Suicide...For a Reason?

Originally posted by DjNothing
So, based on what you've been saying, its almost as if you are trying to suggest that we are just characters in some story or something.
At least, thats one way I look at it. Other than that, Im not quite sure what youre talking about, but I do very much want to know.

Story, yes, Character's sort of. We exist. Its how we exist that isn't understood. More like actors in a play than the character being played, or somewhere inbetween.

Think of it like the Matrix. Not literally, of course, but concept-wise pretty similar. All that we think is real, is real, but NOT as we think it is. Makes sense? "The Matrix" was a virtual reality, but nevertheless a reality. So it DID exist on some level, if only virtual. Now think about the entire universe as having no actual physical existance as people might believe, but because of our perception (of being INSIDE the matrix), we can't see the reality of it.

When I said there's no space or time, think about it also kinda like this: When they insert themselves in the Matrix, they can go to any place instantly because the ENTIRE UNIVERSE of the Matrix, is located in ONE place. It's just DATA on a computer. So there is no distance, but to those inside there is. So that would (sorta) explain how space could not exist, but create the illusion that it does. The lack of existance of time I won't describe, but it's also very obvious if logically observed. Like someone else noted, physics might eliminate it entirely in a few years. Maybe.

Now, if you discovered how, teleportation is very much possible. If you could understand this reality, your brain has absolutely no limits to how many "rules" of this reality can be broken. But first, you must learn how to break them. You can instantly teleport yourself to a distant star system, anywhere. Also, you can instantly teleport yourself to ANY time, "future" or "past", if you knew how. All knowledge is available inside your head, in the deep subconscious. If you can figure out how to extract certain bits, there are no limits to your mind's potential. Everything is possible, until believed otherwise

[Edited on 9-1-2004 by lilblam]

Yes. The story theory. Another good one. Except, that would make way too many main characters, if you follow. However it is a possibility. I used to believe I had the knowledge that some people wouldn't know and that's why I get it and they don't. Though... That does sound a bit alpha, eh?

Well, also, we could be the product of someone's(things) dream. That could fit in nicely with what youre saying as well.
It is very very interesting though. Why cant you just come out and say it?

That was actually very close . Why? Why should I! If you really wanna know you'll find out! Does it bother you that I don't tell you exactly what it is? Also, you'll learn more if you can find out yourself by a little unbiased research and some effort. If I told you, not only would it be unbelievable and confusing, it would actually impede your desire to know, since it will be so crazy you will leave this info with the rest of "diluted ideas", wherever you leave those

There is a good reason why they don't teach nuclear physics in 1st grade also. You get there step by step, with your DESIRE to learn them, not telling the teacher "ok fine I know I barely know my algebra, but just tell me the damn nuclear physics thing already, it's annoying how you won't tell me anything!". The teacher won't exactly know how to tell you either.

[Edited on 9-1-2004 by lilblam]

do you wear a white suit?

Did you know that more people committ suicide not when they are the most depressed but when they are starting to feel better. it takes a lot of energy and planning to be successful in completeing the act itself. Most people do not do it on a whem they may have had thoughts for a long time, but did not have the energy, or things in order before they let go.

dude I'm just gonna come on out and say it, I think you're full of #, and I'd tell you that to your face if I ever heard you saying what your saying in public. When did you start thinking this way? after watching the Matrix for the 100th time? How in the hell do you know that anyone that learns this great mystery about whats going to happen to us dies? or most of the time dies? is there a book that people sign once they find out or something? and you keep telling people to look and they'll find the 'answer'... you want me to look for the 'answer' to what is secretly going on in this world on the damn internet?? if thats where you got your information and you believe in it without a doubt.... good god man, I got some swampland in Utah I'll sell ya too... its awesome to be open minded, not all movies are true stories though man...

Originally posted by lilblam
That was actually very close

. Why? Why should I! If you really wanna know you'll find out! Does it bother you that I don't tell you exactly what it is? Also, you'll learn more if you can find out yourself by a little unbiased research and some effort. If I told you, not only would it be unbelievable and confusing, it would actually impede your desire to know, since it will be so crazy you will leave this info with the rest of "diluted ideas", wherever you leave those

There is a good reason why they don't teach nuclear physics in 1st grade also. You get there step by step, with your DESIRE to learn them, not telling the teacher "ok fine I know I barely know my algebra, but just tell me the damn nuclear physics thing already, it's annoying how you won't tell me anything!". The teacher won't exactly know how to tell you either.

[Edited on 9-1-2004 by lilblam]

lilblam


One word buddy........ "lithium"

My wife used to talk this crap till she started taking it. How do I know she wasnt speaking the truth?????

Because she thought I was the devil

Although she was not the first person to think that

Lithium, that's great for her. And you know, maybe I am full of #. You just can never be sure anymore with crazy people like me running around claiming to know everything and then not telling anyone jack # when asked. I must really be crazy! Or am I?

Like I said, those who want to know, will. Those who don't, won't. And also there'll be some on both sides who'll really dislike people like me. Can't please'em all! Thank God I'm not trying to please anyone. Hell, people aren't even sure if there IS some "truth" out there that they just don't know. Sure there may be coverups and lies, but damn I must be smoking something really strong to be implying seemingly "incomprehensible" and "possibly fatal" hidden truth of this reality... really... smoking..

So first you decide whether there is anything out there that you haven't heard of yet (I mean something HUGE on a large scale, bigger than anything you may already know). Then you decide if you want to know it. Then you do what you decided to do, if anything. And I SO haven't seen the matrix 100 times!

So why am I telling people all this "bullsh1t" in the first place if I'm not going to actually give any details? You'd be surprised how many people's interest has been "sparked" and how many U2U's I received and who now received answers that really got their noggin rolling. Of course there's always those who just sit here and tell me to shut my mouth. But my whole point was to spark certain people's interests, and bring out yet other people's insecurities! Now, you can tell me I'm full of # to my face if you hear me say anything in public. You can even run a whole campaign to criticize anything I say and shoot it down. Hell, you can even kill me! It won't make a difference, only to you!

Do you really know if I am full of #? No. Will you make sure everyone on the planet believes I am? If you want. Again, those who want to know the truth, will listen to neither you nor me. They will hear us both, and then they will do what they will do with the information they receive from me and you. Your information may consist of "He is full of #, and if you listen to him you're just falling for a lie, because that's all he is. I've seen people like him, they pretend to know everything, but know nothing.". But then those same people will reply "But I thought he warned us not not believe a single word he said anyway?". Truth and belief don't mix!

[Edited on 11-1-2004 by lilblam]

How many people believe in a conspiracy like this? and if you do... did you develope this thought after watching the movie The Matrix or a similar movie...?

its another am i telling the truth thread isnt it.

Originally posted by MuseAndChimera
Did you know that more people committ suicide not when they are the most depressed but when they are starting to feel better. it takes a lot of energy and planning to be successful in completeing the act itself. Most people do not do it on a whem they may have had thoughts for a long time, but did not have the energy, or things in order before they let go.

quite true. when you're deeply depressed, getting out of bed is out of the question, let alone orchestrating a suicide. although I think the aim of this thread is more about "suicides of passion" rather than suicides out of depression.

one more thing: if you've never been suicidal, do consider not judging those who have died. cancer survivors don't think those who succumbed are "weak", and same for most of those who come through a suicidal episode. as with most illnesses, it's a case of "I know what it was like to be there, and it could have easily been me".

Originally posted by MorningtonCrescent

Originally posted by MuseAndChimera
Did you know that more people committ suicide not when they are the most depressed but when they are starting to feel better. it takes a lot of energy and planning to be successful in completeing the act itself. Most people do not do it on a whem they may have had thoughts for a long time, but did not have the energy, or things in order before they let go.

quite true. when you're deeply depressed, getting out of bed is out of the question, let alone orchestrating a suicide. although I think the aim of this thread is more about "suicides of passion" rather than suicides out of depression.

one more thing: if you've never been suicidal, do consider not judging those who have died. cancer survivors don't think those who succumbed are "weak", and same for most of those who come through a suicidal episode. as with most illnesses, it's a case of "I know what it was like to be there, and it could have easily been me".

good point,also people who commit suicide have often accepted death in the same way someone with a terminal illness has.

I must really be crazy! Or am I?

Naw

I just think your messing with people

And I have not told you to shut up. I am a firm believer in the freedom of speech.

[Edited on 11-1-2004 by Amuk]

Im not sure if I believe what hes saying or not. Id have to save such opinions until (if) the time comes that I understand what he's been saying.
The idea though, seems to be somewhere along the same lines of things I have thought myself before........
You know, musing on the nature of reality, anyways....theres nothing better, IMO, than new ways of looking at things.

.......but my latest opinion of what I think hes saying is that the universe is a hologram.
It has been said that this is true and that the way the brain interacts with and interprets 'reality' is similar to the way a hologram functions.

link..

Am I getting warmer?

Well.. uh.. guessing is fine and stuff as long as you don't "make up your mind" on your own guess. That could be dangerous

Besides, the stuff happening now speaks for itself, and people at this site are pretty good at covering the current news and questioning everything and everyone. Vigilance is not something many people in the world have. Instead, it seems to be passive ignorance. But such is their choice! If you play in the dirt, you'll get dirty.

Though what's happening here on Earth now is more like a spiralling quicksand. The farther we sink the more we panic, and the faster we sink. The events are now escalating and will continue to do so, as we near the center or the spiral. And then... stuff

But then again, I think anyone you asks kinda knows that by now. Or at least has a feeling. Things aren't "calm" or normal in the world right now. It's all outta whack! How fun!

Originally posted by lilblam
Well.. uh.. guessing is fine and stuff as long as you don't "make up your mind" on your own guess. That could be dangerous

Besides, the stuff happening now speaks for itself, and people at this site are pretty good at covering the current news and questioning everything and everyone. Vigilance is not something many people in the world have. Instead, it seems to be passive ignorance. But such is their choice! If you play in the dirt, you'll get dirty.

Though what's happening here on Earth now is more like a spiralling quicksand. The farther we sink the more we panic, and the faster we sink. The events are now escalating and will continue to do so, as we near the center or the spiral. And then... stuff

But then again, I think anyone you asks kinda knows that by now. Or at least has a feeling. Things aren't "calm" or normal in the world right now. It's all outta whack! How fun!

my world and mood was calm until i read this.

Mind isnt made up..........you just got me thinking, thats all.