911 WTC7: ConEdison pulled the plug 30 mins prior collapse.

a reply to: micpsi

Why a Collapse Zone was Created for WTC 7

No, they didn't. Even if some were concerned that it might, they turned out to be wrong because WTC7 did not collapse naturally. Instead, It fell at freefall speed due to CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.

Let's take a look at this video to see if you are right about WTC 7 collapsing at free fall speed.



It is clear that WTC 7 did not collapse at free fall speed. Now, provide us with the time lines where demo explosions can be heard as WTC 7 collapses and if you are unable to do so, you have lost your case.

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That is why in various videos you see fire fighters warning people to move away shortly before the building came down. They had obviously been told of its imminent demolition. They would never have warned people to move away quickly if they had merely suspected it could collapse because they would not have been able to be so certain about when it would happen. They would never have displayed such urgency.

What is wrong with that picture? If you are going commit a terrorist act by illegally blowing up a building in New York City, with the intention to kill hundreds of people if not thousands, why would you broadcast your intention to the whole world on video? Now, what was the true reason why firefighters cleared an area around WTC 7?

Why a Collapse Zone was Created for WTC 7

Hayden: Yeah. There was enough there and we were marking off. There were a lot of damaged apparatus there that were covered. We tried to get searches in those areas. By now, this is going on into the afternoon, and we were concerned about additional collapse, not only of the Marriott, because there was a good portion of the Marriott still standing, but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.

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"A little north of Vesey I said, we’ll go down, let’s see what’s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what’s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.

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WTC Building 7 appears to have suffered significant damage at some point after the WTC Towers had collapsed, according to firefighters at the scene. Firefighter Butch Brandies tells other firefighters that nobody is to go into Building 7 because of creaking and noises coming out of there. [Firehouse Magazine, 8/02]

Battalion Chief John Norman later recalls, "At the edge of the south face you could see that it is very heavily damaged." [Firehouse Magazine, 5/02]

Heavy, thick smoke rises near 7 World Trade Center. Smoke is visible from the upper floors of the 47-story building. Firefighters using transits to determine whether there was any movement in the structure were surprised to discover that is was moving. The area was evacuated and the building collapsed later in the afternoon of Sept. 11.

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The desire of the Truth Movement to take statements out of context is why the Truth Movement has made a mockery of itself over the years and why it has no credibility to this very day.

a reply to: Shar_Chi

So this is from like... 2007. But my dad works for ConEd. He knew Dick Morgan, he was a family friend of ours. Part of his official job was to head to substations to restore power, and ConEd had a substation under WTC7 that he was on his way too. My dad says that Mrs. Morgan said he may have left WTC7 and was attempting to get to where people were injured to help. They never found his remains (my dad tried his pager every night for a week after 9/11) but he was pronounced dead with everyone else reported to have been in the towers.

Sorry, you'd mentioned wanting to know in the second half of your post, so I figured a bit of information couldn't hurt.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: micpsi

Why a Collapse Zone was Created for WTC 7

No, they didn't. Even if some were concerned that it might, they turned out to be wrong because WTC7 did not collapse naturally. Instead, It fell at freefall speed due to CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.

Let's take a look at this video to see if you are right about WTC 7 collapsing at free fall speed.

It is clear that WTC 7 did not collapse at free fall speed. Now, provide us with the time lines where demo explosions can be heard as WTC 7 collapses and if you are unable to do so, you have lost your case.

I will make only one reply to your absurd conclusion ("it is clear....") as all the others are even more absurd. The clock in the video starts long before WTC starts to fall and so the time it records for the building to fall is far too large. Whoever added the clock and it made start too early was obviously intent on trying to debunk the idea that WTC fell for most of its descent at free fall speed but he failed miserably. So you presented bogus evidence that does not disprove my statement, which has been repeated over the years by many scientists and engineers who more carefully timed the descent.

a reply to: micpsi

WTC 7 was built over a Con Edison substation

They are not going to have WTC 7 collapse on top of bank of energized transformers .......

FDNY created collapse zone Mid afternoon and began clearing the area around WTC 7

Were anticipating that WTC 7 was in danger of collapse

Once realized that collapse of WTC 7 was likely moved to shut off the juice

That is way power was cut 1/3 hour before building came down .......

You do know the insurance companies tried to get out of paying for WTC7 through the court system. Yes, the angle was WTC7 was not properly designed. And yes, the insurance companies lost.

However.....

If there was a lick of evidence WTC7 was brought down by CD By an evil building owner, don't you think the insurance company lawyers and engineers would be all over the CD narrative.

Just another item the truth movement ignores. You would think a truth movement would be more transparent.

a reply to: neutronflux
If the govt was in cahoots with whatever forces would want to pull something like 9/11, do you think they would let some insurance companies lawyers blow the lid off the whole thing... I mean, idk what really happened on 9/11, and we very well may never find out the whole truth.... IMHO there was plenty of information that was left out, covered up, or just completely ignored. Does this mean its a def conspiracy...no, but there sure as hell are trying hard to make sure we dont have all the information...

a reply to: SilentBob86


So in addition to the president, president staff, the Vice President, army, navy, coast guard, demolitions teams, the bomb sniffing dogs at the WTC, WTC security, FAA, NIST, air port security, air controllers, CIA, FBI, New York morgue, NYPD, NYFD, EPA, nurses, doctors, debris removal teams, LEDO seismic data, NIST, all forced insurance companies, lawyers,and engineering firms who openly question the NIST to be part of your false conspiracy narratives while manipulating the court system and jurors. A court system that found the EPA negligence in not correctly reporting the toxicity of WTC dust which forced the government to pay out millions?

You even think about what you post?