Halo 3: The ‘Third Wave’ of Destroying the U.S.

I was reading this article about the aforementioned topic. Curious as to the 'public' opinion on the subject. A couple excerpts:

...to look at the deeper implications of this “Brave New Cyberworld.” Two things come up that are prevalent with the creation of these games. One, is the mental psychosis of the vulnerable adolescent or young adult, who are gullible to these fictions. The second is the fostering of specific types of “virtual world” games— supposedly designed for mere entertainment, such as the hedonistic Second Life, or Halo 3. Either way, the dehumanization process occurs in any instance, by the first-person shooter games’ precision to kill another object, or by the adoption of an arbitrary set of anti-scientific, anti-principled rules, like that of Second Life, or even the great Ministry of Truth—Wikipedia.

The influence of such satanic and perverted characters, as the British Round Tables’ late Lord Bertrand Russell and H.G. Wells—and their lackeys Norbert Weiner, John von Neumann, and the still existing nut-case Marvin Minsky— in crafting the kind of “information theory hoax,” which fostered the insane immoral beliefs of technological and population “equilibrium,” i.e. depopulation, mixed with the axiomatic computer-linear thinking, has created a potential self-doomed society. Historically, the destruction of human society has never been blatantly direct. The more conniving method by the oligarchy is to get the population to induce its own doom.

[edit on 12-10-2007 by anhinga]

Humans have been around for over a hundred thousand years.
So now this half-century old technology will lay waste to us?

Originally posted by watch_the_rocks
Humans have been around for over a hundred thousand years.
So now this half-century old technology will lay waste to us?

exactly my feeling videogames are the rock 'n roll of this age

The technology could be used for something useful and non-violent. Not these games that are either recruiting tools for the NWO and killing people in Iraq and Afghanistan or money-making, inane waste(s) of time. I notice all the "Halo" avatars around, which is why I posted the thing. Wanted to ruffle some feathers. People that actually stick up from this violent, drivel have got to be kidding. Go learn to play an instrument, learn to write or read something of substance. This is one of the main reasons the cultural collapse, among other collapses, are here -- a services economy. I could careless how many years humanity has been around, you're still a spectator to the SCREENS as Rome was to the Colosseum.

Should you even know what a "service economy" entails, you'll see that we're ruined beyond all hope and these games are part and parcel of that fall. American's saving rate is at a point lower then during the Great Depression.

Credit debt and actual waste -- those are our top two exports. Sickening.

[edit on 12-10-2007 by anhinga]

Yeah, I think that's taking conspiracy theory a tad to far

My theory is MS & Bungie just wanted to make a boatload of money by making some of the best games ever

You truly are lost souls, stagnant to the reality of your lives, keep it coming, this will be a simply amazing collage of U.S. stupidity by the end of the threads' (pop)ularity. Here is where this information came from, for the record. . .

Bill Gates in Your Soul

For all those individuals salivating about the new Halo 3 video game, ask yourself the question: what is the difference between man and beast?

Reviewing numerous trailers and detailed articles from Negroponte’s disgusting excrement— Wired Magazine, on the launching of the new video game Halo 3, the first thing that comes to the sane mind, is: What kind of perverse mind would develop such a thing to lure in so many youthful and vibrant minds? Could not these youthful minds spend their precious time working to push the frontiers of science by discovering fusion power or rediscovering the universal principles in Classical physical science and art? What about the space program? Are people being inspired in these areas, to conquer the difficult scientific problems mankind has never been challenged by before? Could this not be another form of distraction to deter one’s mind away from solving or even thinking about the global economic breakdown crises? Thus, what is the intention?

The mediocre details of how much money will be made by the immoral computer and Hollywood-related industries, have been documented by LPAC in several places. The more substantial subject for investigation is: How does one young adult get corrupted into becoming a psychotic-mass killer, or a mere useless drone for the likes of Anti-Nation-State Fascists, such as Felix Rohatyn, George Shultz, or even their dupe, Dick Cheney? The most obvious answer to any thinking individual— is to dehumanize the image of human beings.

There are many tedious details and complexities that go behind the production of such games as Counterstrike, World of Warcraft, Entropia Universe, EVE-Online and Halo 3. However, once that dehumanizing process has been accomplished, the ability of making useless wars (like that of Iraq, today) and mass killing of innocent people, as in the case of the Virginia Tech incident, are stepping stones for the unleashing of a New Dark Age.

In my very personal opinion, humanity is coming to a crossroads. In the next half millenium or so, we will either stumble and fall under the weight of our ego's and mistakes, or we will rise above it all and 'conquer the stars,' so to speak.

In just the last century, so many new and major events occurred. First having the capability to destroy this planet is one thing that comes to mind. And now all this about humans being mired down in anti-social behaviour such as sitting in front of glass for most of our days (and nights), and all these other things. Global warming, deforestation, etc. These are just the first of many issues we will have to face, and if we cannot overcome it all, then Homo sapiens will become extinct.



And anhinga, I happen to be an Australian citizen.

Dont laugh! But I think videogames has been conditioning our generation to face the inevitable of a final conflict with aliens.

I was at a gun range and it amazes me to see so many youths that shot really well, when I talked to them, Voila! They all play at least 10 hours a week of Halo, Tom Clancy series, Call of Duty, Half-Life, etc.

These kids are a natural at basic combat skills: target acqusition, quick aiming, situation awareness.

Maybe they are secretly trained via video games.

BTW, I tried the newset gen of shoot-em-up: Gears of War. That game is one of the hardest game, so much hassle! Gotta rescue your mates, duck, roll around, find cover, flank...too much work for me.

I play a lot of grand theft auto, and yet somehow I have avoided going on any sprees of killing and carjacking. Playing video games is harmless. somehow I manage to both play video games and also read for pleasure and study chemistry in college, so I think your predictions for the collapse of society may be premature.

I've played video games since I was 5, starting with my good old atari system.
I look at games as no different than tv or even books that describe the same content, ie. violence. You are deciding how real it is by your perception. I easily get sucked into anything I watch/play, so I am completely immersed in that environment. When a big @#$ spider jumps out of nowhere, I jump because I knew nothing but that virtual world.

Others might constantly know it's a game/movie/book they're experiencing, and don't get affected as much.

Question, if first person shooters train youth to kill, does that mean games such as Empire Earth, Rise of Nations, etc. teach people how to build a civilization from scratch and guide it through the technological ages? in a way yes, but you don't see each person starting his own civilization.

I think the bottom line is education at home. Parents need to talk to their kids about fiction and reality.

I know these games appeal to an older audience but
any parents out there reading this thread, re-consider
letting your children play these games. Read the original
post, let alone realize the violent nature of them.

Originally posted by docklands
BTW, I tried the newset gen of shoot-em-up: Gears of War. That game is one of the hardest game, so much hassle! Gotta rescue your mates, duck, roll around, find cover, flank...too much work for me.

I agree. It seems to be all about graphics and realism rather than focused on gameplay.

The last great game made in my opinion was SC3. Before that, only painkiller, guild wars, doom series, and Duke Nukem 3D captured me.

I think most games are a waste of time, but some are educational and constructive/increase reflexes.

Every time I hear about halo 3, or halo at all, I feel like vomiting and craping my pants simultaneously.

[edit on 12-10-2007 by 1337cshacker]

While energy used to make games such as halo etc COULD be used for a less violent game or example..they wouldn't be as much fun or appeal to the target audience in the same way. The politicaly correct is often not very entertaining I'm afraid, whether thats a good or bad thing is for others to decide.

I played games for years, although now I'm older I rarely get the time any more. I'm well balanced, never commited a voilent crime or have a criminal record, have wrote and released 4 albums of my own songs , play 6 instruments and am a sucesful professional artist.

So it certainly didn't in my case turn me into a mindless NWO slave ready to do battle. If anything it made me realise that while it may be entertaining to shot a zombie /alien / WW2 german in the head with a shotgun in a game, I'd never want or indeed think about doing it in real life.

Games (like films) are fantasy and meant for relaxation not a way to inspire the young to turn into monsters ready for any war any goverment wants. Kids have more brains than that and realise its a fantasy. Its time to stop blaming media like games or movies for the worlds ills and let society itself take some of the blame. More blood violence and gore is seen on the news than is alllowed in 80% of games or movies.

It could be argued that as some of my income comes from the games industry that I may be a tad biased? Thats a fair enough comment, although there are many in the games industry who actually dont like the games they make and its just a 'job' to pay the bills at the end of the day. The games industry is in too much disarray behind teh scenes to be part of a international conspiracy...damn they can't even decided on colors for the level 3 boss, or who's turn it is to buy the pizza most times never mind being part of a bigger conspiracy.

Wayne..

Originally posted by the secret web
While energy used to make games such as halo etc COULD be used for a less violent game or example..they wouldn't be as much fun or appeal to the target audience in the same way. The politicaly correct is often not very entertaining I'm afraid, whether thats a good or bad thing is for others to decide.

Society runs on the big three:
-Sex.
-Money.
-Drugs.

Your right, they would not make money for their drugs and sex if they made more politically correct games.

And your also right in its all in the mind of the player. I'm 20 now and hardly game like I used to. I easily spent 40 hours a week playing them. As recently, I have cut down to just a few mins a day. I also am not a violent person and have played for a while (doom basically, around 94-95ish). Its all in the mind. People are born crazy, or prone to violence.

I agree w/ the last poster, the modern person (in the first world, or what's left of it) are born into a violent era. I can't imagine being a soldier returning from the middle east w/ KILLING SOMEONE on my mind all the time. It'd ruin my future thru guilt let alone the fact that I/you became a cro-mag to do it, only advice to someone in that position -- get therapy and get anti-war sooner then....

As per someone's point about poli-correct video games, that'd be awesome! I grew up on Atari -- some shoot 'em up, some puzzle games. Then I was out of the stuff by Nintendo but some of those were mind-challenging (Zelda) and peaceful..... it seems too late to introduce something like that unless there were totally post-modern circumstances, like alien landing or something to change everyone's worldview.

My point (and the group mentioned) in starting this thread was the point that they're training killing machines, let alone ruining creativity. The difference between man and beast is many, we're capable of logic and going beyond the hunter-gatherer society. Almost TO sound religious, we're existing in the image of a creator to built and use mindpower to create.

Think about words more. Like this awesome site, it's a forum based around a verb, to conspire. You can't picture it without understanding a verb. Like "trust" for example as a noun. "The table is something I trust." We're not taught these 101s through basic education to do something more w/ our lives.

I imagine many statistics to prove some of these theories exist!

funny, atilla and the huns didn't need video games to inspire them to violence, nor did the persians or hitler

I'd say the concept of land ownsership and organized religion are a lot more dangerous than a video game

Who's to blame? Liberals of course! They are the ones taking PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY out of the equation. No you cant smoke, no you cant talk while dring, no you cant eat this much fat, no you must do thi do that. Yes you can sue for any reason.

As a result, people no longer take any responsibilties, they blame it all on Bush, or USA, or the war, or anyone and anything.

How about this: YOU KILL SOMEONE, YOU GO TO DEATHROW.

Who cares if your mom made you that way or if you played one too many hours of Doom?

WHat's next? You rape a girl and you blame it on too much sugar from Twinkies?

Can people like OP STOP blaming society for the few retards who cannot understand the LAW OF NOT KILLING HUMAN?

EVeryone wants free everything. Free healthcare, free jobs, free money, free tuition, but no one wants to do anything.

Example, OP.

Freaking right on Docklands, I LOL everytime I see that avatar! She is the worse, human or not, Mrs Nwo Billary is another pawn in their game of takeover. Anyone who has the stupidity to vote for her is lost beyond all hope. She voted FOR the war.

Yeah, well, killing is the norm these days, it'll take a lot to get people out of the 'okay killing' mentality. The two most popular words in existence are "okay" and "Coke" -- the fluid version of the latter is straight poison now serving world-wide. High-fructose corn syrup -- avoid it, long term brain damage, as is the contents of most foods let alone the FACT that microwave ovens remove the molecular structure of food, turning it all into a FAT wasteland. What's the overweight stats on Amerikkka? Almost half the country last I checked.

This is how modern, postmodern Rome ("written upside down") collapses. Between fast/junk food ruining minds, hedge/mutual fund fraud on a National level, a subprime blowout that won't be finished blowing out until late next year? What else? Oh right, a war that costs MILLIONS TO BILLIONS a week, I gotta check that stat -- countdown BANKRUPT America. Hope all those homeowners w/ the ever-increasing mortgage payments reading this site tkae note: *they* changed personal bankruptcy laws aboooooout two years ago. Can't "start over" anymore, get ready to move to cities and rent.

T-minus and counting until economic hell. Uh, Al (Special interest, mutual environment funds) Gorey, how much you making off others suffering? You're a real contribution to humanity, peace prize should be revoked.

Once again here we go with the "Let's blame video games for violence" agenda.

I must agree that video games are an easy target to blame the current violent youth statistics upon, but again this is just "passing the buck" for where the true problems lie.

Firstly, I ask you to please see the following link

Youth Violence: Fact Sheet :: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

If you notice, Video Games are not listed at all as a reason for youth violence. As a matter of fact, just go to the website, hit Ctrl-F (brings up find) and type game. Nope, not there.

The article cites the following:

Either way, the dehumanization process occurs in any instance, by the first-person shooter games’ precision to kill another object, or by the adoption of an arbitrary set of anti-scientific, anti-principled rules, like that of Second Life, or even the great Ministry of Truth—Wikipedia.

I find this to be quite funny simply because there have been other periods in history, where video games were not around, that have much more violent themes than now.

I don't recall Hitler's Youth playing Doom or Halo 3. I also don't think video games were the cause for Hitler to order the systematic execution of countless victims.


Were video games around during WWI?

What about during Vietnam? Korea?

The Egyptians forced slavery of the Hebrews was obviously a direct result of video games causing the violence.




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You must understand that violence is caused by humans inability to cope with their surroundings. This has been true throughout history. It in no way shape or form is caused by any kind of video game.


If you truly think about it though, video games are less violent forms of entertainment. Allow me to point out other forms of "entertainment" that we could be doing instead.

1) Hunting. Well now here is a completely non-violent past time. There is nothing quit like walking around the forest waiting hours and days at a time just to watch a deer's brains splatter all over the forest. No violence there right? *sigh*

2) Boxing. Hrmm here is another great entertainment that includes no violence. Unless of course you are the person that has to clean the blood off of the ring's floor.

3) Soccer. Another sport that has nothing to do with violence. Unless you count the number of riots and deaths caused by the sport throughout the world each year. But who is counting anyway?

I could go on and on listing past time after past time that has more violent ends than video games, but I think (I hope) you get the point.


The youth are going to do what their parents tell them to do, not what a video game suggests. If the Parents are not there to tell the kids what to do, then it is again not the video game at fault. It is the parents fault for not taking the responsibility of teaching the youth how to be a good citizen.

End of story.


-xmaddness



[edit on 12-10-2007 by xmaddness]

Hi folks,

I know this is off topic but as it mentions Halo 3 in the title I thought why not.

I just wanted to pay my respects to Spartan 117; he will be greatly missed by all.

Peace.