Japan government spokesman says UFOs do exist

reply to post by pocketAces


Thanks for the kind words.

And, yes I am a member of the JREF forums. How did you know?

The farther you go back in time, the farther away you get from man’s current understanding of this phenomenon and thus it becomes more common and even more inexplicable.

Your points are valid, and well taken. But I am wondering whether you believe there are currently events that we encounter that we will not be able to adequately explain, for example, for perhaps another 30,000 years. Or do you feel we are far closer to a complete universal understanding of phenomena that could occur around Earth?

[edit on 18-12-2007 by Ectoterrestrial]

I've been lurking the JREF forums for the past year and just joined, I've learned
so much from the people there and I'm still learning, I'm psychic thats how I knew j/k I was just pretty sure you at least visit the JREF site.

I have become a full skeptic and believe everything has a logical explanation to it Everything makes a lot more sense now thanks to people like you explaining things to those who lack critical thinking.

Originally posted by communicator
huh... UFOs so exist... but are they from outer worlds or are from earth
they should confirm that.

Apparently they don't know any more than you or I. UFO's certainly exist. There's no argument to be had there. Even the U.S. government has basically said they exist, but they don't seem to pose a threat to national security. Which is logical, because if you don't know what something is, you can't really classify it as a threat, can you?

reply to post by Ectoterrestrial


I believe that if there is any phenomena that exists that we cannot currently comprehend we are unlikely to even be able to observe it at this point. It seems that the bulk of human understanding is directly limited to how much or how little we can objectively observe.

So to answer your question, yes: I believe there are an inefable quantity of things we do not understand about the Universe, but it's likely we are not even able to observe those things just yet.

[edit on 18-12-2007 by neuralfraud]

I thought everyone knew that the Japanese are actually from another star system, and that UFOs themselves are piloted by Japanese infants. I guess it isn't common knowledge, after all.

Originally posted by Majal
I thought everyone knew that the Japanese are actually from another star system, and that UFOs themselves are piloted by Japanese infants. I guess it isn't common knowledge, after all.

I actually have read somewhere that the ancient Japanese imperial line claimed that their ancestors "came from the heavens," or something like that. But a lot of royalty has claimed that over the years as a way to give their rule a bit more phoney legitimacy. A little more pizazz.

Originally posted by Nohup

I actually have read somewhere that the ancient Japanese imperial line claimed that their ancestors "came from the heavens," or something like that. But a lot of royalty has claimed that over the years as a way to give their rule a bit more phoney legitimacy. A little more pizazz.

Royal families have always attempted to use religion to grant themselves more legitimacy. They can't willfully abuse their subjects and remain in power unless they claim to be something "more than human," or at the very least, chosen by something that is beyond "lesser people's" ability to understand.

But, back on the subject at hand, I believe that you'll see more and more world leaders expressing interest and genuine belief in UFOs as time goes on. Everyone knows that something strange is going on, and the desperate search for answers will eventually overwhelm even the most skeptical of people.

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reply to post by phaistonian


No evidence.
We need photos.
We need a triangle UFO to land in Tokyo.


The aliens could do battle with Godzilla!

reply to post by phaistonian


Sounded to me like the guy was only saying his "Personal" belief was that UFO's exist. Where did he say it was the Japanese governments belief?

He said they where interested in the subject but heck our government does its best to pretend they are interested..

Just doesnt sound like a government announcement was being made in this article..

reply to post by ATruGod

I just posted this same thing before reading this users reply.

So sorry for the double response.

Yes, I totally agree with what's been said.
There is a major difference in admitting UFO's
and admitting ET's.

But I wish our government would be forthcoming
in all haste. However I doubt they will any time soon
unless ET shows up on the white house lawn and
walks in the oval office with reporters snapping
photos and sits down and communicates with Bush.
I'd like to see him explain that one ........ LMAO
They should have done that back in the 50's when
they flew over the last time in formation. I have no
clue what they are waiting on

I think we are moments away from offical disclosure, all we need is one brave reporter to ask Hillary about the Rockefeller Initiative. The documents are all there that the Clintons were briefed in depth about the ETV presence.

"Washington, DC – Today Paradigm Research Group placed on the Internet documents from the executive Office of Science and Technology Policy obtained under the Freedom of Information Act by Canadian researcher, Grant Cameron. These documents confirm the effort by billionaire Laurance Rockefeller to persuade President Bill Clinton to begin releasing to the public government held information pertaining to the UFO phenomenon and extraterrestrial life and to provide amnesty to government employees wishing to come forward and testify regarding relevant events and evidence. These documents are located at: "

www.paradigmresearchgroup.org...

It seems that you don´t recognize the weight and the power of the declarations of this japanese figure.

This kind of statements are not a thing of every day, are not a common declaration. This figure is in risk of ridicule right now.

Can´t you people read between lines? Can´t you interpret a message? He didn´t say , ufos are aliens, here is your proof. He went as far as he could, trying to avoid being totally ridiculed. Do you think that he made a 30 years political career just to wake up some day and start saying "crazy stuff" just to be ridiculed?

You must learn to interpret a message. If a high political japanese figure says Ufo´s exist, it must mean something, more that can be readed textually.

Sorry for my english.

More on the subject from Wired:

blog.wired.com...

I cant post the simple words The Rockefeller Initiative
1993-1996 on the wired website, it says I am spam. I wonder if it is filtering anything that matters.

reply to post by Orion437


Your English is great! A very good point, and well taken.

I have definitely noticed a marked increase in media attention on this subject; it is very popular on the internet right now, and as the consciousness shift increases, I believe we will see a new paradigm.

Puppet Master: "It can also be argued that DNA is nothing more than a program designed to preserve itself. Life has become more complex in the overwhelming sea of information. And life, when organized into species, relies upon genes to be its memory system. So man is an individual only because of his intentional memory. But memory cannot be defined, but it defines mankind. The advent of computers and the subsequent accumulation of incalculable data has given rise to a new system of memory and thought, parallel to your own. Humanity has underestimated the consequences of computerization."
-Ghost in the Shell

reply to post by Orion437


Absolutely Orion but there is not always a hidden message and unfortunetly unless he comes out and says that the Japanese government believes in the existence of Alien life and are doing everything in our power to provide information to the public, then we can only interpret his announcement for what it is. His personal belief.

Even if he is sending hints via a public forum.

It also doesnt mean that we shouldnt take the announcement seriously and I hope that those who do, have tried to communicate further with this guy to understand exactly what he meant and how they can learn more.

Sad thing is....this man is probably never going to be heard of again, Probably dead already from the "secret people"

And....Our government needs to just come out and tell us. Japan is ready isn't the USA ready?

Also Japan is SOOOOOOOOO much more advanced in technology then the USA. I love Japan.

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