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Questioning my own beliefs

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posted on Dec, 14 2007 @ 04:58 AM
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i just want you to know something:
do whatever the heck you want. it's your belief system, your personal freedom, so along as it doesn't infringe on ours or irritate us by spouting off the good word at every opportunity.

a good example to follow would be our new resident pagan (formerly nonreligious agnostic) Kacen. he's got the schtick down properly with his beliefs.

believe in something
nothing
maybe both if you can find a way to
or you could find a spot in between and stay cozy there

i'll buy the next round when you've figured it out



posted on Dec, 14 2007 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
i just want you to know something:
do whatever the heck you want. it's your belief system, your personal freedom, so along as it doesn't infringe on ours or irritate us by spouting off the good word at every opportunity.



As long as it doesn't irritate? Well, sometimes madness, maybe you should do unto other as you would have them do unto you,no? The fatct that you are able to infiltrate your atheistic views on any thread, regardless of the topic,
is a bit irritating. We could be talking about how chalk ius made and you would find some kind of way to insert you atheistic anti-God rhetoric into it...

[edit on 14-12-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]



posted on Dec, 14 2007 @ 10:30 PM
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You know satanism is similar.

" Do what thou wilt "

and then they add, as long as it doesnt hurt anybody.

Yea, but thats contradicting itself. Then certain restrictions apply right?

Its so easy to worship God. The commands are very easy to uphold. Its baised on doing unto others ect..

peace.



posted on Dec, 14 2007 @ 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by JesusisTruth

You know satanism is similar.

" Do what thou wilt "

and then they add, as long as it doesnt hurt anybody.


Actually, uh, I think thats Wicca.

And the Satanism your confused with is probably LaVeyan Satanism, which isn't really...ugh...

They call themselves Satanists, use stereotypical Satanic imagery literally to spite Christians, and they merely identify with Satan, they even admit to this. They don't actually believe in Satan, in essence, it's merely a philosophy. The philosophy basically being "an eye for an eye", though it's more complicated.

They are generally all atheists, not believing in God, Jesus, or Satan, or any other deity.

en.wikipedia.org...

Personally, from my experience, most of them are annoying wannabes.

But since you pretty much believe any other religion besides Catholicism is Satan worship anyway, I sincerely doubt anything I previously said was little more than a waste.

Perfect, anything that isn't your belief is Satanism, perfect failsafe. Ugh, you make me want to puke.



posted on Dec, 14 2007 @ 10:52 PM
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I did not know that, im just stating what they believe in.

" you make me want to puke "

so be it. I dont hate you.

" you think all religions are satanism "

Thats a bad way of putting it.

I believe Jesus created the Catholic church and is God, I dont like putting it in those hateful words.

The ones in others religions are important to God and he wants them to come home.


peace.

[edit on 14-12-2007 by JesusisTruth]



posted on Dec, 16 2007 @ 03:04 PM
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i meant irritate at every opportunity. it's ok for someone to be irritating sometimes, nobody is perfect. i'm quite sure that i can be irritating sometimes myself, but i'm just saying don't be irritating at every moment.



posted on Dec, 16 2007 @ 07:46 PM
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I probably haven't been as active as you "speakeroftruth", and haven't visited as many forums and threads, however, from what I've seen of madnessinmysoul, s/he only reponds to theistic declarations made by others. I wouldn't call answering something that's already irritating in one direction, irritating. At worst you could call it a counter-irritant.

So, while you may be annoyed because M-I-M-S's comments are effective, your criticism appears unwarranted.

Occam



posted on Dec, 16 2007 @ 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by JesusisTruth
" you think all religions are satanism "


I am trying to figure out where he stated that at in his post, oh wait he didn't. He said the catholics were satanists.



posted on Dec, 16 2007 @ 11:11 PM
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no JC, he said that I believe all religions but catholicism is satanism.

Every Christians who actually believe Jesus is God would fall under this category, but we wouldnt use those words.

Its ok to have faith and actually believe it.

peace.



posted on Dec, 17 2007 @ 12:52 AM
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That is your opinion. I have "known" Madness for as long as I have been here, I think Madness knows that I actually like him... I think he's a good person despite the fact I may not agree with him on some issues or the fact he "irritates" me.. Trust me though, I have seen madness come onto threads that had absolutely nothing to do with religioon, spirituality of atheism and find a way to insert his atheism into the conversation. I don't understand his reasoning for doing it...



posted on Dec, 17 2007 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by JesusisTruth

no JC, he said that I believe all religions but catholicism is satanism.

Every Christians who actually believe Jesus is God would fall under this category, but we wouldnt use those words.

Its ok to have faith and actually believe it.

peace.


Well I do have to say that from what I have read in the bible when i was a kid that jesus is supposed to be the son of god, not god right? But I could really care less. He could have been alive in those times, but just another person.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by jca2005
I know as long as I am good to other people, help those in need, and risk my life for another's, I am fine, and will figure out the truth when I am gone from this earth, and possibly to a better place.


I admire your quest for truth.

I do feel obligated to let you know though, as a minister for Christ, that having a good heart (see quote above) is only half of what will land you in a better place. In order to obtain eternal life (that better place) you must also declare Christ Jesus as Lord and Savior. Those who don't meet both requirements will be subject to judgment at Armageddon.

Please don't assume like so many others in this world, that you will have the time to just find out later once you leave this earth. Armageddon can come at anytime, and if you are unable to recognize the signs telling us that we're currently experiencing the Tribulation, it will come sooner than you expect.

I wish you peace and pray that our heavenly Father bless you and guide you. Amen.



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 07:54 PM
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The truth is, there are things in the Universe beyond our comprehension and things we will never grasp. I do not think that,other than God, the human brain is the best thing in the Universe



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by TheOracle
The truth is, there are things in the Universe beyond our comprehension and things we will never grasp. I do not think that,other than God, the human brain is the best thing in the Universe


LOL! Agreed...



posted on Dec, 19 2007 @ 08:13 PM
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