The amazing UFO man of Orange County

This guy is a complete d-bag. When the aliens actually invade were going to think its this j*** off messing with this idiotic toys.

This thread proves beyond reasonable doubt that UFO eyewitness can't be taken seriously EVER. You can only trust concrete evidence and not the distorted deluded human psyche because humans are known for being lying money grabbing, attention seeking and hoax making. We do hope that they open their minds a little bit in the possibility of ETs NOT visiting this our pathetic little planet.

SLOOOSSSHHH!!!!

Do you hear that? That is the sound of thousands of UFO eyewitness reports being flushed down the toilet.

This man gets my props.

[edit on 15-10-2007 by omnicron]

Originally posted by Access Denied

Originally posted by yuefo
Of course people who are versed in UFOs know better because of incidents like the 2000 Illinois sighting, in which a football-stadium-sized triangle was witnessed and tracked by no fewer than 5 different police officers

Military balloon. (self propelled)

Umm, care to supply any evidence of those 300 foot long triangle balloons that hover, then suddenly speed away at 100 mph?

Originally posted by Access Denied

Originally posted by yuefo
or the 1966 Portage County incident, wherein another 5 police officers witnessed and chased a UFO for 86 miles.

Military helicopter. (not very fast)

Care to supply any evidence of a military helicopter that is completely silent and disguised as a saucer?

Glad I could help.

Thanks so much for helping.

Originally posted by neformore
I've been researching UFO's for 20+ years. Right at the start of my interest in the subject I could have told you - as I suspect most people could - that if you ask 20 different people to describe something in the sky you'll get 20 different answers.

Whoop-de-doo. Nothing new there.

Yet, you have to admit they're not just giving you 20 different answers, they're coming up with crap you can't attribute to a simple difference in description. I especially loved the "acrid type smell" part.

In your 20+ years of research, how many times did you see UFO enthusiasts actually taking the initiative to become trained observers so this sort of thing was less likely? None of the MUFON chapters we visited had ever addressed this sort of thing, and some of them were "well established". Big into talking about how they were going to 'transcend' when the Reticulans came but not long on, say, being able to identify common airplanes or weather phenomena.

Originally posted by Tom Bedlam
Yet, you have to admit they're not just giving you 20 different answers, they're coming up with crap you can't attribute to a simple difference in description. I especially loved the "acrid type smell" part.

Peoples minds play tricks on them when they see things. It may be some crazy preconcieved notion, maybe a fear response - certainly when humans become frightened their senses sharpen - as for any animal. I suggest the smell was coming from something nearby - of course the witness wouldn't associate that.

Scales are another thing. It is damned difficult to say how high something is because its a big sky and when you look up you have no fixed frame of reference to gauge height from.

Then there is parallax, where your eye can be fooled into thinking something is moving when it isn't because you are looking at a fixed point over disstance- the best example of this I can give are bright stars against a moving cloud background.

Also, objects at night that are lit travelling directly towards an observer appear to be stationary and getting brighter/bigger.

In your 20+ years of research, how many times did you see UFO enthusiasts actually taking the initiative to become trained observers so this sort of thing was less likely? None of the MUFON chapters we visited had ever addressed this sort of thing, and some of them were "well established". Big into talking about how they were going to 'transcend' when the Reticulans came but not long on, say, being able to identify common airplanes or weather phenomena.

Its hard to try and get people to learn such stuff. Quite simply they convince themselves that something unusual has occurred and if you point out alternatives alot of folk get suspicious and think you are either not taking them seriously or some spook from the government trying to debunk them. It takes time and effort to sort out the wheat from the chaff. Some people just want to believe - as I suspect you encountered in your MUFON visits and thats a problem because it breeds ignorance of genuine phenomena.

That having been said, there are diamonds in the rough. I estimate that 98% of UFO cases are explainable. Its the 2% that are the ones that interest me. They are the ones with radar traces, ground traces, genuinely bizarre happenings, and also ones with professional observers and military involvments. Those are the ones you simply cannot discount, which is why I do believe occaisionally something/one pops by for a peek at us.

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