Iran says Russia may not let U.S. use Azeri radar

Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
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The atrocities in Chechnya, poisoning from radioactive substances, killing journalists, etc. without apology or real recognition by the government shows that Russia is unconcerned with PR and would probably do something nuts if they were involved in a large war.

Fullajah - Iraq 2004 , the US dropped tons of white phosphorus (outlawed by everyone BUT the usa as a WMD and a chemical weapon) then denyed they did it , then retracted and said it was used for illumination , then retracted again and said it was used to flush out `enemy combatants` - total crap - they chem bombed the city, without remorse or care of the PR , and would do it again or use `bunker busting` nukes (wmd`s) if they want to.

Originally posted by Harlequin
Fullajah - Iraq 2004 , the US dropped tons of white phosphorus (outlawed by everyone BUT the usa as a WMD and a chemical weapon) then denyed they did it , then retracted and said it was used for illumination , then retracted again and said it was used to flush out `enemy combatants` - total crap - they chem bombed the city, without remorse or care of the PR , and would do it again or use `bunker busting` nukes (wmd`s) if they want to.

What is your point? We hear how bad the US is on this site everyday so again what is your point? Did I say the US never did anything bad or do you just disagree that Russia did those things in Chechnya?

Not to sound odd, but this proves my theory that an Asian Union is forming to defeat the west. The sticky situation is if they are against the NWO, then the enemy of our enemy is our friend, or something like that. What would you rather: toltarianistic NWO, or commy infested Asian Union. I title it the AU. Beware of the times ahead.

Note, I do not like an AU controling the world if that is what I sounded like. Screw commies and screw Nazis!

In fact the russian offer over the Radar in Azerbaijan is a test for americans to show their real plans over the missle defens in Europe . If G. Bush is so kind and want to spend some billions of dollars to protect Europe from the ''EVIL'' Iran, Putin is far more kind to offer him already built radar . A radar that nobody objects to except Bush ! Iran has no problem with it , Russia wont have to point its missles on Europe , no relationships is being hurt either with Nato and Russia, and Us want have to spent so much money on new radar. Everything is perfect for either side but as it seems it is Russia after all that is being targeted by this missle defence in Europe .And now that Bush is in a dead end all his plans over propagandise Europe on the Iranian threat and talks with Poland and Chezh are almost crashed , now he is looking a stupid way to reject the sweetes offer the Russian ever made by saying that the radar is not equivelant to the US one , (altough it is considerd to be one of the more hi-tech radars in the world ) . All the Us is trying to do now is Falsification, disinformation and imputation.





[edit on 24-6-2007 by Russian Boy]

[edit on 24-6-2007 by Russian Boy]

Originally posted by Russian Boy
In fact the russian offer over the Radar in Azerbaijan is a test for americans to show their real plans over the missle defens in Europe . If G. Bush is so kind and want to spend some billions of dollars to protect Europe from the ''EVIL'' Iran, Putin is far more kind to offer him already built radar . A radar that nobody objects to except Bush ! Iran has no problem with it , Russia wont have to point its missles on Europe , no relationships is being hurt either with Nato and Russia, and Us want have to spent so much money on new radar. Everything is perfect for either side but as it seems it is Russia after all that is being targeted by this missle defence in Europe .And now that Bush is in a dead end all his plans over propagandise Europe on the Iranian threat and talks with Poland and Chezh are almost crashed , now he is looking a stupid way to reject the sweetes offer the Russian ever made by saying that the radar is not equivelant to the US one , (altough it is considerd to be one of the more hi-tech radars in the world ) . All the Us is trying to do now is Falsification, disinformation and imputation.





[edit on 24-6-2007 by Russian Boy]

[edit on 24-6-2007 by Russian Boy]

Russia has its differences with Europe. Their more into getting along with Iran, which is the system it's protecting from. A supporter of the enemy offering defence from that same enemy makes so little sense it's laughable.

Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Russia definitely won't. For some reason, I think as China gets stronger and stronger, Russia will get closer and closer to the US and Europe. Just something I am thinking about. The West is raising a dragon with economic support and Russia is raising a dragon with military tech. The only difference is, China is on the border with Russia and has 1.3 billion people, and Western Europe and the US are thousands of miles away.

[edit on 20-6-2007 by RetinoidReceptor]

A border that will not be crossed...by the fact one country has a few nukes...and the other one has a few thousand nukes.
This "dragon" is a profitable source for Russia, and so far, they have military cooperation (note, cooperation, and not alliance). R&D for example, etc.

China can get big. Defeat countries that can erase all its major cities off the map (Russia or US). No. Lets not get paranoid.

As for Gorman...

Originally posted by Gorman91
Not to sound odd, but this proves my theory that an Asian Union is forming to defeat the west. The sticky situation is if they are against the NWO, then the enemy of our enemy is our friend, or something like that. What would you rather: toltarianistic NWO, or commy infested Asian Union. I title it the AU. Beware of the times ahead.

Asian Union? Who would be in it? China...and North Korea?. Global warming is probably a more inmediate threat to mankind, or population growth than China taking over the world...

Last...but not least...

Originally posted by UM_Gazz
But do you believe there could be an alliance forming between Iran and Russia?

How do you feel about the economic ties between Russia, and Iran?

Do you think Russia will support Iran during possible U.S. led strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities?

1) No. Its convenient to Russia to sell guns to Iran (again, not the best ones, but guns none the least). Its a customer, and that is how Russia keeps it. No joint training. No treaties. Russians dont love muslims (Chechnya) but money is money, even if your customer resembles some people you bombed in Chechnya.

2) As I stated its just a customer. Does Russia need Iran for economic survival? No. Russia likes the income, but it has larger income sources, and doubt they consider Iran non-expendable.

3) Russia will strongly condemn the strikes. Raise hell, if there was any russian techie hit even by accident by this (need a better excuse to further chill relations with Bush?) Move military forces closer to borders in the region.
Take out of Iran any Russian personnel. Make last minute sales to Iran (a few missiles maybe). That's about it, Russians will not miind watching from the sideline Iran getting blown to little pieces. Sure, they loose a customer, but nearby countries get freaked by this and go to their local russian contact to buy more guns...you know, to feel safer...