Iran Places Missles in Syria

Oh-ho. It's a scary scenario you want? Hm. Let me see...

Wednesday, July 4, 2007
1:00 AM Eastern Standard Time

--Syria initiates a 24-hour mobilization order. They've trained for this for more than a decade. They can do it in 12 hours, but they don't want to. Not this time.

--Syrian rocket batteries begin a furious bombardment on pre-plotted positions in Northern Israel. The salvos are meant to trigger an IDF deployment.

--Syrian missile units begin firing on Haifa. Limited GPS capabilty allows for targing of warfs and storage areas. Iranian batteries...hold fire...fir the first 60 minutes.

--Day 1, hour 6, IDF jet fighters strike targets inside Syria. Syrian MiG's are stacked and waiting. There are no dogfights. It's all shoot and scoot as the IDF pilots try to avoid being shot down behind enemy lines.

--Day 1, hour 8. U.S. navy elements sortied from Britain, Spain, and Italy start to gather in the Agean Sea. In the Black Sea, Russian naval units are preparing to get und way. French authorities report an upsurge in youth violence as pro-Muslin rioters disrupt social functions and commercial activities.

Day 1, hour 12. Syrian motorized units along the Israeli border exchange fire with IDF positions. Syrian tube artillery, which has been silent up to this point, begins to fire on West Bank targets while still targeting IDF posts. The Palestinian government reports chaos.

Should I go on?

Originally posted by Justin Oldham
The nature of this joint Syria-Iran move demonstrates that the region itself is on the verge of being overtly hostile to Israel and the United States.

Justin Oldham, you old conspiracy master you.

If you apply this way of thinkings then the same is then true of NATO deployments in Europe, and of Russian deployments in Europe.

Are we about to see a major conflict in Europe? Or are you maybe sensationalising this just a little?

Are other nations not allowed to have common defence arrangements?

I wasn't assigning blame, I was just suggesting how some events might play out. Politics is a rough game. If the powers in the Middle East see any opening, they might take it. That's all I was implying.

How is it that this is 2007 and throughout the history of Israel they are building up their weapons, putting up spy sattelites, buying nuke capable submarines, building a Navy, have an "opaque" nuclear weapons program, a chemical weapons program, a biological weapons program, a huge network of hackers for internet attacks and the moment a Arab country does something to defend itself, immediately its they want to attack Israel? LOL Thats just hilarious. The Israeli newspapers constantly speak about another war with lebanon, wars with syria, they send fighter jets over the Syrian presidents summer house to threaten him , make routine fly-overs over lebanese civilian homes blowing out their windows and damaging their property but its not the Israelis being hostile..This is just too laughable.

Im sorry some of you feel that only Israel has the right to defend themselves, but other people do too. They may be arabs but they are humans as well.

Originally posted by ThePieMaN
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Im sorry some of you feel that only Israel has the right to defend themselves, but other people do too. They may be arabs but they are humans as well.

Nobody is saying anything against "Arabs" but against Islamic extremism...

When the regime of Iran, among some others make statements about the destruction of Israel, and even the U.S. apparently some people think "we should all take these statements as a joke or someting"....

If Israel makes those incusions into those states which have attacked them in the past and have been talking about attacking Israel again, Israel is merely saying "we are here if you think of trying anything"...

Why would a fatwa be declared by high ranking clerics in Iran accepting the use of a nuclear weapon if they were not intending of using one?....

Why did the Iranian regime lied for 18 years claiming they didn't have a nuclear program, and the international community found out that not only were they working in a secret nuclear program, but it was a nuclear weapons system program...

If you want to blame someone for Israel having nukes, WMD then blame France and Russia, among others...

[edit on 29-6-2007 by Muaddib]

Ease up, folks. We've all got our opinions. The scenario I suggested is just speculation, even though it doesn't bode well for Israel. You can hate anyone you like, but let's remember that bullets don't care who you like or don't like. Once they go down range...they have only thought on their copper-jacketed minds.

Originally posted by Muaddib
Nobody is saying anything against "Arabs" but against Islamic extremism...

When the regime of Iran, among some others make statements about the destruction of Israel, and even the U.S. apparently some people think "we should all take these statements as a joke or someting"....

If Israel makes those incusions into those states which have attacked them in the past and have been talking about attacking Israel again, Israel is merely saying "we are here if you think of trying anything"...

Why would a fatwa be declared by high ranking clerics in Iran accepting the use of a nuclear weapon if they were not intending of using one?....

You are using selective quotes that were misconstrued. How did america now also become threatened with destruction? Its was The zionist government. Nothing to do with destruction of Israel.

You also are selective in fatwas too. You ignore the Fatwa issued by the Iranian cleric that said they will not use nuclear technology for weapons of mass destruction.

You always believe things you wish to hear that are convenient to your argument but when it comes to actual truh you ignore it. Its the same thing with 9/11. Osama Bin Laden said why they attacked yet you will still deny that Israel was not the reason but yet everything else he said is taken as fact. Its funny how all these supposed declarations of wanting a war come from Israel and you dont see these things printed in arab newspapers at all. If they were declaring such things it would be everywhere and not just in Israeli news media.

Originally posted by ThePieMaN

You are using selective quotes that were misconstrued. How did america now also become threatened with destruction? Its was The zionist government. Nothing to do with destruction of Israel.

Let me see if i can actually refreshen your memory...

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - October 20, 2006 - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Friday threatened any country that supports Israel, and said the United States and its allies had "imposed a group of terrorists" on the region with their support of the Jewish state.

The Iranian leader also called the U.N. Security Council "illegitimate," ahead of the planned circulation of a draft resolution on Iran next week.
Diplomats have said they would seek limited sanctions on Tehran for its refusal to suspend uranium enrichment - a key process that can produce either fuel for a nuclear reactor or the material for a warhead.

Ahmadinejad's comments came a day after Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's strongest words to date about Iranian threats. Olmert warned that Iran would have "a price to pay" if it does not back down from its nuclear ambitions - hinting broadly that Israel might be forced to take action.

Speaking to tens of thousands of supporters at a pro-Palestinian rally in the capital, Tehran, the Iranian leader addressed Israel's allies: "It is in your own interest to distance yourself from these criminals... This is an ultimatum. Don't complain tomorrow."

abclocal.go.com...

I guess that's not a threat huh?....

Originally posted by ThePieMaN
You also are selective in fatwas too. You ignore the Fatwa issued by the Iranian cleric that said they will not use nuclear technology for weapons of mass destruction.

Really? show us then. Present a reliable link where this was done.

Originally posted by ThePieMaN
You always believe things you wish to hear that are convenient to your argument but when it comes to actual truh you ignore it.

Actually, you are describing yourself to a "T" with the above comment....

Originally posted by ThePieMaN
Its the same thing with 9/11. Osama Bin Laden said why they attacked yet you will still deny that Israel was not the reason but yet everything else he said is taken as fact.

What in the world are you talking about?... Are you blaming 9/11 on Israel too?.....

Originally posted by ThePieMaN
Its funny how all these supposed declarations of wanting a war come from Israel and you dont see these things printed in arab newspapers at all. If they were declaring such things it would be everywhere and not just in Israeli news media.

You want Arab newspapers?

Here is an article about what the Iranian president said from a Kurdish newspaper.

Ahmadinejad's helpfully explains this. Speaking to
the US and Europe at the same rally, he said,
"You imposed a group of terrorists... on the
region. It is in your own interest to distance
yourself from these criminals... This is an
ultimatum. Don't complain tomorrow... Nations will
take revenge."

www.kurdishtribune.com...

A Pakistani newspaper.

Millions take part in al-Quds rallies across Iran



Israel is led by terrorists, says Ahmadinejad

TEHRAN: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Friday called Israeli leaders a “group of terrorists” and threatened any country that supports the Jewish state, as millions of Iranians took to the streets for anti-Israel protests.

“You imposed a group of terrorists ... on the region,” Ahmadinejad said, addressing the US and its allies. “It is in your own interest to distance yourself from these criminals... This is an ultimatum. Don’t complain tomorrow.” “Nations will take revenge,” he told hundreds of thousands of supporters at a pro-Palestinian rally in the capital Tehran.. Ahmadinejad also called the UN Security Council” illegitimate,” ahead of diplomats’ planned circulation of a draft resolution on Iran next week.

www.thenews.com.pk...



[edit on 29-6-2007 by Muaddib]

Ok now that you posted stuff that has nothing to do with Iran or Syria declaring that they want to go to war with Israel..what next. I still didn't see anything about our destruction in there. I saw nations will take revenge. The word revenge means

To inflict punishment in return for (injury or insult).
To seek or take vengeance for (oneself or another person); avenge.
n.
The act of taking vengeance for injuries or wrongs; retaliation.
Something done in vengeance; a retaliatory measure.
A desire for revenge; spite or vindictiveness.
An opportunity to retaliate, as by a return sports match after a defeat


Where does it say there that revenge means an unprovoked attack? IF they get attacked they said countries will seek revenge. Will they launch a Shahab 3 missile at us? LOL


If Israel attacks them and Iran defends themselves you will be the first to turn around and say they attacked Israel. Im surprised you didn't try to say that any of this has nothing to do with Israel as well. You bitch about Chavez calling Bush a devil yet here it is Israel has been harrassing Iran for over a decade via false sanctions and illegitimate UN complaints about non-existant Nukes as well as complaints about the Shahab-3 program and they should sit back and take it. Syria shouldn't arm or defend themselves either

From your own article:

Olmert warned that Iran would have "a price to pay" if it does not back down from its nuclear ambitions - hinting broadly that Israel might be forced to take action.

You sure are a funny guy. Israel has threatened in the past and present in very much the same manner Iran,Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Algeria, Egypt and yet you still sit there and exclaim they are always the victims. They aren't terrorists at all.

Oh, i see...giving an "ultimatum" with what anyone with some common sense will see as a threat is no threat at all according to "Pieman"....

Apparenlty we have someone from the Islamic nations who want to wage war against Israel and it's allies as a propagandist in here....

BTW...if you want to find "Arab news sites" reporting the Iranian president's call for Israel destruction and claiming it will be destroyed soon, there is plenty....

Iran's President says countdown for Israel destruction has started
Sunday, 3 June, 2007 @ 7:08 PM

Tehran - Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Sunday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

yalibnan.com...

Iran arab-parast president seeks destruction of Israel
Jun 5, 2007

Iran's arab-parast president said yesterday the Lebanese and the Palestinians had pressed a "countdown button" to bring an end to Israel. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who triggered outrage in the West two years ago when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map," has often referred to the destruction of the Jewish state but says Iran is not a threat.

]"With God's help, the countdown button for the destruction of the Zionist regime has been pushed by the hands of the children of Lebanon and Palestine," Ahmadinejad said in a speech.

"By allah's will, we will witness the destruction of this regime in the near future," he said. He did not elaborate.

www.iranian.ws...

And from the news agency so many trust these days more than any other...

Iranians march in anti-Israel protests

Tens of thousands of Iranians have joined anti-Israel protests in support of their president's call for the destruction of Israel.

Iranians staged multiple protests in the capital, Tehran, and other cities such as Mashad in Iran's east, holding banners carrying anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian slogans.

"Death to Israel, death to America," read many placards.

The street demonstrations are being held as part of annual al-Quds Day (Jerusalem) protests, first held in 1979 after Shia Muslim clerics took power in Iran.

english.aljazeera.net...

From Radio Free Europe.

Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad's call for Israel to be "wiped off the map" has triggered a sharp international response and widespread condemnation. Ahmadinejad made the comments yesterday at a conference in Tehran entitled "The World without Zionism." Following the remarks, Israel said it considers Iran "a clear and present danger" and Washington said the comments highlight U.S. concerns about Iran's nuclear activities. Several countries, including Great Britain, France, and Spain said they would summon their Iranian envoys to demand an explanation.

Prague, 27 October 2005 (RFE/RL) -- Iran’s President Mahmud Ahmadinejad yesterday cited comments by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder of the Islamic revolution, when he declared, "As the imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

www.rferl.org...

Enough said.

Do you understand how some Newspapers work? They get feeds from the Associated Press or from Reuters or from other news sources. They all cannot afford to have news reporters on site all over the world. The YaLibnan article is a AP news source. The majority of News papers took the same article and added their own words to most of them.

Zionism was once considered racism. At one time the entire world attempted to wipe it off the face of the map. I have no clue how it was reversed.



Also since when do people chanting death to america count as Government sentiment or even close to speaking for the government? So does Fallwells call for the assasination of Chavez count as government sentiment since it was televised on FCC airwaves?

C'mon, folks. Play nice. This is a serious issue, and we're all entitled to our opinions. Keyboards and guns should never be handled when you're angry.

On another note, what do you all think the U.S. position will be on this matter after everyone comes back from their holiday break? With as much black market activity as Syria and Iran are engaged in, I can't see how the current regimen of sanctions is doing that much to slow them down. What should the American response be?