When will this exactly occur? (GMT)

I dont quite get it..

Take a look at this:

A very remarkable planetary/galactic configuration occurs on December 23rd and 24th 2007. The configuration on December 23 — Mars, Earth, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Galactic Centre — is shown in the graphic simulation linked below; it becomes even more remarkable in that it will be accompanied by the Full Moon (conjunct Mars) at about 2 a.m. on December 24 when a simultaneous Venus square Neptune occurs. It is even more remarkable in that the Pluto/Sun conjunction appears exactly on the Winter Solstice, just past conjunction with the Galactic Centre.

en.wikipedia.org...

My question is: At what moment will this happen? Exactly when will this configuration occur GMT? And for how long will it last?

Cant anyone help me with this one? This is very important. When this event happens something like a major earthquake or something else might happen..

Nobody knows at what time this planetary/galactic configuration will happen and how long it will last?

[edit on 18-12-2007 by theEnd2007]

[edit on 18-12-2007 by theEnd2007]

Not a lot of helpfull people..

do not label people as unhelpful just because you didn't get a reply. Many people probably do not know so they didn't reply. You already made three posts, don't worry you still have a few days until the end

according to the NASA picture, its at 00.00.00 UTC which is 00.00.00 GMT
current time:
www.worldtimeserver.com...

how long will it last? it depends on what you mean. If you mean the exact center of
the planets, then its probably few seconds to a few minutes depending on the fastest object, but if you mean a range then just look at mars:

Avg. orbital speed:24.077 km/s

en.wikipedia.org...

and then divide the distance (in km) you're looking for by the speed:
distance/24.077

the error increases for larger distances.
related article:
www.msnbc.msn.com...

edit1:spelling

[edit on 18-12-2007 by DarkSonic]

Time from the perspective of mankind is broken down into hours, minutes and seconds, and such a thing as you are seeking can not definely be reached.

There's too many aspects to be considered.

for one even if a moment in time could be found when the alignment would be seen here on earth as that exact moment, that would mean because of the parellelaxis shift it already happened a moment in the past depending upon the distance the viewer is from the occurance.

Originally posted by Incarnated
Time from the perspective of mankind is broken down into hours, minutes and seconds, and such a thing as you are seeking can not definely be reached.

There's too many aspects to be considered.

for one even if a moment in time could be found when the alignment would be seen here on earth as that exact moment, that would mean because of the parellelaxis shift it already happened a moment in the past depending upon the distance the viewer is from the occurance.

All he did was ask when it was going to happen. You didnt have to go and bombard him with things like mans measurement of time is insufficient and blah blah blah. You think your so high and mighty and it cracks me up.

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reply to post by theEnd2007


According to American astrologers, it will "peak in the early hours of the morning" (of the 23rd), which means sometime before noon in Europe.
(If you're in Australia, adjust accordingly. ; ))

Still according to astrologers - who are the only ones who really care about this - it's a profoundly significant alignment, but the great majority seem to be associating it with spectacularly positive shifts. There's absolutely no reason to read it catastrophically.

Personally, I don't expect much, if anything, to happen.
(Even though I would very much like it.)


P.S. I started a little thread on this a few days ago ("December 11th and 23rd"), by the way.

Originally posted by Seiju
All he did was ask when it was going to happen. You didnt have to go and bombard him with things like mans measurement of time is insufficient and blah blah blah. You think your so high and mighty and it cracks me up.

You are confused.

Here's a sign of your confusion.

You say: "You Think" a falicy. You'd never know what my thoughts are. You can't.

Thus, you're confused.

The reality is, YOU think I Think I... and that's your lie.

reply to post by theEnd2007


P.S. Actually, all the forecasts I've seen speak of December 22nd and 23rd (because the alignment is supposed to peak in the early hours of the 23rd) - not 23rd and 24th.
(The latter date was probably added by some romantic to entangle it with Christmas for added symbolism... ; ))

21-24, what is that in days? 3? 4?

If what is said to happen will happen in the years to come how much will 3-4 days make a diffrence? The question therefore must be assumed to have the assumption that the bulk of people will be around for that day assuming that something will happen at the percise moment of the alignment. Perhaps something will happen at the perciese moment of the alignment, but because of the years leading up to that moment the bulk will not be there to see it.

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also it takes time for the light from the sun to travel to the planets and gets reflected from the surface and back to Earth

distance sun to mars:

Minimum Distance from Sun: 205 million km
(128 million miles)
Maximum Distance from Sun: 249 million km
(155 million miles)

www.windows.ucar.edu...=/mars/statistics.html
distance to Earth:

Minimum (10^6 km) 55.7
Maximum (10^6 km) 401.3

nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov...

speed of light:

299,792.4574 kms^-1 with err0r: +/- 0.001

math.ucr.edu...

then the minimum time to see it:
sun to mars: 128 000 000m/299,792.4574 kms^-1=426.9620 s
mars to earth: (55.7*10^6)/299,792.4574 kms^-1=185.8 s

426.9620+185.8=612.8~10 minutes

now given all of those measurements have error in them, it might be a longer (or shorter) time. Now if the world ends immediately after the planets are perfectly aligned, the effects will be 10 min before we see the planets aligned LOL

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yeah, but I'm talking the distance from the solarsystem's alignment toward the "dark riff" and zodiacal.

However one should also reason if this should be taken into account, or should we assume perspective counts more from the geo-dynamic.

It's been said that we are 30,000 years from galatic centeral point.

Does that mean that the dark riff was actually there, from the perspective of from here, 30000 years ago?

and how does one calculate in the zodiacal star distances?

We are really only left with the perspecitve of "from earth".

Ouch! I think I hurt something in my head.

There was a quake somewhere near Alaska this morning, registered 7.3 on the Richter scale. I heard it through an emergency management group I belong to, did not see anything on Yahoo when I checked my email a short time ago.

Could it be the early signs of something?

Don't you people ever pay attention to messages with a POSITIVE, non-catastrophic slant...?

reply to post by DarkSonic


DarkSonic... "planets" are only a DESCRIPTOR for happenings - or influences - the cause of which is actually unknown. Astrology uses "planets" merely as a paradigm. In other words, it's not the actual planets which cause the "influences" observed; they are just used as a frame of reference.

I am not at all a huge astrology fan, by the way, but I do like to get acquainted with a subject as thoroughly as I can before I bash it...

And the fact that so many Renaissance thinkers of the highest caliber took it seriously does give us something to think about.

ahh I misunderstood it then, I thought the OP meant that the gravitational effects of the planets (or any other effects) are magnified when they are aligned like the Jupiter Effect and some major tsunamis and earthquakes will happen as a result. I guess i gave it too much thought

thanks for clearing that up.