So Real These Voices In My Head 2

Originally posted by hiii_98
whatever this discussion is BS. He is not even responding to anyone s comments to dont waste your breath. This is just a cry for attention and likely the kid is pulling everyones leg. I dont buy it

hiii_98 thanks for the post this isnt bs and ive tried to answer all questions given to me, just not in the quote forms. i guess im just lazy, and didn't anticipate on having so many comments. i only told the story for i thought it would be an interesting topic. if you have questions ask and i'll try to answer them, but im goin on vacation tommorrow and wont be back for 2 weeks. yea i do enjoy the attention, who wouldnt, # it i deserve the attention.it would be a hard story to make up and i know this is the coolest voices in my head topic on this whole forum. this is first hand experiences with the paranormal.above top secret stuff.outty

then can you please address even any of my prior statements as I put some time and thought into theh story you've shared with us? I'm also one of the few people who did not suggest for you to take anti crazy pill or see a psychologist.

i still want to do a few more shows on msn cause i know i wow people everytime. I'm one of the few people that didnt judge you or recommend anti crazy pills or therapy.


Can you please explain what you are talking about? Please backup your claims as we would be interested to learn more about these shows and how you wow people. What specifically do you do on the shows that is amazing?

Also both these voices and dreams are both foreign to us and unlike what others have said they are not an internal represenation of your inner self (dont worry you really are that stupid ). However now knowing this, recognize this as being a negative influence that will confuse you, entrap you, and finally consume your entire sanity. If the voice claims to be the devil what good can its intentions possibly be? Everyone has these voices in there heads, its just a matter of how loud they speak to us. For example before a business meeting one might hear a worrisome voice telling him or her they are not prepared or will fail. A woman might look in the mirror and that small voice might whisper in her ear that she is fat or no longer pretty...ect. However with the aid of drugs this voice is amplified and then given more strength by you actually listenting to it rather than ignoring it like the majority of the population. You are not special in this regard, however you are weak for allowing it to take such a grasp on your very soul. Avoid the drugs as they give it strength, and when it speaks ignore its requests, you do not need a psychologist to tell you this or more drugs prescribed. You are in a fight for your very sanity, i hope you will overcome this hurdle especially at your susceptibly young age.

[edit on 30-7-2007 by hiii_98]

told you it was a bs cry for attention.

Didn't he say he was going on vacation for 2 weeks? If he is telling the truth...that's maybe why he hasn't responded & won't for a while.

Now this is what I'm thinking about, almost all of the bizarre & "far-fetched" stories are called "BS"...however, in all the history of "story telling", I'm sure at least one is true. The question is...if only one of them can be true...which one?

That being said...we do not know. So...what do we do? Well, if the case, or story rather is as serious as this one, then we should treat it as such. Why do we do this? Well...let's look at what can happen.

A: If the story is false & is just a pathetic attempt to seek attention, by being helpful anyway no one is being harmed. Infact, nothing good or bad comes of it, by being helpful. By calling the story BS & insulting the OP...we only taunt the OP and are right in our assumption, but by only a hunch. The most that might happen is that the OP gets some laughs from us, either by us helping him or not.

B: If the story is true(ofcourse we do not know this as fact) & we provide
help, the most that can happen is that this person may actually get help along the way at some point to maybe turn the situation around. If we accuse him/her of attention seeking & call it BS, followed by some well disguised insults here and there, we may actually make his/her problem worse...resulting in us unknowingly aggravating the already bad situation, causing the OP to commit suicide, maybe lash out...or in this case, continue his affair with "Satan" or his "other self" & ruin his future.

That being said, if you have nothing positive to contribute to cases such as these...shut the f**k up!

Originally posted by BirDMan_X
yea i do enjoy the attention, who wouldnt, # it i deserve the attention.it would be a hard story to make up and i know this is the coolest voices in my head topic on this whole forum. this is first hand experiences with the paranormal.above top secret stuff.outty

Does that sound like someone who is looking for help? Not to me...

Hoax or not, you need to seek medical help.

im goin on vacation tommorrow and wont be back for 2 weeks

crap he did say he was going on vacation, my bad, sorry BirdManX.

[edit on 2-8-2007 by hiii_98]

im back! i told a couple of my friends i said i was the devil's advocate, later that night he spoke to me again.
he said im and your guardian angel
i found a new song:
Marilyn Manson-You and Me and The Devil Makes Three

and this is a taste of what are art is like, its not the best we've ever wrote but here it is, i was on pot and had a few beers when we wrote it.took about 15minutes.sorry for the bad language at times.

giant penis is down I have Erin Brawl
serving froad
you had no real answers
there teasing you
there letting you in on
a red, not a dead mother #er
of above all species
just let go
theres 20 instructions
this guys crazy scared
your the drawn
onto manais
one moment
the next moment
you put it in reverse
nice
your drunk
internet guy
look at him go
thats crazy
thats crazier then
we gotta do something about that
consider
we'll celebrate
your making that statement pussy
cause of you
published
by you
not looking
down
one word

after writting this he said you no longer serve the dark side.

Brought To You Inpart By


[edit on 14-8-2007 by BirDMan_X]

Good,
BirdManX. I'm hope you've decided to quit being a slave for the devil!!! Please ask Jesus to help you (in a humble way)and he will!!
And every evil thing will run scared!!!

I've seen people who were so medicated that they grew worse and worse!!

I could be smug and say serve you right for using drugs...but fellah...if you are for real you need help!!!

I do not go for most of this paranormal BS but some people that I know and respect have mentioned to me about the folly of drugs and the weirder realms.

Yes some suggest drags as a tool to open your mind to other realities...but to me the jury is out as to whether these are real experiences or perceptions from brain chemistry. But I am a cynic.

Whatever their view of chemical usage, they all have a common theme, while you are in an intoxicated or "drugged" state you are more susceptible to danger. You accept the irrational as a good idea. That's why people fall off buildings thinking they can fly or go home with some ugly heifer, minger that they would not soberly touch. This is why ugly, socially inept men use GHB etc to get their rocks off. The drugs do not leave the user in control.....why the hell do people think drugs were invented? To empower the user? Its control, from bacterial infections to a quick snog with the sister in law...the drug controls the situation.

My understanding is that while in a drugged or intoxicated state you are prey. Under a "normally fueled" psychic experience you can click your fingers and whoosh you are back to reality. Eat some cheese and crackers, have a cup of tea, perform whatever "grounding ritual" your belief holds to be true...and spend the next few hours and days reflecting "Strewth what the heck was that?"

Under the influence of chemicals you cannot do so. You are in a vulnerable state until its out your system. That's when demons etc like to mess with you....they know there is no escape....well so I am told. An acquaintance some years back (are you here "J"), with a background in mental health-care was telling me that a high percentage of the cases he came across were as the result of drugs / alcohol and some were actually possessions. He said you do not know yourself what is happening...even loved ones just think you have changed or are on drugs. The guy was apparently very psychic and would never do drugs or alcohol because of his vulnerability to easy access to spirit.

Personally, I think the psychic stuff is all hogwash.

Its as simple as, if you do drugs, it will mess with your mind, I do not care what science or anyone says. I have seen it happen. There is no safe dose. The crud people are manufacturing is made to no specification. If you do shrooms the content varies apparently. If you do anything for a long time, then no matter how small the task it will have effects. Find any muscle group in your body and focus on working it out a little bit over a year. You could have forearms like Popeye or abs like Bruce Lee. It has been shown that just using your brain for problem solving tasks daily, improves its function. you could argue that drugs are like steroids I suppose...but where does the dose get dodgy?

Alcohol and drugs are the scourge of western society..and if genuine the OP has serious issues.

Fellah you need help!!!

2 cents

Let me preface this by saying I respect your opinion and it holds true for some people in some instances.

I do not go for most of this paranormal BS but some people that I know and respect have mentioned to me about the folly of drugs and the weirder realms.

The issue is "drugs" is a very broad term, ranging from alcohol to Ayahuasca. While most things being thought of as "drugs" can certainly be grouped as dangerous to your health, others such as natural entheogens (mescaline, '___', Ibogaine, etc) are naturally occuring chemicals and neutransmitters persistant in the human brain. Increasing such neurotransmitters heightens the senses and opens your mind up to things it would usually brush over.

Yes some suggest drags as a tool to open your mind to other realities...but to me the jury is out as to whether these are real experiences or perceptions from brain chemistry. But I am a cynic.

Most of the substances thought to open your mind are flowing freely threw your brain chemistry right now. Hard to make a case for these things messing up your brain chemistry when they are necessary for daily thought.

why the hell do people think drugs were invented?

Drugs werent invented, they were discovered, mostly by native tribes in south and north america. Most, if not all, religions are based off of the use of holy sacrements (mostly being the use of Fly Agaric mushrooms) which boasted a psychadelic connection with God or the Godhead.

Eat some cheese and crackers, have a cup of tea, perform whatever "grounding ritual" your belief holds to be true...and spend the next few hours and days reflecting "Strewth what the heck was that?"Under the influence of chemicals you cannot do so. You are in a vulnerable state until its out your system.

Not true, shamans participating in Ayahuasca rituals in south america have no problem banishing anything they summon while intoxicated. Same with countless other tribes in countless other regions, regardless if it is still flowing through their systems.

That's when demons etc like to mess with you....they know there is no escape....well so I am told. An acquaintance some years back (are you here "J"), with a background in mental health-care was telling me that a high percentage of the cases he came across were as the result of drugs / alcohol and some were actually possessions. He said you do not know yourself what is happening...even loved ones just think you have changed or are on drugs. The guy was apparently very psychic and would never do drugs or alcohol because of his vulnerability to easy access to spirit.

I said it early in this thread, those with latent mental issues should not use psychadelics, as it can unlock such issues and bring them to the surface. It sounds like your friend saw a lot of people that shouldn't have used such tools, it is sad to see otherwise strong minds go as such.

Its as simple as, if you do drugs, it will mess with your mind, I do not care what science or anyone says. I have seen it happen.

Thats an interesting statement. So contrary to any evidence, you will stick to your guns? I feel i should direct you to this thread :Tryptamines and God It started 2 years ago and is very long, but very informative and important.

There is no safe dose. The crud people are manufacturing is made to no specification. If you do shrooms the content varies apparently.

Untrue, there are many safe doses. Cannibis for instance has an LD 50 so high, there is no physical way to smoke enough to die. Though you are correct, manufactured (synthetic) drugs are generally made to poor spiecifications, and cut down afterwards, making it even worse. As for shrooms, what varies from strain to strain is the ammount of the active agent, psilocybin. To be sure, there are different molecules within each strain of psychadelic mushroom, but it is doubtful you will ever get one that will kill you. (it should be noted that there is a mushroom that looks almost identicle to the average psilocybin mushroom, that is toxic and often fatal. thats why you never pick mushrooms unless you know exactly what you are looking for.)


I know this is off-topic, but i felt it was a necessity to dispell a little bit of mis-information. However my position still stands, the OP needs to seek medical help. ASAP Check the thread i posted, it may change your overview.

Friend believe what you will. I have not and never will be "possessed" by anything other than my ego.

You make some points. True Shaman in some cultures do use them but they are brought into using them gradually as training / initiation. Also they are not alone...the old and wise are there to see them through. They are not alone shooting up in a dingy bedsit.

Yeah, so people all over the place are doing drugs and using them as tools to communicate with spirit because they do not have the natural ability to do so. Well firstly as the experience is chemically induced how do you know it is real? Secondly, as I see it boosting your physical or mental self artificially long term is detrimental....doesn't matter what it is. Any system has a built in fair usage term...boost it and it won't last so long...take it easy and it will last longer. Simplistic I know but I am a simple person.

Anyhow just because all these wonderful people are chemically boosting their bodies with no ill effect does not mean it is safe. Anytime we put anything into our bodies there is a risk.......even food....BSE and loads of nasty bacteria for starters.

As I see it many people are getting drunk and driving cars and they don't all crash. Not everyone who smokes will die a horrible death of lung cancer. Humans are stupid, I think it was Lawrence who said something about "Risk compensation" humans like a risk anyway. Shoot up, drink loads beer, drive a car the wrong way up a one way street and shoot yourself with a revolver with one round in the chamber all in one go. You might get away with it...for a bit.

Aside from whether drug experiences are real or not..I find it distasteful and disrespectful to the other realms to chemically achieve results. We have natural abilities and we should be using them. Its like a steroid cheat, we could all take steroids and win competitions but the experience is worthless imho. Nature gave us gifts to use and we force them on, at our peril I believe. I feel that our extended lifespan is an affront to nature it was not meant to be so.

As a simile. How many steroid drug cheats end up with damaged bodies? Could it be because nature said "Son you are never gonna be the fastest man on Earth!" but drug boosting took you nearly there only for the body to fail. Likewise with the spirit realms. It was determined at an early age you have the gift or you can develop it...gradually. I genuinely believe that by forcing it on themselves the spiritual self is at risk.

May I also say it depends on what you refer to as safe. The recreational crap people are throwing into their bodies is not batch tested (not even on lab mice) so no-one knows what crud they are getting. I have known people sold all sorts of crap believing they are getting something else. Hell, even shop bought medicinals are being forged. I don't think anyone knows what they are getting.

Whoever sells the drugs whether legal medicinal or illegal thrill seeking varieties...remember that they sell them not for your benefit but to make money from you...........I trust no-one...sometimes not even myself.

I get hacked off sometimes by advocating drugs for spiritual use. I have very little paranormal ability..if any at all. A few things get me thinking every now and then. But I can drop into any brainwave state almost at the drop of hat...almost anywhere, anytime..I try not to when I drive, though. I see things, I hear things, I sense things...but I know that it is me experiencing things as real as possible...and not some fake chemical reaction.

In closing I would like to say that out of my school chums from many years ago, those who "experimented" with chemical recreation seem to have been the ones with mental illness, depression, suicide etc. My little circle of "good boys" (if only people knew:lol never experimented and whereas I suppose some of us could be considered to be square, none of us has had mental illness and are doing very nicely thanks

^^^ One of the best posts I've ever read...period!!!!

Said it exactly as I would have. I am always high...and that's by default. I do not need drugs to be wacky & experience supposedly weird things. I have that ability naturally. Drugs...of any sort are meant to control...nothing else, whether man created it from herbal extracts, or from a herbal extract that was naturally potent.

Anyone who does drugs for whatever reason...whether they think it's cool or not...has a very little...weak mind. & that's all I gotta say about that!

With all due respect you need to talk to a psychologist, because they understand your brain 1,000 times over anyone on a message board!

I think I hear voices from time to time especially in dead silence when going to bed, but I have never had a conversation, multiple personalitys, or even a full sentence. Usually I have just heard maybe one sentence that didnt reall pertain to anything I was doing so I just blow it off. Strange though dude, hope you didnt make it up.