I could, and within a couple weeks of trying to work this out, I found out that a friend and former co-worker of mine was planning a road trip to Wyoming. So I offered to split gas money with him if he would divert to Texas with me as well, and when we got there I bought a Greyhound ticket for the way back up to Virginia while he went on to Wyoming. All in all, I spent about 2 weeks on this trip, and for the first time got to tour Knoxville, Memphis, Birmingham, Shreveport, Dallas, Austin, Waco, Amarillo, Little Rock, and a many other cities and towns along the way. And it was a very fun and educational experience for me, that would have never happened if I hadn't remained optimistic and committed to my goal despite the antagonism from those around me.

reply to post by Skyfloating


I have found that starting any "affirmation" or whatever you call them with the expression "I don't know HOW, but..." really does work. It's from a book that is popular right now, but I am not sure if endorsements of books are allowed here.
Also, after reading some of the book (I've seen better written books) I found that it's best if you to rephrase it so that it suits your individual "make-up". BUT it has to express the main idea: you don't know *how* (but it works).

It makes sense because people are usually prevented from fully believeing by their own rational doubts. This way, you trick your rational mind by acknowledging *and* overriding its doubts.






[edit on 21-9-2009 by Ethereal Gargoyle]

I have a question and apologies if this has already been asked, but there is so much information in this thread and so much to take in, that I may have missed it.

Can other people's negativity affect the LOA at all? Particularly people you are very close to. I ask this because I was (unknowingly) using LOA in my life and everything was going well and was doing what felt right for me, with really good results, but my mother who is a very grounded person who does not believe in any of this and who believes that in the "world of work" where we must all have certain jobs and stick to them whether we like them or not, because that is what we have to do in order to pay bills etc regardless of our levels of happiness (I actually gave up my most hated job that caused me huge amounts of stress in 2007 as it was either that or prozac!) and whilst she wouldn't necessarily say anything to me, an idea that I had for a business, which initially started off very well and I was very excited about, suddenly came to nothing and afterwards, she said, "it obviously wasn't meant to be" even though I felt (and to an extent still do) that it was.

So could she have affected the outcome in any way with her beliefs of what is "right" for me?

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Yes it can, by the amount of influence they have on the other person. Parents have great influence on their children, especially when growing up. The children usually adopt the same beliefs about reality as the parent.

Here's an excerpt from a book I'm currently reading (I love reading these kinds of books)

Conditioning is most effective when directed at children.
Their minds are receptive and impressionable.
They believe what they are told, whether or not
the message is true.
And with children, impressions last. Children
who are conditioned—through words or actions—that
they are stupid and ineffectual grow up to be just that.
Studies prove it.

Think back to when you were a child. Did your parents
ever complain about money? Did they say people
must work hard to earn a living? Did they indicate they
thought money was hard to come by? Did their actions
convey the feeling that money is a serious matter? All
these messages are picked up by the child and serve to
condition the young person at a subconscious level. The
child does not notice what is happening at the time, but
these messages get through and leave their cruel mark
on the child’s mind and personality.

As youngsters, most of us conclude subconsciously
that money is a problem. We hear from parents, teachers
and relatives that money is difficult to make and accumulate.
An idea given to a child—even if presented
nonverbally—sinks quickly and easily to the subconscious
level. The idea then manifests throughout life.
That is why so many people in our society have serious
issues surrounding money.

Once you become conditioned, your experience in the
real world validates your belief that acquiring money is
difficult. Jobs become hard to find and keep. Bill paying
becomes a struggle. You barely make ends meet. You find
money impossible to save. Money worries eventually consume
you, and you fall deep into debt. You end up feeling
as if you have been conned by society.

The Book is "How to Solve all your money problems forever" - Victor Boc.



[edit on 23-9-2009 by TheBandit795]

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Wow! Thanks for that, everything in that excerpt could specifically apply to my mother and her beliefs about money and the things she would impress on both myself and my brother (incidentally he and I have both always been short of money throughout our lives and have always struggled and have often had to go to her for financial help) I think I should take a look at that book and attempt to re-condition myself!