And that's six OOBE's...

And can you care to explain why I'm losing my soul???

Btw.. I tried again this afternoon and came close, but failed. I began to feel the vibrations that often occur right before coming out of the body. They were a little violent; as if I went into a shock. My physical body was'nt moving of course. But I still didn't get out.

Better luck next time...

P.S: One thing I forgot about is that to get more control over the experience and for everything to become clearer; you need to fill your etheric or astral body with energy from the physical body by visualizing it coming out of the physical body and goign through the silvercord to your astral body. I hope I remember next time.

I have had a few of these myself including one when I bleed to death

But I have never been able to do it on purpose its always just happened

Originally posted by CyberGhost
you should have checked the music in the neighborhood right away, to make sure that you weren't dreaming

Another reason why I'm sure I wasn't dreaming. In an OOBE I can just float to anywhere I want. In dreams I am never able to do that. I must make swimming moves in dreams to be able to fly in them, which is exactly what I did after the second OOBE this morning turned into a dream.

Bandit have you ever thought about getting in touch with anyone doing research on this so you can be scientifically tested.

That could prove interesting.

I don't think that's possible, because of where I live. Aruba, an island in the caribbean. Lots of people here are closedminded and superstitious, so I don't really want them to know what I'm doing before they start nailing crosses all over the wall...

And there are no investigators in the paranormal are here...

Originally posted by worldwatcher
I am still a little confused about what happened.

Has anyone ever been to the astral plane? Or can you refer me to a good description as to what the astral plane should look like?

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In my own experience & some readings, there are different levels of the astral plane.

For example the closest one to the plane you're in will be remarkable similar to it but there will be minor differences that you may or may not notice. Like your livingroom couch is a slightly different style or color. I seem to mostly wind up in this plane when I really want to be in our here-&-now plane.

The further the level you fan out in your aps/obes, the less similar it will be to the here-&-now plane.

I would suggest never practicing aps/obes when you're in a bad mood. This could take you to a lower plane than the one we all exist in. There you will experience negativity because you're attracting it via your mood.

Originally posted by Questor

In my own experience & some readings, there are different levels of the astral plane.

For example the closest one to the plane you're in will be remarkable similar to it but there will be minor differences that you may or may not notice. Like your livingroom couch is a slightly different style or color. I seem to mostly wind up in this plane when I really want to be in our here-&-now plane.

The further the level you fan out in your aps/obes, the less similar it will be to the here-&-now plane.

I would suggest never practicing aps/obes when you're in a bad mood. This could take you to a lower plane than the one we all exist in. There you will experience negativity because you're attracting it via your mood.

thanks for the descriptions Questor and the advice. I can understand the connection between having a bad mood and attracting negative vibes/entities/experience. It makes total sense.

But I also have another question about the astral plane that is closest to this "reality. Can we see what's going on elsewhere...I mean like visit someone as they are now?

btw...nothing's been happening with my last few attempts to have an Oobe, I just fall asleep or remain total aware of everything.

It's not really the Astral plane. They call it the "real time zone". You can see other people, but I guess you have to to be really aware and energized of you want to see them clearer and/or stick around at your will. My experience is that the subconscious mind will try to play tricks on you to try to get you to lose consciousness, so it can take over again.

There is still debate over this real time zone thing. Some claim it's not possible but you can get very close to that zone & only minor differences would be noted. The ones who claim to be able to travel within the same plane are either correct or they are missing the finer details that may be different.

Since I haven't felt I've been in the real time zone (this plane), I don't know myself.

So I think if you get close, the major stuff should be the same as would be in the real time zone.

worldwatcher:
in answer to your question. yes, if you can get close or to the real time zone (this plane) & have enough control at the same time.

if obe was really possible then why don't government spies use it? you can leave your body and go anywhere! and no bullete will stop you and you equire any secret information!

Why don't you ask them yourself?

I'm not interested.

In an OBE, do you really leave your body. Are you actually moving around the real world, able to see current events, and realize and remember that you saw them?

Originally posted by CyberGhost
if obe was really possible then why don't government spies use it? you can leave your body and go anywhere! and no bullete will stop you and you equire any secret information!

It could be possible, and maybe they are doing it. But there remain certain problems.
First of all, non-physical beings should be taken into consideration. With spying, there is a high probability that negative mind states are involved. Either with the one who is spying or the object that he is spying on. Spying is done because there is conflict or probable conflict involved and conflict brings negativity. Which will be even more obvious in non-physical realms. Negative beings might come to make trouble or something like that.

The subconscious mind might also interfere and make a dream (fake) scenario. So unless the spy is highly trained and has an excellent discipline of mind, he won't be always 100% accurate. Don't forget that the subscionsious is probably thousands of times more powerful than the conscious and this is more obvious in these realms (and I can say that from experience). But it also listens to the conscious mind, so the ability to generate strong intent to make it do what you want must be learned.

Furthermore, the most accurate information in the non-physical realms (as I have read) comes from the mental and higher dimension. And the reasoning, morality and judgement we use here on the physical world are invalid there, because in those planes of existence individuality is lost and you and the source become one (you regain your individuality once you return back to the lower planes). And seeing that the source is everything and is within everything, there's no point in spying on yourself. (read this thread)

Originally posted by TreyFlipAWS
In an OBE, do you really leave your body. Are you actually moving around the real world, able to see current events, and realize and remember that you saw them?

Yes, not always, yes, and and not always. You leave your body everytime you sleep. Because the subconscious is in total control of everything that happens you don't remember anything or not much.

am I trying too hard??

since my post in this thread when I told you all about the lights....I haven't been able to have an OOBE.

I am not falling asleep either...I hear the hum, i feel the vibes, but I just can't seem to project.

Any suggestions?

I have had OOBE's myself, all were spontaneous though. Only one was self induced.

I have registered for an online course here: www.mysticweb.org...

It is free and the next course starts on feb 20th, you can still sign up if you want to.

thanks for the link paperclip

i signed up

Whoa!!!

It took so long for me to get my 7th one, almost six months!! I got one this morning... I woke up at 4am, stayed awake about an hour, then I tried to get an OOBE. Got one, but I could get further than the door, I was floating (horizontally) near the door, and I couldn't see much. As if I was half blind. But that's something I good almost all of the OOBE's I've had. I always forget to try what I've read about sending energy from my physical body to my astral body via the silver cord.

When will I remember to do that while I'm out of body???

Something does not seem right about this thread. All these people sloughing out of their bodies? Now, do not get me wrong, if this is transpiring in full effect I will step back contritely. However, the tone of it seems a bit irreverent, almost glib. I simply must impugn the assertion that this many folks are leaving their bodies at will. I mean, how can the mind that is convinced it is a body leave its idenitfication by invoking conscious mind activities? If you are not convinced you are bodies, then you do not wince inside when another insults it--or you rather?


Please do not reply with a legion of evidentiary 'proofs' or boilerplate explanations insofar as I think the purported 'OBEs' are twice as imaginative as they are objectifiable phenomena.

Also, to author of the inaugurating post: Your claim of 6 OBEs is supremely boastful and uninspiring. Perhaps you should demonstrate some respect for your compatriots in the Spirit world by assisting those who are temporarily less fortunate than you in the way of material needs before you go wandering off in realms you know nothing of.

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