The Greys didnt like the idea of getting filmed

interesting post evo, I live in Kansas City MO.

Why wouldn't they want to be filmed?? Just curious....don't they want people knowing about them?

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I think that he should have a discussion with sleeper and see if Milton has any knowledge of this.

I've studied this issue for many years.

The whole modus operandi of the Zetan-Greys (the most commonly reported aliens involved with kidnappings) is that they wish to be covert in their operations. One cannot conduct secret kidnappings when one is being filmed

They use electromagnetic pulse (EMP) weapons that blow circuits and make all electronic equipment useless, if only temporarily. A characteristic sign of an abduction from a vehicle is to first have the engine stall out. This can and is done with EMP devices.

That also means that all video equipment is made inoperable.

To the poster who suggested that a shotgun be used on them...

Many have tried to do exactly that. The problem is that their beams cause their victims to become paralyzed and/or unconsciousness.

You can't fire a gun if you can't move your arms or are even awake to try.

Abduction Prevention

[edit on 14-9-2007 by Paul_Richard]

Originally posted by Paul_Richard


To the poster who suggested that a shotgun be used on them...

Many have tried to do exactly that. The problem is that their beams cause their victims to become paralyzed and/or unconsciousness.

You can't fire a gun if you can't move your arms or are even awake to try.

my sister seems to think that they are scared of me for some reason. she wont tell me much, because it is mostly a feeling; just a belief she has. i think that with enough work, us humans can block the "beams" and remain conscious and fully mobile. this is just my opinion though. as far as filming them with a camera, at least you can get some evidence of something. if the camera is indeed shut off by them, you have evidence that SOMETHING happened, at least to the camera. get this enough times, and i think that says something. and if I am right about staying conscious and mobile, maybe one could then restart the video camera and get something. i think that their technology is not quite what they appear to be. Willpower can be very strong...

The Zetan-Greys are not stupid and have been doing this for a very long time. All electronic equipment (including cameras) will be rendered useless with EMP technology BEFORE they get in range of being filmed. That is why it is so hard to photograph these space-aliens.

Secondly, I don't suggest trying to block their paralysis beams. The best thing to do, if possible, is simply to get out of the way. You are safer inside a building than in a car that has uncovered windows. They can't target their bright blue laser-like paralysis beam on you - like they did to Travis Walton of Fire In The Sky fame which knocked him back and out - when you are indoors and away from uncovered windows.

However, if you are indoors and they use their intense floodlight paralysis beam - which they projected through our second-story bathroom window in the early 1990s and which illuminated the adjoining master bedroom, and which was much brighter than a police helicopter searchlight - then you have a good chance of avoiding it, as you can oftentimes see it coming and move away from direct contact. This is what happened and no one was abducted. They won't enter a home unless they know their intended is paralyzed and/or knocked out.

A common scenario is that someone makes the mistake of falling asleep right next to an open and/or uncovered window, or goes out to get a better look at a UFO seen at night. Then comes the light, then comes the paralysis, and then comes the nightmares and post-traumatic stress disorder (if not also radiation sickness) from having been abducted. Those are the lucky ones; the ones who are not dissected or kept as slaves, and/or kept for food. Zetans have also been reported to use Homo sapien glandular extracts as vitamin supplements.

We are talking about some seriously spiritually retarded humanoids. Much like the Nazi "doctors" in WWII that took the skin off of Jewish concentration camp prisoners (and others, like Poles) and used them to make lamp shades.

The Zetan-aliens are no better than that.

I recommend the Benelli M3 (Super 90) Semi-Automatic Police Assault Shotgun. After their little visitation, for months I had one loaded and ready next to my bed at night. Definitely one of the better weapons for defense that are legal in the US. As for the Brits and others who cannot have any firearms legally, better to just get out of the way and hide.

If cornered, better to take as many of them with you than to be captured.

Better to die fighting

[edit on 17-9-2007 by Paul_Richard]

Originally posted by ejsaunders
Don't know if it will help anyone but I've had to deal with sleep paralysis for ALL my known life, up until very recently.

Thats so weird, I used to have the same thing happen to me countless times in one night. I got so used to it eventually that I could actually slowly move fingertips, then fingers, then hands....

Anyway, I hated it, It drove me mad, I spoke to my folks about it and they were worried it was something demonic or whatnot. Anyway, at some point it just stopped and I forgot all about it.

I now realise, from practicing to astral project, that sleep paralysis is the stage that happens just before astral projection, now I am trying to trace my steps back in order to get them again. Funny how life is eh ?

I now realise that I probably wasnt moving my fingers or arms but that my astral body was probably moving. I knew nothing about any of this as a kid and it just scared the heck outta me most times. Mind you, its still quite scary now, I just push forward relentlessly... why not eh ?
Fear is an illogical animal instinct that we still carry with us, we still have'nt gotten completely rid of the mark of the best yet I suppose.

Just s thought - when trying to set up a camera or any other recording device DO NOT do it in the room that you wish to film . Its just common sense that when you want to abduct somebody you will firstly try to disable any and all means of that beeing recorded. But from what I observed from research is that they concentrate on the immidiet (spelling?) vicinity only . If you can try to set the camera up across the hall oft he room or best would be (rather hard to explain but best) in the window of the house that is next to the room

This way You have a big chance in getting anything on tape even if its going to be shadows or glimpses but at least its something.

I think that there are many cases whereby people have been misdiagnosed as suffering from narcolepsy when in actuality they were beam paralyzed and may or may not have also been abducted by Zetan-aliens. Those instances whereby the paralysis is accompanied by blacking out and/or memory loss point to this unfortunate latter circumstance.

Originally posted by Thill
Just s thought - when trying to set up a camera or any other recording device DO NOT do it in the room that you wish to film . Its just common sense that when you want to abduct somebody you will firstly try to disable any and all means of that beeing recorded. But from what I observed from research is that they concentrate on the immidiet (spelling?) vicinity only . If you can try to set the camera up across the hall oft he room or best would be (rather hard to explain but best) in the window of the house that is next to the room

They most likely target the entire house with their EMP before getting near it. However, as you suggest, setting up multiple cameras from various angles around the neighborhood is a clever idea.

Those cameras should be motion-detector activated AND use infrared night vision technology - as the craft are usually not only silent but optically invisible (i.e., invisible to the naked eye).

Here's another thought...

Mechanical devices that do not require electricity are not effected by EMP emissions and the first movie cameras were hand cranked and not driven by electric motors. If a modern camera could be designed and built that was mechanically driven and did not use electricity, then that would be another way of working around the EMP problem.

Someone with a good electrical and mechanical engineering background and some money for investing could make some sizable cash by designing and producing the above equipment and then marketing it to ufologists, researchers, and abductees.

if you're going to film i would suggest trying it with and without night-mode. i'm willing to bet they will see the IR light, whether it's with their own eyes or with technology. that may clue them into something being "up". i would try it first without the IR and see what you can get. maybe keep a few night lights on in the room so they don't suspect anything, but it may make it bright enough to get some video. it's possible you might be able to use night mode, cover the IR lamp with something, and just use the light from the night lights. i don't know how well that would work but it's a thought.

i have heard a guest on a paranormal radio show talk about links between shadow people and grays. i took it with a grain of salt, but some of the things i read in this thread seem to lend support to that idea.

Originally posted by an0maly33
if you're going to film i would suggest trying it with and without night-mode. i'm willing to bet they will see the IR light, whether it's with their own eyes or with technology. that may clue them into something being "up".

Good point.

Originally posted by an0maly33
i would try it first without the IR and see what you can get. maybe keep a few night lights on in the room so they don't suspect anything, but it may make it bright enough to get some video. it's possible you might be able to use night mode, cover the IR lamp with something, and just use the light from the night lights. i don't know how well that would work but it's a thought.

It's worth a try.

Originally posted by an0maly33
i have heard a guest on a paranormal radio show talk about links between shadow people and grays. i took it with a grain of salt, but some of the things i read in this thread seem to lend support to that idea.

Whenever I hear about beings that are part physical and part non-physical - as the purported shadow people - I find myself dubious of their physical existence. More likely, they are the product of projected telepathic images of spirits, probably from Group Entities.

If there are any shadow people out there who care to visit me and prove me wrong on my appraisal, feel free.

Originally posted by Paul_Richard

Whenever I hear about beings that are part physical and part non-physical - as the purported shadow people - I find myself dubious of their physical existence. More likely, they are the product of projected telepathic images of spirits, probably from Group Entities.

If there are any shadow people out there who care to visit me and prove me wrong on my appraisal, feel free.

i had one shadow person experience. it was not part physical and part non-physical. it was just like a 2D silhouette of a person with a fedora hat. it spoke one sentence to me, telepathically. "we gave you an hour" it said. the clock was then an hour earlier than it was when i had got up to go pee. it did not touch me, but the presence of (them?) made me feel sick. i say "them" because there were these things i couldnt see, but could sense, all around my room. i dont know what they are, but i do not think its related to aliens. i think they are something else.

the only connection i know of was this one from my sister. she said that the alien was hiding behind something, like a black curtain, in her hallway. she could not see it, but could sense it. she described it as a "black shadowy thing" but it was not a silhouette of anything.

it is very interesting to learn more about these zetan greys.

[edit on 9/18/2007 by evo80]

evo80,

All that you describe about your shadow person experience points to a Group Entity projecting an image in your mind, not a physical being. You can't have something that is part flesh and part spirit; there is no in-between body. The "night of the living dead" idea is pure fantasy. But for those among the flesh who don't know that, it is a great way to instill fear in them from those on the Other Side who wish to do so.

The indications that your shadow person was a Group Entity that projected a telepathic image into you are as follows:

1. The fact that the communication was done telepathically, not vocally or through any other physical means.
2. The fact that there was no physical contact.
3. The sickening presence.
4. Your intuitive feeling that it was "them" as opposed to "one."

I've been there...many times. Trust me.

That's why I know all this.

To address a related Zetan-alien issue...

Oftentimes before an abduction occurs, there is a discarnate Zetan influence. People who were Zetan in life often help their physical co-patriots from the Other Side. They do this by telepathically influencing the intended victims to be submissive to the kidnapping (to not attempt to fight or flight), and to embrace the idea of Zetan domination. This constitutes classic psychological manipulation via telepathy.

So if you experience the above energies, it is an indication that a Zetan kidnapping will be attempted in the near future. Reject that energy and they will seek other prey while also influencing the incarnate Zetans who are intuitively inclined to sway the mission in another direction - towards someone else.

I did not read every post but I did skim them, I wanted to second the posibility that this is spiritual. My reasoning is they fear her brother. Aliens would not, they want to issolate her from someone who shows no fear and cares for her.

If I am right, they need fear and the brothers support is one thing they do not want.

just pull their eyeball out..like in Kill Bill..