Origins of the moon (non web related source)

More from Wiki:

"In 1964, York was sentenced to probation after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor charge of raping a 13-year-old girl. Later that year, he was arrested again for assault, possession of a dangerous weapon and resisting an officer. York was sentenced to three years in state prison.

In 1988 York was convicted for obtaining a passport with a false birth certificate.[20]

In 2002, York was arrested and charged with over a hundred counts of sexually molesting dozens of children, some as young as four years old.

According to Bill Osinski, who wrote a book on the case: “When he was finally indicted, state prosecutors literally had to cut back the number of counts listed — from well beyond a thousand to slightly more than 200 — because they feared a jury simply wouldn’t believe the magnitude of York's evil.… [It] is believed to be the nation’s largest child molestation prosecution ever directed at a single person, in terms of number of victims and number of alleged criminal acts.”[25]

i still dont understand what it is the OP was trying to "enlighten" us about this york dude?... what was your point again?...

hey.. lo0k ..your thread didnt die after all... wo0t! nice way to pump your post count though.. oi!!

And finally from Wiki:

"As of 2007 Dwight York is serving his sentence at the United States Penitentiary Administrative Maximum Facility (ADX) in Florence, Colorado as Inmate # 17911-054. While his projected release date is 15 December 2119 [30], this is effectively a life sentence."

Just another megalomaniac.

Megalomaniac! Thats the word, yes I agree partly, cause I still dont know the facts do I? Im just me in the UK.



Remember what the bible creators did aswel ok, our governments, those who run the world with their rubbish and used to put people to death for not believing their stuff.. and still do.. that institute lives on smiling every day and its a lot sicker than York and we believe the crap it puts out every day! The elite run pedofilia rings and drugs and all the rest of it.. we cant lock them up can we?

[edit on 09/22/2007 by Sekhemet]

Originally posted by KINGOFPAIN
i still dont understand what it is the OP was trying to "enlighten" us about this york dude?... what was your point again?...

hey.. lo0k ..your thread didnt die after all... wo0t! nice way to pump your post count though.. oi!!

Like I said.. I started it with a ''''moon theory'''''... I didnt wana mention York. just the moon theory... you all the ones asking name? author? I warned ya.

By the way...I do just wana earn enough points to browse really above top secret

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By the way...I do just wana earn enough points to browse really above top secret





So you are admitting you are intentionally wasting everyone's time?

I hope you get banned.

reply to post by JHarshaw


JHS, this is NOT the most effective way to earn points. For one, it's damn slow, for another, spamming is against the rules. Better just to make thoughtful posts and get applauded (500 pts. apiece).

No,your wasting your own time not me, and anyway I was joking about that points bit sorry mate. I dont force you to click my threads so dont blame me.

I just said -- I started the thread as a MOON THEORY -- which I dont know any more than anyone else here. I told you all in my second post dont talk to me about the MAN.. just the moon theory.. ineresting? rubbish? whatever you think is fine....... but you all wana dwell on pedofillia... great. you do that.

If someone posts bible storys and I jump on them about how sick the authors have been... where do I get? would my argument ever stop? No...


Moderators if you want to ban me as wasting time thats up to you.. I dont think I done any rule breaking...

Oh and as for the points jesus.. I barely notice these things, it doesnt matter to me if the mods take them ALL away? I dont need to go in RATS

Edit to say I just saw this thread by the mods and I will abide by this from now on ok!

plagiarism rules and posting other peoples works

[edit on 09/22/2007 by Sekhemet]

Thank you Sekhemet for providing the forum with material, much appreciated its always good to read different thoerys from all sources and make up your own opinion from all the evidence and we are always learning new things everyday. Dont let these fools bring you down, thats what they are trying to do break you.

They dont come here to learn they spend thier time debunking everything as much as possible with thier cheap attacks.

Wow.. miracles do happen You know how much 1 person can make a difference dont you. You sir are 1 in a million and I hope you get all you dream of in this backward planet and after life cause that made my day

Does he state in the book where he found out about all of these "claims"?

To be fair it does sound like a load of gibberish, I can't belive you paid 50 quid to read that!

I bought it at a time when I had NO internet! 14 long years ago come on you dont know whats in it so dont judge so quick. Basically its a collection of ancient sumerian tablets and stuff most of us on here read on the web.

Enuma Elish
Gilgamesh Epics
Atra Hasis
Tablets of Anzu
The book of Enoch
Ishtar descent into the underworld
The Tablets of Etana

Those are just the solid ones.

Mate theres tons more in it I would have to scan the index but I wont bother.

Back in those days it was worth it and guess what? it still is, cause its always better to have them in a book rather than sit and read them on the web like you lot have to do lol.

The book of Enoch was worth that alone! it all depends on how important information is to you at any given time doesnt it? And when you have an easy earned 50 quid to spend even easier enough... who cares? Im glad I got a copy cause it made me buy a damn computer and research what the guy was telling me, as he said people should do! he always said dont believe me man get the f up and go find out whats out there!

As for the moon........who really cares? the system we live in churns out our hisStory as we know it and that kept us happy long enough, now we all realise its BS and we all want the truth dont we.


I could have chosen better chapters but for some stupid reason I chose the moon.

Considering this is origins THEORY as I kept saying... what more do you want?

As for your signature, York was breaking down all those words years ago! if it wasnt for him I wouldnt have known anything about ancient cultures until I got a computer or travelled the world!! So... despite all you wana think, the guy woke me up. Is that ok with you lot?


Peace


[edit on 09/22/2007 by Sekhemet]

Originally posted by Sekhemet
I just said -- I started the thread as a MOON THEORY -- which I dont know any more than anyone else here. I told you all in my second post dont talk to me about the MAN.. just the moon theory.. ineresting? rubbish?

I scanned the pages and did a little more reading... but the verdict is "it's rubbish."

As an anthropologist, I know quite a bit about ancient gods and legends and can confirm that York has made the whole thing up. It has some vague resemblance to Sitchin's books, but it's clear that he's not really done any research. The names of the gods he associates with the moon and planets is a mixed bag and he gets some of them really wrong.

Lunar formation -- scientists know quite a bit about it, based on the composition of the moon and the elements in the solar system (you can use spectrometry to find out what somethings' made of.) Current "best explaination supported by the facts" is that at some point shortly after the solar system had settled down to this state, something nearly the size of Mars crashed into Earth, melting both of them (yes, this does happen) and causing a lot of debris to fly off. This condensed into the moon.

(details here: www.swri.org... )

So, the idea of a fully formed sphere popping out of Earth with someone riding off on it, cussing and vowing revenge, is just silly. What flew off was small pieces of both planets and what was left (which would become Earth) was a molten mass of rock slag.

I'm not sure if I can convey just how bad the bits about culture and language are. He mixes words from incompatable times ("iblis", which is Arabic and of fairly modern origin, with "Shamballah" (from ancient Tibet ... and by the way, its a mythical place and not a real one) and Tiamat (Sumerian, about 3000 BC) and Luna (Roman, about 800 BC). He invents legends (Luna, the goddess, never wanted to rule the sun and all the stars and Earth, and most systems of gods had a supreme god with no challenges to his authority).

At the time he was writing this, plutonium bombs were the most powerful things aorund. To crack off a moon-sized chunk from a large planet, you would need more than a million tons of pure plutonium.

The story of "Aum" and "Sal" shows that a) he never actually read any of the old myths and b) his knowledge of astronomy is really really really REALLY bad. The Milky Way galaxy is our own galaxy and is composed of a hundred billion suns. You don't get that from a single planet exploding. Nor do you get a nice oval spiral galaxy like ours... an explosion produces a ball of material. And there are far more than 19 galaxies out there.

Have a look at www.galaxyzoo.com... and realize that EACH of the galaxies there is the size of ours or larger AND they all have hundreds of billions of stars in them.

The Milky Way didn't explode to create the Earth. The Milky Way is our own vast galaxy of billions of stars. It hasn't exploded.

...and on, and on, and on. I can go into more detail, but it's really pretty stupid. Instead of reading my lectures, let me suggest that you go read things like Astronomy Picture of the Day (pretty pictures and lots of info) or National Geographic site or Science or even the Bad Astronomy forum.

Once you know about the stars, you'll see just how bad this book really is.

Also, take a look at some of the REAL legends (and you'll see that they don't talk about things like explosions or galaxies). Here's some good sources:

(HUGE list of links):
www.myths.com...

One that I use for research:
www.pitt.edu...

(although these are kids tales, some of them are among the oldest folktales and tales of gods handed down through oral traditions (Coyote stories, for example):
www.planetozkids.com...

[edit on 25-9-2007 by Byrd]

Excellent Byrd. Thanks for the links and the breakdown. Only a couple of points in my mind at the moment, I dont remember the tablet saying a 'fully formed' sphere come off the earth..? I did go back and read it.... but its ok Im not going to dwell on it

As for Shambhala I see where York got it from. I have Wiki'd it and read all that, York also called it Aghartha and I found that on there too and this is where I recognize part of Yorks info from, 'The Elder Race' . No doubt you seen it.

Agharta - The Elder Race