Originally posted by 2PacSade
Has mankind ever produced global warming on a scale that has resulted in an ice age?
2PacSade-
When the population was low and we burned small amounts of coal and wood to keep a small home warm in the winter, no.
Since the industrial revolution, development of power plants, fossil fuel powered vehicles ...
Never before has 'man' put so much toxic fumes into the atmosphere, or any animal for that matter in history. Add in the burning of forests, other
stripping of nature, and the unnatural increase in toxic producing animals ... such as cows for food and dairy ... the methane converts into CO2
rather quickly. It all adds up to quite a force us measly humans blow out our tail-pipes.
Major catastrophic events have caused major changes, yes. Are humans a major catastrophic event?
It seems to be so, we pollute on the level of a major volcano blast at regular intervals, increasing in size, and no sign of stopping.
The rest of the normal world cycles will continue, if not speed up.
I am starting to press the issue of dropping the term 'global warming' for something like global responsibility, global cleanliness ... along those
lines. Global warming is detachable, and until it is too late, or later ... it will never provable, if it does exist. This is why I counter with
something of greater impact to the minds and hearts. Cleanliness and responsibility.
You wouldn't have guests in your house if you blocked your chimney and burned coal 24 hours a day, never cleaned you bathrooms, poured chemicals
where ever. Why do we do this to the only planet we depend on for existence?
Stop polluting the air we breath for the sake of cleanliness. Clean energy and proper recycling of waste. I am sure we could find a way to use
things that are being dumped in our waters. I could go on, but you get the point.
To the o.p.
the logistics of trying to capture and store these gases are not practical. The temperatures required to cool them to a liquid or solid is extremely
low.
Do you realize how much gas is released from each car? Let's say you drive a very efficient car (40-50 mpg) ... this car is also rated as one of
the top cleanliest vehicles, we will said 3rd best rating (ULEV - ultra low emissions vehicle ...) which in cities like L.A. almost 'clean' the air
comparatively. This vehicle ... driven around 15,000 miles, still puts out 2.5-3 tons of ghg. Now, take a vehicle, like a sports car. It gets 15
mpg ... it puts out 10+ tons of ghg for the same distance. Multiply this by the number of cars/trucks/airplanes/boats/atv/chainsaws/etc. on the
planet. This doesn't include factories/powerplants/etc. Those two cars already added up to 26,000 lbs of gas a year and hauling it around produces
even more gas!
What are we going to do with trillions upon trillions of tons of stored ghg a year? What affect will we see if a leak happens and a massive amount
escapes at once? CO2 death cloud!
It would be more practical to make cars that ran on CO2 and produced O2 and carbon (clean, controlled nuclear fission) ... then we could fix the
environment by pulling the contaminants out of the air. Don't expect to see that anytime soon, though.
This is why I saw, build the technology that reduces or eliminates these emissions. Just to be clean, and have healthy air to breath. Batteries with
solar panels and hydrogen powered generators to power electric motors built into the wheels will be a big help. Alternative fuels as well. We really
need to work on using the planet's magnetism and other natural forces to our advantage as well.